DogIsYourName 1,069 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 We need to attack downfield more. Ridley and Julio should win some of those. We are too scared to turn the ball over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
quotemokc 3,901 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Recent history says year 2 of a new OC will be great for us Falcons Fan MVP 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconDiddly18 1,225 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Our collective worries about Koetter in the offseason have come to fruition. I just don't think Koetter is the answer for our offense. Not sure we can fix it. There is no creativity or persistence in the run game. This leads to our offensive line getting their butts kicked and our offense being inconsistent. We can move the ball because of our talent but the turnovers and inconsistency I believe points to Koetter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLFalcon36 2,914 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Add more plays to his playbook besides: 4 Verts Singleback HB Dive for -1 yard WR Bubble Screen Add the following WCO concepts back SLANTS, ******* SLANTS - Julio and Ridley are two of the best Slant WRs in the game, really Sanu is too. Outside zone runs More pre-snap motion to setup mismatches, not just move a TE to the otherside to check man vs. zone Motion out RBs and use RBs in the passing game as more than just dumpoffs. He also could quit so we can hire a WCO OC, IDK why the **** you would hire a power running, passing heavy air-raid style offense with entirely WCO personnel who are GREAT at running WCO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nomak 4,730 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Short quick passes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 43,444 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 40 minutes ago, ATLFalcon36 said: He also could quit so we can hire a WCO OC, IDK why the **** you would hire a power running, passing heavy air-raid style offense with entirely WCO personnel who are GREAT at running WCO. Nearly everything about this is wrong. Koetter doesn't run an Air Raid or a power running game. He isn't a WCO coordinator, granted. He wasn't the best hire for that reason. But he could easily make it work. Coryell and WCO aren't all that different when you get down to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theDIRTYcode 2,614 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, FinalScore2.0 said: It may be more up to Quinn than Koetter. Is he still trying to run Shanny's offense or can he run his own? This is definitely not Boy Wonder's offense. It's a 4 vert with reciever option routes everywhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Long Shot 4,052 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Honestly with how bad our o-line is playing it really limits what options we have on offense. We can't run the ball, at all. That's the biggest thing. We can't run on first down, second down, or third down. We can't run draws, we can't run on the inside, and we can't run to the outside. It was easy for the Titans to dial up plays to defend us in fourth down because we really didn't have a lot of options. This o-line is the worst o-line The Falcons have had since Matt Ryan was drafted and it's really not even close. Alex "all pro" Mack, has played like garbage all season, and he's still been our best lineman. That pretty much says it all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FinalScore2.0 1,161 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, theDIRTYcode said: This is definitely not Boy Wonder's offense. It's a 4 vert with reciever option routes everywhere. And yet they kept Boy Wonder's long drawn out terminology. Are you sure there's no Shanny concept that Quinn wanted to hang on to? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
octoslash 18,230 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 It looked to me like Tennessee actually did a great job in the defensive backfield. Better than the Colts did, for sure. And of course it doesn't help when your billionaire receivers do get open, but are dropping wide open passes that hit them in unfortunate places...like their hands. JDaveG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Long Shot 4,052 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 49 minutes ago, KamiKazee27 said: Our collective worries about Koetter in the offseason have come to fruition. I just don't think Koetter is the answer for our offense. Not sure we can fix it. There is no creativity or persistence in the run game. This leads to our offensive line getting their butts kicked and our offense being inconsistent. We can move the ball because of our talent but the turnovers and inconsistency I believe points to Koetter. Let's get something better than absolute dead last type of play from our offensive line before we scrap our offensive hire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lowndesfalc 3,295 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Put it on a flatbed??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
runshoot 1,382 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Its amazing people in the offseason actually believed in DK. Then again people believed that winning the last 3 games last year somehow carried momentum in to the next season. LOL @ TAFT. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcons Fan MVP 3,933 Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 5 hours ago, FinalScore2.0 said: It may be more up to Quinn than Koetter. Is he still trying to run Shanny's offense or can he run his own? If Koetter doesn't think he can run some of Shanny offense he shouldn't have taken the job. It's not like he was desperate for a job as Minnesota would have hired him or someone else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcons Fan MVP 3,933 Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, runshoot said: Its amazing people in the offseason actually believed in DK. Then again people believed that winning the last 3 games last year somehow carried momentum in to the next season. LOL @ TAFT. Koetter was our offensive coordinator in 2012. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcons Fan MVP 3,933 Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, octoslash said: It looked to me like Tennessee actually did a great job in the defensive backfield. Better than the Colts did, for sure. And of course it doesn't help when your billionaire receivers do get open, but are dropping wide open passes that hit them in unfortunate places...like their hands. 2 hours ago, Dr Long Shot said: Honestly with how bad our o-line is playing it really limits what options we have on offense. We can't run the ball, at all. That's the biggest thing. We can't run on first down, second down, or third down. We can't run draws, we can't run on the inside, and we can't run to the outside. It was easy for the Titans to dial up plays to defend us in fourth down because we really didn't have a lot of options. This o-line is the worst o-line The Falcons have had since Matt Ryan was drafted and it's really not even close. Alex "all pro" Mack, has played like garbage all season, and he's still been our best lineman. That pretty much says it all. We need Lindstrom badly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcons Fan MVP 3,933 Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, quotemokc said: Recent history says year 2 of a new OC will be great for us Yep. Even season Ryan is a beast Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcons Fan MVP 3,933 Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, KamiKazee27 said: Our collective worries about Koetter in the offseason have come to fruition. I just don't think Koetter is the answer for our offense. Not sure we can fix it. There is no creativity or persistence in the run game. This leads to our offensive line getting their butts kicked and our offense being inconsistent. We can move the ball because of our talent but the turnovers and inconsistency I believe points to Koetter. We need our offensive line to stay healthy and a good running game. That's the problem Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sun Tzu 7 13,953 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 5 hours ago, ChiefGSU275 said: He has to evaluate his route concepts. Too often receivers are stagnant when making a catch, which allows for the defense to either blanket them or quickly converge after a catch. The concepts do not get players open, it relies too heavily on crisp routes and even then results in small windows for Ryan to get the ball into before a defender is there. And let's be real, that is not Ryan's strong suit. I do not understand how so many teams will have plays with receivers running wide open, yet here we are back in 2014 where our guys are working twice as hard for half the results. Also, the run game has to be fixed. If the defense knows we're just going to pass all day, then they can focus on pass coverage and disregard worrying about any threat of a run game. We seem to have abandoned the outside zone runs, which Freeman excelled in, and now we're back to those terribly designed inside runs where he's fortunate to squeeze through and pick up 3-4. Bottom line is this - every scheme, concept, and play call works to perfection on paper. But if you cannot get your players to execute it on the field, or if the defense is not being manipulated as the play design would suggest, then it's time to re-evaluate. Shouldn't Julio and Ridley be able to beat single coverage? I haven't been looking at film to see if Julio has been single covered but I'm thinking Ridley has. Wasn't that what they drafted him for? To be able to feast on the single coverage because of all the attention Julio is getting? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChiefGSU275 146 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: Shouldn't Julio and Ridley be able to beat single coverage? I haven't been looking at film to see if Julio has been single covered but I'm thinking Ridley has. Wasn't that what they drafted him for? To be able to feast on the single coverage because of all the attention Julio is getting? Yes they should, but they aren't. The route combos are predictable and the defenders are obviously aware of what is coming at them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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