Jesus 25,666 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Oliver isn't bad. He's still learning. Did you see Campbell out there in coverage? Jpg428gggg, ⚡Slumerican⚡, KRUNKuno and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KRUNKuno 9,323 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Oliver has played less than 10 games in the league. Let him grow a little. He has moments where he shines, more so when he’s playing press coverage than when he’s not. Quinn’s defense doesn’t utilize players the right way. Oliver was a press man corner in college yet Quinn plays him 6-8 yards off the ball. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX Falcon 478 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, Jesus said: Oliver isn't bad. He's still learning. Did you see Campbell out there in coverage? Campbell is a run stopper so running in space with TEs is not his specialty and Quinn waited too long to make that adjustment aslo! ⚡Slumerican⚡ and Flying Falcon 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KRUNKuno 9,323 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Jesus said: Oliver isn't bad. He's still learning. Did you see Campbell out there in coverage? I’ve been leading the Campbell is overrated bandwagon for a while now. ⚡Slumerican⚡ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Onlygolden1 169 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, #1ATLFALCONSFAN said: Lol one week he saves the day...the next week we're calling for him to go. Welcome to TATF. Exactly. Jesus Christ . And you can’t blame the guy when coaching is as bad as it is. I’d be curious to see what he’d do with some decent coaches. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX Falcon 478 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, KRUNKuno said: Oliver has played less than 10 games in the league. Let him grow a little. He has moments where he shines, more so when he’s playing press coverage than when he’s not. Quinn’s defense doesn’t utilize players the right way. Oliver was a press man corner in college yet Quinn plays him 6-8 yards off the ball. Oliver did play a lot of press coverage today. In each of those TDs scored on him was in man to man! Problem is he is not as good at it as they thought! ⚡Slumerican⚡ and Flying Falcon 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NWFALCON 4,031 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, TX Falcon said: Oliver did play a lot of press coverage today. In each of those TDs scored on him was in man to man! Problem is he is not as good at it as they thought! Or he was going against a really good receiver. I’m surprised trufant didn’t follow Hilton. TX Falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX Falcon 478 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, NWFALCON said: Or he was going against a really good receiver. I’m surprised trufant didn’t follow Hilton. Exactly! Why did they not think of that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chi City Falcon 355 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Oliver would look a lot better if he didnt have to stay on the field longer than he had to because of all the ******** penalties we commit NeonDeion 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,926 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Kazee, Campbell, Vic all out there looking bad. Not just Oliver. Issue is coaching. Players out there worried about defending run on the edge and blowing coverage or closing to tackle the checkdown. Missed Neal in the 2nd half...and Grady on that final drive... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Precyse 1,710 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Hes better than Kazee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Precyse 1,710 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 hours ago, ⚡Slumerican⚡ said: More of a reason he shouldn't be out there.. Its like allowing a new pilot to fly the space shuttle.. Dosnt make sense Mike Smith all over again ⚡Slumerican⚡ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
⚡Slumerican⚡ 5,782 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 54 minutes ago, KRUNKuno said: I’ve been leading the Campbell is overrated bandwagon for a while now. Im with ya on that, Campbell is decent against the run.. Is always a step behind in coverage Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Precyse 1,710 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, TX Falcon said: Not Kazee! He can in and did go work at safety last year. I would not move him. We allowed like 38 passing tds last year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 25,749 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 48 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: Kazee, Campbell, Vic all out there looking bad. Not just Oliver. Issue is coaching. Players out there worried about defending run on the edge and blowing coverage or closing to tackle the checkdown. Missed Neal in the 2nd half...and Grady on that final drive... I thought Beasley had a pretty **** good game Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Onlygolden1 169 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 every time I saw Kemal Ishmael in he looked horrid. We just don’t seem to have DB depth. And he is looking larger and slower every season. Not really sure why he’s still around. I liked him at times but what is his role? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SirCzah 2,459 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 meh, he is getting targeted. Had the same problems with Alford. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Falcon 9,264 Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 hours ago, NWFALCON said: Or he was going against a really good receiver. I’m surprised trufant didn’t follow Hilton. A hurt WR who had a hurt thigh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Falcon 9,264 Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Chi City Falcon said: Oliver would look a lot better if he didnt have to stay on the field longer than he had to because of all the ******** penalties we commit He had his fair share of penalties. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ltstorm2 4,829 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Onlygolden1 said: every time I saw Kemal Ishmael in he looked horrid. We just don’t seem to have DB depth. And he is looking larger and slower every season. Not really sure why he’s still around. I liked him at times but what is his role? He gained weight to play LB, had him switch back to Safety after an early Safety injury. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Falcon 9,264 Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 Oliver sucks. Never should have let Alford go until you knew what you had in Oliver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atljbo 21,355 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 What frustrate me is we knew he was a bump and run corner.. Why are we sitting him back playing off and playing zone too.. that wasn't his thing coming out of college Man this shot frustrating... The team has to much talent to be where we are Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins 2,028 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I think Oliver was maybe the only bright spot for the defense today. he screwed up a few times, but he played solid mostly and he showed a few really promising flashes of talent. Overall the d was soft and pathetic. The o also has no excuse for scuffling this much. Factz and jidady 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jidady 9,452 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 The tape never lies... From PFF: "Isaiah Oliver continues to improve. He enjoyed another memorable game against Indianapolis. Oliver made an impressive pass deflection against one red-zone throw, denying TY Hilton a likely touchdown. He also had excellent coverage on a couple of other plays, forcing Brissett to try to time back-shoulder throws that fell incomplete. Atlanta has excellent depth in the secondary, and they appear to have found a cornerstone opposite Desmond Trufant in the Colorado product. " TX Falcon, DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins, NeonDeion and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,397 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 8 hours ago, MilleniumFalcon said: You didn't see Oliver do anything his rookie season, what reason did you believe that he could be a servicable starter this year? In one of the forum threads in the offseason asking which positions are you most concerned about, I said it was DB and especially Oliver's position. Now teams will just pick on him all year because he's going to hold or do a pass interference. This sounds awfully familiar to a corner who used to play on this team opposite Trufant.... MilleniumFalcon and falconsd56 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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