FalconsIn2012 35,691 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 11 things we know about the 2019 Falcons after 2 weeks Matt Ryan has been off The Eagles and Vikings admittedly both have tough defenses, but Ryan has already thrown 5 interceptions.… more Devonta Freeman outshined by Ito Smith Freeman has only averaged 2.2 yards per carry and hasn't scored yet. Meanwhile, Ito Smith is… more Julio Jones is still Julio Jones No. 11 has scored 3 touchdowns already, including the game-winner against the Eagles. He's also passed… more Calvin Ridley keeps rising Ridley has also been productive – he's scored twice so far and Matt Ryan missed him… more The first-rounders are injured Chris Lindstrom is on injured reserve with a broken foot. Kaleb McGary missed most of the… more Hope on the right side Jamon Brown and Ty Sambrailo performed far better than expected against Philadelphia. The Falcons need them… more Dirk Koetter has to do better Mike Zimmer and Mike Schwartz are rough matchups. Still, Koetter has to call better plays. Atlanta is averaging just 18 points per game and ranks No. 30 in offensive DVOA. less Grady Jarrett is on a mission Jarrett has already collected two sacks. Pro Football Focus has him ranked No. 1 among interior defensive linemen. less Desmond Trufant finally broke the streak Dropping picks has long been a problem for Trufant. He didn't have an INT since Week… more No sacks for Takk Mckinley Takk got a ton of pressures on Carson Wentz, but he still hasn't collected a sack.… more Dan Quinn's defense looks respectable Aside from getting run over by Dalvin Cook, Atlanta's defense has been respectable. The Falcons have… more duckhoa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,691 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 Two Shockers, one good, one bad. Grady is the top graded DT in football. Making me look stupid. And DK’s Offense is the 30th ranked DVOA DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vel 32,056 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Jeez I hate lazy comments like: 2 minutes ago, FalconsIn2020 said: Dirk Koetter has to do better Mike Zimmer and Mike Schwartz are rough matchups. Still, Koetter has to call better plays. Atlanta is averaging just 18 points per game and ranks No. 30 in offensive DVOA. Until "Throw an INT" is in the playbook, I'm not onboard with these kinds of comments. Koetter has been fine. Could have hung 30+ on the Eagles if not for Matt throwing another red zone INT. capologist, dardan, Nino11 and 17 others 20 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus 25,667 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, FalconsIn2020 said: Two Shockers, one good, one bad. Grady is the top graded DT in football. Making me look stupid. And DK’s Offense is the 30th ranked DVOA 6 turnovers in 2 games will kill your offensive rankings. End that noise and this team will be rolling. Drew4719, Peteshweddy, NeonDeion and 7 others 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,691 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, vel said: Jeez I hate lazy comments like: Until "Throw an INT" is in the playbook, I'm not onboard with these kinds of comments. Koetter has been fine. Could have hung 30+ on the Eagles if not for Matt throwing another red zone INT. I’m not concerned, but I also have not been very impressed so far. Run blocking has been atrocious. DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,691 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jesus said: 6 turnovers in 2 games will kill your offensive rankings. End that noise and this team will be rolling. Ryan’s INT’s are the outlier. And I’m not concerned about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus 25,667 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Just now, FalconsIn2020 said: Ryan’s INT’s are the outlier. And I’m not concerned about it. Right. We've seen this before. Not at this pace but he will be fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vel 32,056 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, FalconsIn2020 said: I’m not concerned, but I also have not been very impressed so far. Run blocking has been atrocious. That's not on Dirk though. That's where I land. For instance, that outside run with Freeman where Jake was at LG, it was there, but Hooper got blown up. Stuff like that isn't on Dirk. They were moving the ball versus MIN. Two red zone turnovers means you had to get to the red zone. Same with the Eagles. Matt throws a stupid pick in the endzone and Bryant misses a FG. That's 10 points. Even on the first TD to Julio, it was a called run and Ito would have scored, but Matt pulled it and threw to Julio. That's not on Dirk. He gives him the option to RPO it, but his play calling has not been an issue. Drew4719, Ovie_Lover, red falcon and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
high impact 2,367 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Well let me think...oh yeah the frigging O-line is still trying to get their feet under them. And running a bit different style of offense. Hah could not be any reason the Ryan has had to rush his throws and the running game has not moved forward. Plus as stated above they were learning against teams other than the Miami Dolphins. As hard as I am on this team even I knew they were not going to jump out of the gate in set the world on fire. I also thought they would lose both the past two games. So the way I look at it the Falcons are a bit ahead of the curve. So I am ok with things for now. duckhoa and papachaz 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,583 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 24 minutes ago, vel said: Jeez I hate lazy comments like: Until "Throw an INT" is in the playbook, I'm not onboard with these kinds of comments. Koetter has been fine. Could have hung 30+ on the Eagles if not for Matt throwing another red zone INT. This Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,583 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, vel said: That's not on Dirk though. That's where I land. For instance, that outside run with Freeman where Jake was at LG, it was there, but Hooper got blown up. Stuff like that isn't on Dirk. They were moving the ball versus MIN. Two red zone turnovers means you had to get to the red zone. Same with the Eagles. Matt throws a stupid pick in the endzone and Bryant misses a FG. That's 10 points. Even on the first TD to Julio, it was a called run and Ito would have scored, but Matt pulled it and threw to Julio. That's not on Dirk. He gives him the option to RPO it, but his play calling has not been an issue. ******* this, get em Quote Link to post Share on other sites
capologist 13,660 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 24 minutes ago, vel said: Jeez I hate lazy comments like: Until "Throw an INT" is in the playbook, I'm not onboard with these kinds of comments. Koetter has been fine. Could have hung 30+ on the Eagles if not for Matt throwing another red zone INT. Is this where we hit them with the Jim Mora "You think you know but you don't know" video? papachaz and vel 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconidae 21,325 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, FalconsIn2020 said: I’m not concerned, but I also have not been very impressed so far. Run blocking has been atrocious. Oline has 3 new pieces, and a couple of them are rooks. Give them some time. Ovie_Lover, papachaz and Drew4719 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PokerSteve 27,227 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 33 minutes ago, vel said: Jeez I hate lazy comments like: Until "Throw an INT" is in the playbook, I'm not onboard with these kinds of comments. Koetter has been fine. Could have hung 30+ on the Eagles if not for Matt throwing another red zone INT. Exactly. vel and papachaz 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,691 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: ******* this, get em LOL....I didn’t know this was pro wrestling. And he is getting the author of the article, not me vel 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,583 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, FalconsIn2020 said: LOL....I didn’t know this was pro wrestling. And he is getting the author of the article, not me You're the one who said you arent impressed with Koetter and his run game blocking being bad. vel 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vel 32,056 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 36 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: ******* this, get em Lol I don't have any angst with 2020. He's right to not be impressed by Dirk if you look at the raw numbers. But when you factor in the player error, you can't fully judge Dirk yet. papachaz, DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins, Ergo Proxy and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,583 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 minute ago, vel said: Lol I don't have any angst with 2020. He's right to not be impressed by Dirk if you look at the raw numbers. But when you factor in the player error, you can't fully judge Dirk yet. He's been hating on DK all offseason. Gets old man. You can't blame the run game on him when the players aren't executing for the run game. Same as Tampa. I don't hear anyone giving Quinn **** for getting run on by the Vikings. I just see him making a threat to praise Quinn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vel 32,056 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: He's been hating on DK all offseason. Gets old man. You can't blame the run game on him when the players aren't executing for the run game. Same as Tampa. I don't hear anyone giving Quinn **** for getting run on by the Vikings. I just see him making a threat to praise Quinn. Eh 2020 picks his side and waits for enough evidence to shift him one way or another. I don't blame him. A lot of fans are stuck on Dirk from his first stint, but ignore who he had to work with. If we had an OL of Lamar Holmes, Justin Blalock, Joe Hawley, Peter Konz, and Jeremy Trueblood and Dirk was ripping off 5 and 7 step pass plays, Ryan would be retired like Andrew Luck. They ignore 2012. It's selective memory to save themselves from heart break. Ovie_Lover, Rhodaric, DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thamill 1,299 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 hours ago, vel said: Jeez I hate lazy comments like: Until "Throw an INT" is in the playbook, I'm not onboard with these kinds of comments. Koetter has been fine. Could have hung 30+ on the Eagles if not for Matt throwing another red zone INT. I thought when you said "lazy" comments you were referring to the article calling "Jim" Schwartz, "Mike" Schwartz. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,691 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Ovie_Lover said: You're the one who said you arent impressed with Koetter and his run game blocking being bad. I haven’t been. If you look at most plays in All 22, people are open on most plays. Part of being a great OC is understanding your personnel and calling plays they can successfully execute. And I just don’t see us reaching our goals passing the ball 45 times a game. Say what you want, but Koetter needs to be more committed to running the football. Blocking has been bad, but you can’t completely abandon the run game. It’s what happened in TB and thru two weeks it is what’s happening here. The run-pass ratio will be quite telling this week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,691 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Ovie_Lover said: He's been hating on DK all offseason. Gets old man. You can't blame the run game on him when the players aren't executing for the run game. Same as Tampa. I don't hear anyone giving Quinn **** for getting run on by the Vikings. I just see him making a threat to praise Quinn. I often wonder if you just make stuff up as you go. I’ve said I have reservations about his commitment to run the football, but I also said repeatedly he should get more out of this playbook than Sark. This is a thread I started about DK. Sure looks like I hate him https://boards.atlantafalcons.com/topic/4071149-disguise-sequencing-the-koetter-effect/#comment-11459530 On 7/11/2019 at 0:00 PM, FalconsIn2020 said: There are two things Koetter should provide to make our offense hum again: 1st - Play Sequencing: Pretty simple, yet it’s something we have lacked. Shannahan was the master. Using plays in the first half to set up plays later in the game. It’s why Shanny doesn’t allow for many QB audibles. Play sequencing was essential to his overall gameplan. 2nd - Disguise: If Koetter can disguise and set up our plays with clever motion pre-snap or unique formations, we will be golden. It is something Sark struggled with. Here are two great examples of what we should all hope to see in 2019: Shanny was a master of overloading zones to confuse the linebackers and in the process creating legal/natural picks which ultimately led to a wide open touchdown. Here the route out of the backfield and the vertical concept result in a walk in TD. On this the FB (Luke Stocker would be perfect) motions to a TE position, thus confusing the defense and leading to a wide open score. Notice how the FB and the RB out of the backfield converge on the same defender, forcing the LB to make a choice. It’s a brilliant design Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,691 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 @Ovie_Lover Here is the thread where I express concerns about his commitment to the run. Clearly not hating in either thread. Baseless as usual https://boards.atlantafalcons.com/topic/4071170-the-koetter-identity/#comment-11461362 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,583 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, FalconsIn2020 said: I haven’t been. If you look at most plays in All 22, people are open on most plays. Part of being a great OC is understanding your personnel and calling plays they can successfully execute. And I just don’t see us reaching our goals passing the ball 45 times a game. Say what you want, but Koetter needs to be more committed to running the football. Blocking has been bad, but you can’t completely abandon the run game. It’s what happened in TB and thru two weeks it is what’s happening here. The run-pass ratio will be quite telling this week. You realize Ryan threw for every RPO we called right? He WANTED to throw. You also gotta know the opponent. Eagles stuff the run but can't stop the pass at all. You don't run to waste downs and get behind the sticks against the eagles. That's how they stop the pass. @vel has even said so man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,583 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Lol those arent the only threads you made about him or the only comments. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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