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Get Ready for more Growing Pains against Eagles

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1 hour ago, gazoo said:

I will be pleasantly surprised if our offense takes off game 2 this year! We are stacked and it’s going to happen, I figured it would start looking much better game 3 though, and be lethal by mid season.

our defense, that better get better this week, that’s the side of the ball I expect a massive leap in production

Really anxious to see how much progress this D makes Sunday night. If they can gel and start stacking up some 3-and-outs, the offense will get into a rhythm and start putting up points. Tall order, but doable.

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16 minutes ago, mattyicefalcon said:

How are our secondaries better over theirs?

Ertz, Jeffrey, Jackson = 3 players can burn them at will.

If theres no pressure from defensive front....its gonna be a loooong night.

Braves just scored on Scherzer.

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21 minutes ago, FalconsIn2020 said:

When has Ryan picked apart the Eagles?  Even in 2016 he struggled against them outside of one bomb to Gabriel.

I expect another average day from Ryan.  26-40, 240 yards, 1 TD 1 INT.  This game will come down to our ability to run the football and control their 2-headed monster at RB

The last time they played in Atlanta I remember Julio carved them up pretty good. We scored 26. Had trouble getting in the end zone but Matt looked really good.

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39 minutes ago, Beast-N-Da-Sheetz said:

For once can we please be the loudest fans in our OWN D*MN DOME!!!

I'm hoping this is the case. I live in NJ & they're already talking about Eagles fans arriving in Atlanta for the game. I just hope they don't take over the stadium like they've been known to do. 

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1 hour ago, Falcons Fan MVP said:

Matt Ryan should be able to pick apart that secondary.

I would think we will have to have a decent running game for Ryan to be able to have the time to pick apart the secondary. If our OL can get their ring down wit the running backs, just god enough,  I agree with your assessment.  If they get stuffed and get in too many passing situations it will be much harder. 

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1 hour ago, mattyicefalcon said:

When was last time we feared any opposition?

We will be competitive but, installing fear in opponents thats not our DNA.

 

I’m 2016, our offense absolutely did, but I do understand your point. I think this year we have potential to be that in either side of the ball after rebuilding our lines, but time will tell

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1 hour ago, PokerSteve said:

Really anxious to see how much progress this D makes Sunday night. If they can gel and start stacking up some 3-and-outs, the offense will get into a rhythm and start putting up points. Tall order, but doable.

We got a sneak preview last preseason game of our run defense potential. Even in last weeks game interior DL played well. We will absolutely tighten up and repair that edge issue. In any event I expect our defense to play much better Sunday.  Rico, Neal, and Jones are all still shaking a little rust off, but it should get better. After a few games  it should be awesome.

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55 minutes ago, gazoo said:

We got a sneak preview last preseason game of our run defense potential. Even in last weeks game interior DL played well. We will absolutely tighten up and repair that edge issue. In any event I expect our defense to play much better Sunday.  Rico, Neal, and Jones are all still shaking a little rust off, but it should get better. After a few games  it should be awesome.

I almost plucked both my eyeballs out with a corkscrew last Sunday...but I want to believe the way you do.  The Birds are better than what they showed.  

Will they BE better though...? 

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1 minute ago, octoslash said:

I almost plucked both my eyeballs out with a corkscrew last Sunday...but I want to believe the way you do.  The Birds are better than what they showed.  

Will they BE better though...? 

I say absolutely yes, but if we have more growing pains Sunday night, which I predict will be the case, many aren’t going to believe it and this message board will be intolerable for the week.

I know how much talent we have and what a great coaching staff we have, it just doesn’t always come together immediately and wheel a team is having growing pains the situation can look far worse than it really is.

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2 minutes ago, ⚡Slumerican⚡ said:

Imo we need to invole Hooper even more into the game plan. We have a probowl TE available and for some reason we dont feature him like we should 

We started using him more late last week and he stepped up to the challenge well. 

He xan really help us against philly for sure

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Ok...first of all I saw a lot of I’s from the OP lol. However, I do agree with 98% of what he said. But please OP.....don’t wait so long (go ahead and post on Monday from now on) and post ASAP! But you on it dog!!!! You really think we win?? Demit I can’t decide to bet the +- 2 . Sad but true - I’d lay the deuce...my bad

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Considering our opponent, to win this game after how we lost the last game would be huge for the Falcons.

Let's just see what this 2019 Falcons team is really made of....

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Most of what Gazoo posted makes sense.  I don't think any logical person expected our OL to perform well.  There have been too many changes and rookies need their time.

Our special teams have been pretty bad for seasons.  No surprise there.

What really threw me off was the dismal defensive performance.  Dan Quinn should have had the defense better prepared.  Quinn sounded like he was really pissed during the presser.  I don't blame him.....he should be very angry at himself.  I don't know what he should have done better during the pre-season.  All I know is that he unit was not prepared.

Let's see how things shake out Sunday.  We can expect Matt, once again, to be hurried.  The question is whether Koetter will continue to call slowly-developing plays.  If he does, we will see a lot of 3-and-outs.  

In my opinion, our offensive rush should be called primarily between the tackles.  Both Freeman and Ito are quite capable of bouncing their runs to the periphery.  Let them improvise.....it comes naturally to both runners. 

I don't want to see a lot of pitch plays and screens.  Those devices don't work well when your blockers are not getting out to their secondary targets.  And for goodness sakes, get the ball out of Matt's hands quickly!  The poor guy has no meaningful mobility......he will get crushed if he has to sit in a pocket full of holes again.    

     

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9 hours ago, octoslash said:

I almost plucked both my eyeballs out with a corkscrew last Sunday...but I want to believe the way you do.  The Birds are better than what they showed.  

Will they BE better though...? 

You wanted to pluck your eyeballs out because the team is better than that. That's why we are all frustrated from that game. That's exactly what you said. 

Too much talent to do that again. If they do, that's coaching and DQ will be on a very hot seat. That's why I'm still confident. The same talent we had just one week ago that had us confident we could sneak a win out of there. It hasn't gone anywhere. 

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13 hours ago, Is This What You Want? said:

And another thing.  These coaches and managers are paid millions of dollars to have a “professional” team ready to play for 16 games or more.  If I walked into a meeting at work with clients and bombed it, what do you think my boss would say if I said “don’t worry, a few more bombed meetings and hopefully I will get it figured out”???

there are millions of people getting paid a tiny sliver of these guys who don’t have more than one chance to screw up.

dont get me wrong, I don’t mind losing a game or many games.  What I do mind is being unprepared, sloppy, and overall unprofessional.  These are pro players, a pro team, and pro coaches.  The least they can do is appear prepared to at least not get the doors blown off their azzes.

okay I’m done, but we better look like a different team Sunday.  I honestly don’t care if we win or lose, but I care a **** OF A LOT if we look SOFT.

Sports are not like your 9-5 job.

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15 hours ago, Jesus said:

Gotta support the team on Sunday night. That crazy horn blowing chanting stuff at Minnesota was nuts. I was a little intimidated by it. A big loud full house goes a long way. 

A big loud full house in their seats won't happen. I support the Falcons but the Eagles will most likely give us a WWE smackdown. :shrug:

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12 minutes ago, etherdome said:

Most of what Gazoo posted makes sense.  I don't think any logical person expected our OL to perform well.  There have been too many changes and rookies need their time.

Our special teams have been pretty bad for seasons.  No surprise there.

What really threw me off was the dismal defensive performance.  Dan Quinn should have had the defense better prepared.  Quinn sounded like he was really pissed during the presser.  I don't blame him.....he should be very angry at himself.  I don't know what he should have done better during the pre-season.  All I know is that he unit was not prepared.

Let's see how things shake out Sunday.  We can expect Matt, once again, to be hurried.  The question is whether Koetter will continue to call slowly-developing plays.  If he does, we will see a lot of 3-and-outs.  

In my opinion, our offensive rush should be called primarily between the tackles.  Both Freeman and Ito are quite capable of bouncing their runs to the periphery.  Let them improvise.....it comes naturally to both runners. 

I don't want to see a lot of pitch plays and screens.  Those devices don't work well when your blockers are not getting out to their secondary targets.  And for goodness sakes, get the ball out of Matt's hands quickly!  The poor guy has no meaningful mobility......he will get crushed if he has to sit in a pocket full of holes again.    

     

The problem on the offense vs the Vikings was they were just in the right coverages at the right times. One of those plays, the Falcons went max protect with three routes out. That works when you are getting pressured, but when they only send a four man rush and drop seven to cover those three routes, they'll look long developing. Add in that they couldn't even block a four man rush with max protect and as an OC it gets tough to call any kind of plays. 

I know he's been ripping into that defense though. That was very disappointing. Just basic football. Wrong gap alignments. No edge setting. Just want to. 

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26 minutes ago, vel said:

The problem on the offense vs the Vikings was they were just in the right coverages at the right times. One of those plays, the Falcons went max protect with three routes out. That works when you are getting pressured, but when they only send a four man rush and drop seven to cover those three routes, they'll look long developing. Add in that they couldn't even block a four man rush with max protect and as an OC it gets tough to call any kind of plays. 

I know he's been ripping into that defense though. That was very disappointing. Just basic football. Wrong gap alignments. No edge setting. Just want to. 

looks like the saw some things for them to call those coverages and fronts, us on the other hand just kinda let them run all over us

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16 hours ago, gazoo said:

I refrained from posting this on Monday because I was afraid some fans were on suicide watch, but get ready for some more growing pains on Sunday. 

I was telling everyone that first game was going to be ugly, sloppy on offense etc the week prior, although even I didn't predict just how ugly.  I predicted a 2-2 start which I still think will be the case. I expected the defense to play better last week, but in retrospect I can see how that happened without effective communication. The 3 turnovers on offense and block punt were all attributable to growing pains IMO. So many changes this offseason to offense, defenses and STs, so many new starters or ones coming back from IR the previous year, so few snaps with our starters this preseason.....it was predictable we would struggle against a top veteran defense in an exceptionally loud dome.

If players have a lot of snaps next to each other, they know better how to communicate with deafening crowd noise in background, they have established chemistry  and when the wheels start falling off on a drive they know they can trust each other to turn it around.  Last week, I can see easily how it got so out of hand. 

The Saints lost to the Bucs opening game last year, allowing Bucs to score 48 points, in the Saint back yard. It happens.

It took Shanny a full year to get the offense firing on all cylinders to where the next year we were 7th in NFL history in points.  Why not give Keotter a few games to do the same thi9ng it took Shanny 16 games to do?  I recall fans wanting to fire Shanny his first season.

I expect more growing pains on offense against the Eagles defense. We will be playing at home which will help a lot, but the OL needs more time to gel before its going to play at the level we want it to. It just is what it is. 3 new starters and injuries causing all kinds of interruptions to that. I do expect our defense to STEP UP Sunday though.  The defense doesn't have the latitude the offense has in my view.

This message board is probably going to be intolerable again next week with  over the top sky is falling panic and speculation of TDs, DQs Keotter's firings, but I fully expect our team to be hitting on all cylinders by midseason, prior to us  getting into our division stretch and I also believe we will be a feared team by that point, and have a strong playoff run.

Here's to a win Sunday, but its going to be really tough to pull one out given the circumstances. 

 

5 years into Quinn's regime they are supposed to be grown by now.

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