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Veteran Cuts, As I See It


egoprime II
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I believe the Falcons have enough veteran talent at the starting positions, that some of our 'depth' veterans may well be gone soon.  Among them:

S/LB Khemal Ishmael.  With Neasman and Cooper, I don't see a spot for him.

LB Bruce Carter.  Grace's play, plus Riley's slowly improving play and special teams value, makes Carter expendable.

DL Adrian Clayborn.  I made a post concerning him...

WR Justin Hardy.  Not shifty or quick enough for the slot, not enough speed to be a deep threat, or stout enough to be a possession receiver....this pretty much sums up Hardy, who was unsigned deep into free agency before the Falcons brought him in.   Has value as a red zone specialist and good hands as a KR.  Is that enough to keep Hardy over Blake, Zaccheaus and/or Gray?

TE Logan Paulsen.  Hard one, for me anyway.  Extremely underrated, Paulsen is a good TE who is unfortunately the fourth option on this roster.  He would probably return to Washington where he played several seasons.

RB Brian Hill.  Another hard one.  Yes Hill has been very productive.....he did not start his career that way.  Ollison on the other hand, is showing flashes of being productive, now....right now.  Then there is this:  Hill was drafted before Koetter and Mularkey came along, while Ollison was selected by our current coaching staff even though Hill was on our roster..  I would really like to see us keep four RBs, but Barner looks to be our fourth keeper.

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23 minutes ago, MAD597 said:

We keep Clay, he's a proven vet capable of getting pressure on the QB which is an area we almost always are lacking in.

The rest I agree with especially Hill, he is the most average one dimensional RB I've ever seen and has no roster spot here.

I agree on Hill as the odd man out but your full of it w that last statement

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3 hours ago, egoprime II said:

I believe the Falcons have enough veteran talent at the starting positions, that some of our 'depth' veterans may well be gone soon.  Among them:

S/LB Khemal Ishmael.  With Neasman and Cooper, I don't see a spot for him.

LB Bruce Carter.  Grace's play, plus Riley's slowly improving play and special teams value, makes Carter expendable.

DL Adrian Clayborn.  I made a post concerning him...

WR Justin Hardy.  Not shifty or quick enough for the slot, not enough speed to be a deep threat, or stout enough to be a possession receiver....this pretty much sums up Hardy, who was unsigned deep into free agency before the Falcons brought him in.   Has value as a red zone specialist and good hands as a KR.  Is that enough to keep Hardy over Blake, Zaccheaus and/or Gray?

TE Logan Paulsen.  Hard one, for me anyway.  Extremely underrated, Paulsen is a good TE who is unfortunately the fourth option on this roster.  He would probably return to Washington where he played several seasons.

RB Brian Hill.  Another hard one.  Yes Hill has been very productive.....he did not start his career that way.  Ollison on the other hand, is showing flashes of being productive, now....right now.  Then there is this:  Hill was drafted before Koetter and Mularkey came along, while Ollison was selected by our current coaching staff even though Hill was on our roster..  I would really like to see us keep four RBs, but Barner looks to be our fourth keeper.

I think Hardy will make the team...

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4 hours ago, egoprime II said:

I believe the Falcons have enough veteran talent at the starting positions, that some of our 'depth' veterans may well be gone soon.  Among them:

S/LB Khemal Ishmael.  With Neasman and Cooper, I don't see a spot for him.

LB Bruce Carter.  Grace's play, plus Riley's slowly improving play and special teams value, makes Carter expendable.

DL Adrian Clayborn.  I made a post concerning him...

WR Justin Hardy.  Not shifty or quick enough for the slot, not enough speed to be a deep threat, or stout enough to be a possession receiver....this pretty much sums up Hardy, who was unsigned deep into free agency before the Falcons brought him in.   Has value as a red zone specialist and good hands as a KR.  Is that enough to keep Hardy over Blake, Zaccheaus and/or Gray?

TE Logan Paulsen.  Hard one, for me anyway.  Extremely underrated, Paulsen is a good TE who is unfortunately the fourth option on this roster.  He would probably return to Washington where he played several seasons.

RB Brian Hill.  Another hard one.  Yes Hill has been very productive.....he did not start his career that way.  Ollison on the other hand, is showing flashes of being productive, now....right now.  Then there is this:  Hill was drafted before Koetter and Mularkey came along, while Ollison was selected by our current coaching staff even though Hill was on our roster..  I would really like to see us keep four RBs, but Barner looks to be our fourth keeper.

I dunno about cutting Clayborn.  He looked pretty good and we need pass rush.

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4 hours ago, egoprime II said:

I believe the Falcons have enough veteran talent at the starting positions, that some of our 'depth' veterans may well be gone soon.  Among them:

S/LB Khemal Ishmael.  With Neasman and Cooper, I don't see a spot for him.

LB Bruce Carter.  Grace's play, plus Riley's slowly improving play and special teams value, makes Carter expendable.

DL Adrian Clayborn.  I made a post concerning him...

WR Justin Hardy.  Not shifty or quick enough for the slot, not enough speed to be a deep threat, or stout enough to be a possession receiver....this pretty much sums up Hardy, who was unsigned deep into free agency before the Falcons brought him in.   Has value as a red zone specialist and good hands as a KR.  Is that enough to keep Hardy over Blake, Zaccheaus and/or Gray?

TE Logan Paulsen.  Hard one, for me anyway.  Extremely underrated, Paulsen is a good TE who is unfortunately the fourth option on this roster.  He would probably return to Washington where he played several seasons.

RB Brian Hill.  Another hard one.  Yes Hill has been very productive.....he did not start his career that way.  Ollison on the other hand, is showing flashes of being productive, now....right now.  Then there is this:  Hill was drafted before Koetter and Mularkey came along, while Ollison was selected by our current coaching staff even though Hill was on our roster..  I would really like to see us keep four RBs, but Barner looks to be our fourth keeper.

Cutting Clayborn is just a plain stupid man. Hageman has shown little to nothing. Without question he goes first.

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Hardy will stay DQ is not gonna get giddy about a few plays in pre season. It is a long, grueling 16 game season and his experience, sure hands will cone in handy. Are you kidding about Clay they brought him here to compliment Vic and Taak. I do think Paulson will cause some head scratching 

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17 minutes ago, 4LoveoftheGame said:

I like the idea of time to move on from Hardy.

Keep 6 Wrs:

Jones

Sanu

Ridley

Gage

Gray

Blake

I gotta say, I was not optimistic we keep Hardy this year...but after looking at your list I am convinced we keep him or bring in another vet on 1 year deal at cutdowns...I don't believe we are going to roll with 4 different 1st or 2nd year players combined...and only 1 of the 4 has meaningful offensive snaps in their NFL experience. We are not going to roll with 2 UDFA's on the roster....we too often get wrapped up in the idea because rookies are unproven and somehow flashier...but wiley vets bring a lot to the table, like understanding assignments, and being reliable.

Year after year people wanted Finneran gone. They wanted Weemy gone. 

Its harder to replace vets with UDFA's than we think.

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