Knight of God 53,921 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I can’t freaking stand Koetter...period! Rings, FalconsIn2012, slick0ne and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rbad8717 310 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I'm admittedly still bitter about the SB, but there is no denying that KS is a master at game planning to confuse and exploit and excellent play caller. FalconsIn2012 and JohnnyFranchise 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Knight of God said: I can’t freaking stand Koetter...period! LOL...that’s what I respect about you, fam. Honest and to the point. Falcons Fan MVP and Knight of God 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BoomGoesTheDynamite 7,214 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 21 minutes ago, Knight of God said: I can’t freaking stand Koetter...period! Well if he does suck this year, we better hope the D can ball out like the 2000 Ravens or it's gonna be a LONG year Knight of God 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tandy 18,278 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Sorry, but I have to go with Shanahan. I loved his play calling and style. He brought out the very best in every player on the offense. The offense was fun to watch and I never felt like we were going to lose the game. Loved him. You can blame the Super Bowl loss on him, but truth is, that's how he played - he never quit trying to score - and I love that about him. I honestly believe that if the defense wasn't so gassed, Alex Mack's leg wasn't giving out on him, we hadn't lost Schraeder and Coleman - that series with the amazing throw/catch to Julio would have ended very differently. If there is one thing I like about Koetter, it's how he gives Ryan more say at the line. Shanahan, genius and all, was very obstinate about only doing things his way. BoomGoesTheDynamite, Falcons Fan MVP, FalconsIn2012 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
runshoot 1,383 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 14 hours ago, falcons007 said: How many historic offenses Shanny had before and after 2016? Ryan threw 35 TD under Sark with rag tag OL. If the offense stays healthy, I could see Ryan throwing 40 TD. And its been posted ad nauseam here that DK didnt even call his own offense in TB. And last year the one game that he did call the plays he scored THREE points. Dirk is a loser. Always has been. Matt got Dirk that job in TB. Just like he got Mularkey his job and Kyle his job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcons Fan MVP 3,944 Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 3 hours ago, BoomGoesTheDynamite said: Well if he does suck this year, we better hope the D can ball out like the 2000 Ravens or it's gonna be a LONG year Our offense has so much talent that Dirk should be fine this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.11 8,355 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, Falcons Fan MVP said: Our offense has so much talent that Dirk should be fine this year. I don't like that mentality. Shanahan without Garropollo still produced the league's 3rd best running game and a TE with 1300+ receiving yards in 2018. For that matter, everywhere he's been Kyle has been able to get the best out of the ground game regardless of personnel, and I know in Washington those O-lines were garbage. Something is wrong if DK needs all this talent to be just fine. Granted, DK isn't a bad coordinator, but as @FalconsIn2020 put it, he's not the innovator Kyle is. Maybe learning a new offense will get the creative mojo going for DK, but I just haven't seen his offenses consistently create the kind of fireworks Kyle's does, and seemingly so effortlessly. FalconsIn2012 and Knight of God 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 minute ago, No.11 said: I don't like that mentality. Shanahan without Garropollo still produced the league's 3rd best running game and a TE with 1300+ receiving yards in 2018. For that matter, everywhere he's been Kyle has been able to get the best out of the ground game regardless of personnel, and I know in Washington those O-lines were garbage. Something is wrong if DK needs all this talent to be just fine. Granted, DK isn't a bad coordinator, but as @FalconsIn2020 put it, he's not the innovator Kyle is. Maybe learning a new offense will get the creative mojo going for DK, but I just haven't seen his offenses create the kind of fireworks Kyle's does, and seemingly so effortlessly. Your last two sentences are on point. It’s something I mentioned to Vel. This new offense may stir up Dirk’s creative juices and give his career a needed jump start Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 8/3/2019 at 9:47 PM, Falcons Fan MVP said: Who's style do you like more Dirk Koetter or Kyle Shanahan? Which coordinator do you like better overall? Feel free to talk about things you like or dislike about each one. I’ll go with KS. It’s funny that a year ago this was even a debate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcons Fan MVP 3,944 Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 40 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: I’ll go with KS. It’s funny that a year ago this was even a debate I think Dirk Koetter will have a pretty good year this year as long as offensive line holds up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Godzilla1985 6,707 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 8/3/2019 at 9:51 PM, Godzilla1985 said: 7th best offense in league history was under Shanny. I’m excited about Koetter but I wished we could have kept Shannahan. I actually posted this???? “Excited about Koetter” ******* idiot Rings, Lee Long© and FalconsIn2012 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Godzilla1985 said: I actually posted this???? “Excited about Koetter” ******* idiot I was duped, too Godzilla1985 and Rings 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 26,590 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 8/3/2019 at 7:37 PM, FalconsIn2012 said: His value was pretty obvious. PPG Without Jimmy G: 18 ppg. Record 1-11 PPG With Jimmy G: 32 ppg. Record 5-0 So that tells me that he is not that great and is reliant on the players needed Falcons Fan MVP 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HEIST 5,268 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) Shanahan and its not remotely close. edit: Oops this is a super old post lol. Well still at the time this woulda been my answer. Edited May 7, 2020 by HEIST Falcons Fan MVP 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francis York Morgan 25,622 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Would you rather have a million dollars or stick your pecker in a woodchipper? FalconsIn2012, slick0ne, Vandy and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 45 minutes ago, falconsd56 said: So that tells me that he is not that great and is reliant on the players needed Show me a coach who can win with Mullens/Beathard But that post was about Jimmy G’s value, not Shannahan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcons Fan MVP 3,944 Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 54 minutes ago, Godzilla1985 said: I actually posted this???? “Excited about Koetter” ******* idiot You was probably thinking about the 2012 season Lee Long© and Godzilla1985 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Francis York Morgan said: Would you rather have a million dollars or stick your pecker in a woodchipper? ROFLMBO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 3,399 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 I want any OC that is smart enough to let MR2 call his own plays at the line. Give him some scripted plays, let him decide what to do based on the defense, and look like a genius in the process JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mister pudding said: I want any OC that is smart enough to let MR2 call his own plays at the line. Give him some scripted plays, let him decide what to do based on the defense, and look like a genius in the process And yet the one OC who restricted much of Ryan’s ability to audible got the very best out of Ryan Rings and Mister pudding 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
revrndzombie 228 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 whoever can call a running play.....so not DK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jidady 10,417 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 This question reads like, "Waterboarding or orgasms, which one do you like more?" FalconsIn2012 and Vandy 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister pudding 3,399 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: And yet the one OC who restricted much of Ryan’s ability to audible got the very best out of Ryan You are probably correct with that point. KS really called to Ryan's strengths with play action and such. But not letting him audible may have cost him a Super Bowl with that sack. MR2 is smart enough to know when and when not to change a play imo JohnnyFranchise, Vandy and FalconsIn2012 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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