Kaleb McGary to have heart procedure per team

[Lethal]

13 minutes ago, MAD597 said:

This will be the THIRD time he has had this done.

Much like your posting, sometimes it takes a while to get it right...

Unfortunately for the rest of this board, your posting will be an issue long after Kaleb's heart condition.

[TheFatboi]

1 hour ago, droopy1592 said:

The conduction issue can get worse with age or be worsened by certain substances in your diet. High caffeine intake has been correlated with increased risk of arrhythmias. I’m really not sure why you have this issue as this isn’t my specialty, it’s just that with anesthesia we have to be intimate with cardiology and lung physiology. We know enough to be dangerous but not necessarily diagnose. Idiopathic/transient/paroxysmal pathological issues, whatever you want to call it, are the hardest thing in all of medicine to diagnose because you rarely see the issue in a controlled setting. 

I’m surprised you haven’t done a stress test or had some chemical acceleration testing to see what’s going on. It’s probably not a priority to a cardiologist if it’s not persistent or life-threatening.  

Yea the doc did tell me to take a stress test. And I don’t really do caffeine. Found out about that long time ago. 

[Ergo Proxy]

11 minutes ago, athell said:

Much like your posting, sometimes it takes a while to get it right...

Unfortunately for the rest of this board, your posting will be an issue long after Kaleb's heart condition.

[droopy1592]

14 minutes ago, TheFatboi said:

Yea the doc did tell me to take a stress test. And I don’t really do caffeine. Found out about that long time ago. 

Apple Watch 4 literally can do an 2 lead equivalent of an ekg if you touch the crown with your opposite finger while wearing the watch. You could probably save some money and it would alert you of the specific arrhythmia or at least an approximation. I get occasional pvcs when I do certain things and wanted to be sure and the watch showed it to me real time. This might be an option. 

[falconidae]

2 hours ago, MAD597 said:

This will be the THIRD time he has had this done.

“First of all, he’s got this heart problem that is not life threatening,” said Shephal Doshi, a cardiac electrophysiologist and director of cardiac electrophysiology and pacing at Providence Saint John’s Health Center in Santa Monica, Ca. “It’s something that can be fixed and sometimes it takes a couple of times to fix it.

But what he’s got is like an electrical short-circuit in his heart. When most people think of heart disease, they think of a blocked artery and a heart attack. That’s plumbing. This is electrical. It’s not the same problem.”...

...The reason he’s having a third procedure is that sometimes its hard to find that right spot,” Doshi said. “That doesn’t mean that he’s not curable. It just means that they haven’t found the right light bulb yet, so they keep calling the electrician back.”

 

So, yeah, the experts are saying exactly what I just said, which, by the way, is WHY I stated it.

It's a minor procedure, he likely goes home the same day, he can be back in as little time as a  month.

 

So, I got you, who has yet to have a positive post about the falcons, thinking that the Falcons have wasted a pick on a guy  with a heart condition that probably can't be fixed.

On the other hand, every single poster here that has experience with the procedure, either by having it themselves or because they work in the field are pretty calm about it,

There have been 2-3  posts here with quotes from  doctors. who are experts in the field saying that Kaleb will be fine and able to resume his career.

Going with the guys who know the procedure and the doctor's opinions over yours. Feel free to worry about it, I'm not going to. 

 

 

[TheDirtyWordII]

My brother had this same exact procedure a couple of years ago.  He’s in his 50’s.  He was running within 2-3 days.  What restriction he had was related to the groin incision, not his heart.

[Ergo Proxy]

1 hour ago, TheDirtyWordII said:

My brother had this same exact procedure a couple of years ago.  He’s in his 50’s.  He was running within 2-3 days.  What restriction he had was related to the groin incision, not his heart.

So, basically recovery is avoiding blood clots from forming and longterm it’s about hoping it improved the overall condition of the player?

GA summers can do that to people; push them to limits faster.

Edited August 1, 2019 by Ergo Proxy

[octoslash]

1 hour ago, TheDirtyWordII said:

My brother had this same exact procedure a couple of years ago.  He’s in his 50’s.  He was running within 2-3 days.  What restriction he had was related to the groin incision, not his heart.

I had the groin incision when they did my heart catheter, and you want to talk about sore. I was walking like a mummy for 3 days and couldn't bend over for almost a week, because the guy that patched me up afterwards mashed down on my muscles so hard I thought I was going to die.

[TheDirtyWordII]

51 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said:

So, basically recovery is avoiding blood clots from forming and longterm it’s about hoping it improved the overall condition of the player?

GA summers can do that to people; push them to limits faster.

He’d had that heart racing thing for most of his life - cropped up here and there.  Began to happen more frequently so he had to get it taken care of.  No issues since.  That said, he’s not a professional athlete of course.  But it’s not something he was much worried about even prior to the procedure. Don’t know about the blood thinners though.  I’ll have to ask.

[Falcons Fan MVP]

4 hours ago, athell said:

Much like your posting, sometimes it takes a while to get it right...

Unfortunately for the rest of this board, your posting will be an issue long after Kaleb's heart condition.

 

5 hours ago, MAD597 said:

This will be the THIRD time he has had this done.

I bet you if the Falcons win a championship our fans like MAD597 will be more relaxed and positive. 

[Lethal]

1 minute ago, Falcons Fan MVP said:

 

I bet you if the Falcons win a championship our fans like MAD597 will be more relaxed and positive. 

I mean...his name isn't HAPPY597 so...doubtful...

[Falcons Fan MVP]

I don't think the Falcons would have drafted Kaleb if they thought hid health would be a concern. I'm sure they did their homework. 

[Falcons Fan MVP]

Just now, athell said:

I mean...his name isn't HAPPY597 so...doubtful...

He's been a fan since like the 70's or 80's. Old timer Falcons fans are losing their patience. I probably will have to just lower my expectations if the Falcons are still ringless in 20 years from now for my own good.

[Lethal]

Just now, Falcons Fan MVP said:

He's been a fan since like the 70's or 80's. Old timer Falcons fans are losing their patience. I probably will have to just lower my expectations if the Falcons are still ringless in 20 years from now for my own good.

I've been a fan since '89.  If being a fan of a team causes you to be an insufferable prick and do nothing but hate on the team you supposedly cheer for to win, maybe it's time to hang 'em up.

[gazoo]

2 hours ago, falconidae said:

There have been 2-3  posts here with quotes from  doctors. who are experts in the field saying that Kaleb will be fine and able to resume his career.

Going with the guys who know the procedure and the doctor's opinions over yours. Feel free to worry about it, I'm not going to. 

Thank you. I stopped reading the wild speculation on this thread late yesterday and decided  to wait and see what his physicians take was on this.  Electrical issue......that is the best news I've had all day.

[Falcons Fan MVP]

8 minutes ago, athell said:

I've been a fan since '89.  If being a fan of a team causes you to be an insufferable prick and do nothing but hate on the team you supposedly cheer for to win, maybe it's time to hang 'em up.

I would at least wait until Matt Ryan and Julio Jones retires. I think that Matt Ryan wants a championship just as BADLY as we do for the city of Atlanta.

[FalconsIn2012]

4 hours ago, TheFatboi said:

Yea the doc did tell me to take a stress test. And I don’t really do caffeine. Found out about that long time ago. 

Stress test is key since many symptoms escape detection by an EKG unless you are having  an episode while taking the EKG.  

People pass their EKG and assume all is well...

[TheFatboi]

2 minutes ago, FalconsIn2020 said:

Stress test is key since many symptoms escape detection by an EKG unless you are having  an episode while taking the EKG.  

People pass their EKG and assume all is well...

This is true. And I’m in a high stress profession. But I deal with stress better than the average because of that. I still need to check it out tho. 

[FalconsIn2012]

3 minutes ago, TheFatboi said:

This is true. And I’m in a high stress profession. But I deal with stress better than the average because of that. I still need to check it out tho. 

I know you’re grandpa now so check it out soon so you can have 30 or more great years with your fam.  

Maybe you’ll get to be Great Grandpa Fatboi...hopefully you do, bud.

[TheFatboi]

32 minutes ago, FalconsIn2020 said:

I know you’re grandpa now so check it out soon so you can have 30 or more great years with your fam.  

Maybe you’ll get to be Great Grandpa Fatboi...hopefully you do, bud.

I’m expecting to brother lol. It’s time for an overall checkup anyway so I’ll get it all checked. 

[gazoo]

8 hours ago, atljbo said:

 

 

BOOM!

He could play the following week after the procedure if it weren’t for having to take the blood thinners. It’s the blood thinners that keep him off the field, not the procedure. 

My God the nonsense I was reading on this thread yesterday, almost as if they were going to have to do a heart transplant and he may never play again. Jeeeeeeeeeeez this place sometimes.

[ki46dinah]

7 hours ago, gazoo said:

BOOM!

He could play the following week after the procedure if it weren’t for having to take the blood thinners. It’s the blood thinners that keep him off the field, not the procedure. 

My God the nonsense I was reading on this thread yesterday, almost as if they were going to have to do a heart transplant and he may never play again. Jeeeeeeeeeeez this place sometimes.

People don’t know what they don’t know. Instead of taking the known information, and researching or considering what it means, they immediately jump to condemn and **** the situation. Human nature I guess.

[FalconsIn2012]

20 hours ago, vel said:

Don't know if this thread was posted but....

 

Sounds like he will be out 2-3 months.  He won’t play while on blood thinners.  That was one of Chris Bosh’s obstacles.

[FalconsIn2012]

11 hours ago, gazoo said:

BOOM!

He could play the following week after the procedure if it weren’t for having to take the blood thinners. It’s the blood thinners that keep him off the field, not the procedure. 

My God the nonsense I was reading on this thread yesterday, almost as if they were going to have to do a heart transplant and he may never play again. Jeeeeeeeeeeez this place sometimes.

We knew the recovery process from his last procedure.  The concerning thing is 4 heart procedures in 6 years.  The root problem still hasn’t been identified and controlled.

@droopy1592  Don’t these heart catheters usually address the issue after 1 ablation?

[falconidae]

13 minutes ago, FalconsIn2020 said:

Sounds like he will be out 2-3 months.  He won’t play while on blood thinners.  That was one of Chris Bosh’s obstacles.

“Six to eight weeks, is very common,” Doshi said. “Usually, we do 8 to 12 weeks, but because he’s young, he may not need the full 12 weeks and they can probably get away with eight. It depends on how much they burned when they get in there. They may find out they don’t need to burn that much and may just say four weeks. It’s good to plan for six to eight, just in case, but he may have a speedier recovery than that.”

9 minutes ago, FalconsIn2020 said:

We knew the recovery process from his last procedure.  The concerning thing is 4 heart procedures in 6 years.  The root problem still hasn’t been identified and controlled.

@droopy1592  Don’t these heart catheters usually address the issue after 1 ablation?

Both quotes from Shephal Doshi, a cardiac electrophysiologist and director of cardiac electrophysiology and pacing at Providence Saint John’s Health Center in Santa Monica, Ca.

 

“It’s something that can be fixed and sometimes it takes a couple of times to fix it....The reason he’s having a third procedure is that sometimes its hard to find that right spot,” Doshi said. “That doesn’t mean that he’s not curable.