caponine 6,586 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 i just dont understand how some falcons fans can say that Freeman is going to get 100% , it makes no sense from a nfl perspective and from a health perspective. You want Freeman ready for the post season. They cant be that clueless right ?? PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 32,624 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Tell me who tf Abraham Y. Salinas is and why I should give any weight to what he has to say? Vandy, PokerSteve, Shooter Says and 16 others 19 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caponine 6,586 Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, athell said: Tell me who tf Abraham Y. Salinas is and why I should give any weight to what he has to say? because i think there are more than just a few people that want to see the rbbc approach dead and gone from Atlanta. He’s just an example of 1 Edited July 22, 2019 by caponine Knight of God 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smiler11 6,294 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 ParanoidAndroid, Tim Mazetti and papachaz 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 32,624 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, caponine said: because i think there are more than just a few people that want to see the rbbc approach dead and gone from Atlanta. He’s just an example of 1 Who? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caponine 6,586 Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 Just now, athell said: Who? Falcons Fans there’s a bunch on twitter. They're tired of players stealing opportunities from Free. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 32,624 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Just now, caponine said: Falcons Fans there’s a bunch on twitter. They're tired of players stealing opportunities from Free. Take heart, Free will never be a workhorse back. His frame can't sustain that and our coaches are not that dumb. Especially from a dude coming off being on IR for a year. shock, TheFatboi, PokerSteve and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 67,738 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Honestly wasn’t expecting it to go away Statick, TheFatboi, papachaz and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 67,738 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, caponine said: Falcons Fans there’s a bunch on twitter. They're tired of players stealing opportunities from Free. Ain’t nobody stealing opportunities from Freeman. Those fans are complete idiots caponine, Statick, papachaz and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The O.D.B 4,349 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, athell said: Take heart, Free will never be a workhorse back. His frame can't sustain that and our coaches are not that dumb. Especially from a dude coming off being on IR for a year. While you are correct, I tend to think of it in a more positive way. - Any NFL back who's a rode like a workhorse through the season, will either get hurt at an inopportune time or will be running on fumes later in the season. I think our RBC is just an acknowledgement of this and not of a deficiency in a player. RBC also provides better visibility into if we have the next Walter Peyton sitting in the wings. papachaz, ya_boi_j and athell 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
federicofalcon2 828 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Honestly, I want the best players on the field at all time. Whether it's Freeman, Ollison, Smith, Hill, Green, IDC. I just want the best out there and if we need to trade for another number 2 if Freeman doesn't come back completely (which I DO think he will, he's has a whole year to train and heal and I believe he will be fresher than he was behind SJ) but no matter what the scenario, best 11 on the field, that means that if Freeman comes out the person who swap out better not be such a huge drop off that the offense takes a drop in production. When Coleman used to swap with Freeman, they were TOTALLY different styles, but very much productive as the next. There were even times when Ward would come in and get those tough yards, lay the wood and be productive, but the key was getting him in there at the right time. I know it will take a while to find out for sure just what we have in these backs, but its one of the reasons I'm thankful for the extra preseason game. Our backups should get PLENTY of playing time next week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 67,738 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, The O.D.B said: While you are correct, I tend to think of it in a more positive way. - Any NFL back who's a rode like a workhorse through the season, will either get hurt at an inopportune time or will be running on fumes later in the season. I think our RBC is just an acknowledgement of this and not of a deficiency in a player. RBC also provides better visibility into if we have the next Walter Peyton sitting in the wings. Work horse guys don’t last long. Anyone who has over 350+ touches per season isn’t going to have a career that lives beyond 5 years. If they do their production will drop significantly after those 5 years. athell, papachaz, Statick and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ButSkiuup 283 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Freeman is never healthy enough to be a bell cow. We will feature 2 backs and they will probably both still struggle to be healthy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Izo#2883 346 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Michael Turner was a featured back and he saw a rapid decline. If you want to avoid that decline you go by commitee. RBBC is more a touch/game approach and it often comes down to what the OC is trying to convey/gain on a given down and distance, whether its the Rb1 or 2. I take it, this is what the offensive quality coordinator is managing during games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PokerSteve 28,041 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 46 minutes ago, athell said: Tell me who tf Abraham Y. Salinas is and why I should give any weight to what he has to say? He's a mental midget with delusions of sports media grandeur. athell 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 32,624 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 minute ago, PokerSteve said: He's a mental midget with delusions of sports media grandeur. lol oh that makes sense. What's his TATF username? Utah_Saint, Falconsfan567, PokerSteve and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NorthGaBoy 1,455 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I would encourage Freeman to be more elusive. I would try things with our H-back and with Hill and Ollison. Who can get the tough yards? So, I would essentially end up with a 2 RB rotation with our H-back used to open holes. Ito Smith would be used to keep Free as fresh as possible and also for depth. That is what I would do but I am not an NFL coach. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ButSkiuup 283 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, NaGaBoy said: I would encourage Freeman to be more elusive. I would try things with our H-back and with Hill and Ollison. Who can get the tough yards? So, I would essentially end up with a 2 RB rotation with our H-back used to open holes. Ito Smith would be used to keep Free as fresh as possible and also for depth. That is what I would do but I am not an NFL coach. He’ll be in concussion protocol before you know it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shock 2,290 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Freeman can’t handle being the only RB getting significant touches. Last time he was that guy he broke down at the end of the season and ran out of gas. We need the RBBC here in Atlanta and anyone who thinks Freeman can handle the load for 16+ games is delusional. athell 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caponine 6,586 Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 7 hours ago, athell said: Take heart, Free will never be a workhorse back. His frame can't sustain that and our coaches are not that dumb. Especially from a dude coming off being on IR for a year. trust me i know but others seem to not know how football works athell and Vandy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caponine 6,586 Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, ya_boi_j said: Ain’t nobody stealing opportunities from Freeman. Those fans are complete idiots Same thing i said, Free is going to get 50/60 % of snaps and the other two will share the rest. fantasy football has corrupted people’s minds unfortunately. Edited July 23, 2019 by caponine ya_boi_j and Vandy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 67,738 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 13 hours ago, caponine said: Same thing i said, Free is going to get 50/60 % of snaps and the other two will share the rest. fantasy football has corrupted people’s minds unfortunately. yes it has Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falconsfan567 35,212 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Freeman will be the starter but we'll still see quite a bit of Ito Smith and the rookie backs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Long Shot 4,081 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said: Freeman will be the starter but we'll still see quite a bit of Ito Smith and the rookie backs. As has been posted in this thread, no one uses bell cows anymore. The days of having one feature back get 15-20 carries a game are gone; virtually every team deploys a rotation at RB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus 26,684 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Zeke is the only back in the NFL anyone wants to run into the ground. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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