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Salary Cap

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Now that we've got Grady Jarrett and Deion Jones signed, has it proven to you guys that we know what we're doing as a front office? Has it also proven that the salary cap is not this hard cap number? It's not. You can configure contracts many different ways as shown in the thread about the Eagles and how they structure contracts. You can easily spend more than what the salary cap number is. Actual dollars spent vs. hard cap number, those are two different things. Let's also not forget that the cap keeps going up at a great rate every season and it's hard to see that changing when a new CBA is done. There's no reason to ever doubt Thomas Dimitroff and company. This is not the Rankin Smith Falcons anymore. This is Arthur Blank's Falcons and business is done differently. We do not let talent walk. We keep our own. I have nothing but endless confidence in those two aspects of the team. Hopefully after 2019 I can say the same about the coaching staff.

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No one is worried about this year, it’s the future. In order to sign the guys you mentioned, we let go of what? 3 starters and Coleman and have to hope their replacements don’t skip a beat

 

 

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5 minutes ago, ButSkiuup said:

No one is worried about this year, it’s the future. In order to sign the guys you mentioned, we let go of what? 3 starters and Coleman and have to hope their replacements don’t skip a beat

 

 

That’s how football works. Some folks are bad contracts that you can finally dump, some are aging players that you move on from, some are tough decisions.

we have some aging players and some nearing the end of their deals that will allow us room for our young bucks to sign.

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The salary CAP. An be manipulated, but  doing so always has consequences within a year or two.  

You can see by our Dead Cap number that TD prefers not to manipulate it often

I would like to see him use NLTBE’s more often like the Pats do

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3 minutes ago, 1989Fan said:

That’s how football works. Some folks are bad contracts that you can finally dump, some are aging players that you move on from, some are tough decisions.

we have some aging players and some nearing the end of their deals that will allow us room for our young bucks to sign.

Yeah but the problem is when you move on from players that got you to the SB or other success. 

When you move on from John Abraham to soon and can’t generate a pass rush

When you let starting tackle go and hope the replacements are good 

When you move on from the most clutch kicker in history and hope the replacement is the same

etc 

We are getting further and further away from the 2016 formula and replacing them with question marks. If it works out good, but nothing is sure right now

 

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13 minutes ago, ButSkiuup said:

No one is worried about this year, it’s the future. In order to sign the guys you mentioned, we let go of what? 3 starters and Coleman and have to hope their replacements don’t skip a beat

That's the way it works. You keep your core players and replace the role players. It's why continuing to be successful at drafting is key. You have to have the right players to step up and replace the guys you let walk.

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2 minutes ago, ButSkiuup said:

Yeah but the problem is when you move on from players that got you to the SB or other success. 

When you move on from John Abraham to soon and can’t generate a pass rush

When you let starting tackle go and hope the replacements are good 

When you move on from the most clutch kicker in history and hope the replacement is the same

etc 

We are getting further and further away from the 2016 formula and replacing them with question marks. If it works out good, but nothing is sure right now

Bill Walsh said it's better to get rid of a player a year too soon rather than a year too late. There's also some question about if the replacement will be good enough or not. There's nothing you can do about that.

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3 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said:

Bill Walsh said it's better to get rid of a player a year too soon rather than a year too late. There's also some question about if the replacement will be good enough or not. There's nothing you can do about that.

My concern is that we missed our perfect window and now are at the point where we have to pick and choose who to pay and let good players go in the process to where we are constantly middle of the pack. You have to win before you get to the point and now it just seems too late

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29 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said:

Now that we've got Grady Jackson and Deion Jones signed, has it proven to you guys that we know what we're doing as a front office? Has it also proven that the salary cap is not this hard cap number? It's not. You can configure contracts many different ways as shown in the thread about the Eagles and how they structure contracts. You can easily spend more than what the salary cap number is. Actual dollars spent vs. hard cap number, those are two different things. Let's also not forget that the cap keeps going up at a great rate every season and it's hard to see that changing when a new CBA is done. There's no reason to ever doubt Thomas Dimitroff and company. This is not the Rankin Smith Falcons anymore. This is Arthur Blank's Falcons and business is done differently. We do not let talent walk. We keep our own. I have nothing but endless confidence in those two aspects of the team. Hopefully after 2019 I can say the same about the coaching staff.

 Bro, Grady Jackson? 

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33 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said:

Now that we've got Grady Jackson and Deion Jones signed, has it proven to you guys that we know what we're doing as a front office?

Yeah, Gravey is back for another season!

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4 hours ago, Falconsfan567 said:

Now that we've got Grady Jackson and Deion Jones signed, has it proven to you guys that we know what we're doing as a front office? Has it also proven that the salary cap is not this hard cap number? It's not. You can configure contracts many different ways as shown in the thread about the Eagles and how they structure contracts. You can easily spend more than what the salary cap number is. Actual dollars spent vs. hard cap number, those are two different things. Let's also not forget that the cap keeps going up at a great rate every season and it's hard to see that changing when a new CBA is done. There's no reason to ever doubt Thomas Dimitroff and company. This is not the Rankin Smith Falcons anymore. This is Arthur Blank's Falcons and business is done differently. We do not let talent walk. We keep our own. I have nothing but endless confidence in those two aspects of the team. Hopefully after 2019 I can say the same about the coaching staff.

LMAO at "we do not let talent walk" Please bro. Abe, Grimes, Mud Duck, Clabo, Bryant, DiMarco, Dahl, The Burner, Poe, Irvin, Alf, Teco, you name it. We replaced them with clowns like Osi, Tru, Missing Persons, Puddin, Deaf Coleman, King Konz, SJax, Turrible McClain, etc. That was mainly because of Dimi's cap mismanagement. He is definitely not the cap guru TATF said he was. Just look at where we ranked in available cap space over the last four years:

  • 2018 - 31st
  • 2017 - 32nd
  • 2016 - 29th
  • 2015 - 25th

And when Debo's cap number hits the books we're gonna be right back down on the bottom again. That's why we've been bottom feeders in free agency the last couple years. Go look at the 2020 and 2021 tables as well as the players under contract. It aint pretty.

 

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35 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said:

LMAO at "we do not let talent walk" Please bro. Abe, Grimes, Mud Duck, Clabo, Bryant, DiMarco, Dahl, The Burner, Poe, Alf, Teco, you name it. We replaced them with clowns like Osi, Tru, Missing Persons, Puddin, Deaf Coleman, King Konz, SJax, Turrible McClain, etc. That was mainly because of Dimi's cap mismanagement. He is definitely not the cap guru TATF said he was. Just look at where we ranked in available cap space over the last four years:

  • 2018 - 31st
  • 2017 - 32nd
  • 2016 - 29th
  • 2015 - 25th

And when Debo's cap number hits the books we're gonna be right back down on the bottom again. That's why we've been bottom feeders in free agency the last couple years. Go look at the 2020 and 2021 tables as well as the players under contract. It aint pretty.

 

Lol at you naming off old/average guys as if we should have kept them all.

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Salary Cap to me just means a guide.Yes there is a limit.But for me the narrative around here from alot commenting is that because of the given limit that,that’s it set in stone.

Its as though we are the only team that doesn’t no how to manipulate it to make it work for us.

Draft has always been the key not how much we are paying the drafted developed talent.

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11 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said:

LMAO at "we do not let talent walk" Please bro. Abe, Grimes, Mud Duck, Clabo, Bryant, DiMarco, Dahl, The Burner, Poe, Alf, Teco, you name it. We replaced them with clowns like Osi, Tru, Missing Persons, Puddin, Deaf Coleman, King Konz, SJax, Turrible McClain, etc. That was mainly because of Dimi's cap mismanagement. He is definitely not the cap guru TATF said he was. Just look at where we ranked in available cap space over the last four years:

  • 2018 - 31st
  • 2017 - 32nd
  • 2016 - 29th
  • 2015 - 25th

And when Debo's cap number hits the books we're gonna be right back down on the bottom again. That's why we've been bottom feeders in free agency the last couple years. Go look at the 2020 and 2021 tables as well as the players under contract. It aint pretty.

 

Exactly- TD did a great job with the cap before 2014 when the roster was lacking stars....show me how good you are with the stars and add the final pieces to the puzzle to win the big trophy 

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5 minutes ago, Atl Falcon said:

Exactly- TD did a great job with the cap before 2014 when the roster was lacking stars....show me how good you are with the stars and add the final pieces to the puzzle to win the big trophy 

He was good when it was easy. When it gets tough he folds. 

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Just now, FalconFanSince1970 said:

Every one of those so called old average players was way better than Dimi's replacement players son.

Exactly 

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6 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said:

Every one of those so called old average players was way better than Dimi's replacement players son.

Looollll ok. Because age never makes players bad.

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2 hours ago, Falconsfan567 said:

Now that we've got Grady Jackson and Deion Jones signed, has it proven to you guys that we know what we're doing as a front office? Has it also proven that the salary cap is not this hard cap number? It's not. You can configure contracts many different ways as shown in the thread about the Eagles and how they structure contracts. You can easily spend more than what the salary cap number is. Actual dollars spent vs. hard cap number, those are two different things. Let's also not forget that the cap keeps going up at a great rate every season and it's hard to see that changing when a new CBA is done. There's no reason to ever doubt Thomas Dimitroff and company. This is not the Rankin Smith Falcons anymore. This is Arthur Blank's Falcons and business is done differently. We do not let talent walk. We keep our own. I have nothing but endless confidence in those two aspects of the team. Hopefully after 2019 I can say the same about the coaching staff.

When did we sign Grady Jackson?!

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1 minute ago, kiwifalcon said:

Can someone please name a better GM in Atlanta Falcons history please.

Ill wait.

Can anyone tell me who was in charge of the franchise in its most successful era in its history please 

I’ll wait.

And still hasn’t won anything. Don’t accept a B+ because it isn’t a C

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