VTCrunkler 9,430 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 2 hours ago, UK13 said: Your right , personally i think wentz isnt much better than a sverage qb , dallas will be hit hard too unless they let elliot test the market So I think Wentz has been paid his second contract already. But I’m not sold on him as a starter for a 16 game season. Zeke is the engine that makes Dallas run tips on rb yardage since 2016. Vandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 26,062 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 @Yo_Lover should def be merged into OP JD dirtybird21 and Ovie_Lover 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,814 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 45 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: @Yo_Lover should def be merged into OP Exactly. They're just looking at total money and not cap hits here. Kinda dumb tbh. Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 26,062 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 59 minutes ago, Yo_Lover said: Exactly. They're just looking at total money and not cap hits here. Kinda dumb tbh. Misleading at best. Ovie_Lover 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stray Dog THA GAWD 4,263 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Hope it's worth it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Iron Saint 1,172 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 0:55 AM, FalconsIn2020 said: @Iron Saint http://www.blackandgoldreview.com/2017/08/31/kamara-evolution-joker Appreciate the link. It's a good little article, but is only rooted in wins and losses which is rather skewed considering it doesn't take into account the putrid defenses I mentioned earlier. There are only 9 games in those 5 years mentioned (2007, 2012, 2014-2016) where I feel the defense did enough to win (held the opponent to 25 points or less) when taking into the account the caliber of our offense, and it came down to our offense not getting it done. With the offensive talent we've had those years, if we couldn't score 3 TD's and 2 FG's (27 points) per game with the defense not allowing more than 25 points, we honestly deserved to lose. Furthermore, our record in 1-score games those years shows even though our offense scored higher than their season's average ppg, our defense also gave up more than their season's average ppg. The offense was largely getting it done, satellite back or not, the defense just was not. Only in 2016 did our defense hold opponents to fewer points in 1-score games than they allowed for the season and our offense didn't score higher than their season average: 2007: 2-4 record defense gave up 25.5 ppg (1.2 ppg higher than their 2007 average) offense scored 23.8 ppg (0.1 ppg higher than their 2007 average) 2012: 4-5 record defense gave up 31.5 pgg (3.1 ppg higher than their 2012 average) offense scored 31.0 ppg (2.2 ppg higher than their 2012 average) 2014: 3-5 record defense gave up 28.9 ppg (2.4 ppg higher than their 2014 average) offense scored 28.4 ppg (3.3 ppg higher than their 2014 average) 2015: 4-5 record defense gave up 30.0 ppg (0.2 ppg higher than their 2015 average) offense scored 28.8 ppg (3.3 ppg higher than their 2015 average) 2016: 5-7 record defense gave up 28.1 ppg (0.3 ppg lower than their 2016 average) offense scored 27.8 ppg (1.5 ppg lower than their 2016 average) FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mtldirtybird 1,236 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 yes and it's great because our guys aren't overpaid but because they are better than any trio listed: GB has no established RB SEA no WR MIN no QB PHI no RB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Iron Saint said: Appreciate the link. It's a good little article, but is only rooted in wins and losses which is rather skewed considering it doesn't take into account the putrid defenses I mentioned earlier. There are only 9 games in those 5 years mentioned (2007, 2012, 2014-2016) where I feel the defense did enough to win (held the opponent to 25 points or less) when taking into the account the caliber of our offense, and it came down to our offense not getting it done. With the offensive talent we've had those years, if we couldn't score 3 TD's and 2 FG's (27 points) per game with the defense not allowing more than 25 points, we honestly deserved to lose. Furthermore, our record in 1-score games those years shows even though our offense scored higher than their season's average ppg, our defense also gave up more than their season's average ppg. The offense was largely getting it done, satellite back or not, the defense just was not. Only in 2016 did our defense hold opponents to fewer points in 1-score games than they allowed for the season and our offense didn't score higher than their season average: 2007: 2-4 record defense gave up 25.5 ppg (1.2 ppg higher than their 2007 average) offense scored 23.8 ppg (0.1 ppg higher than their 2007 average) 2012: 4-5 record defense gave up 31.5 pgg (3.1 ppg higher than their 2012 average) offense scored 31.0 ppg (2.2 ppg higher than their 2012 average) 2014: 3-5 record defense gave up 28.9 ppg (2.4 ppg higher than their 2014 average) offense scored 28.4 ppg (3.3 ppg higher than their 2014 average) 2015: 4-5 record defense gave up 30.0 ppg (0.2 ppg higher than their 2015 average) offense scored 28.8 ppg (3.3 ppg higher than their 2015 average) 2016: 5-7 record defense gave up 28.1 ppg (0.3 ppg lower than their 2016 average) offense scored 27.8 ppg (1.5 ppg lower than their 2016 average) Nice format. You and Ergo are long-winded, articulate and just dang good people Iron Saint 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Iron Saint 1,172 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 hours ago, FalconsIn2020 said: Nice format. You and Ergo are long-winded, articulate and just dang good people Much appreciated, friend! And I know, sometimes I feel bad my replies are as long-winded as they are; mostly when 3-4 people quote them right after each other and it's like "Whoops! Now I'm taking up nearly all of this page..." The bad thing is, that one is on the "short" side compared to some of my other posts I've made. Also, I REALLY like bullet points if you can't tell. FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nobis_Ghost 216 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 7/18/2019 at 7:15 PM, FalconsIn2020 said: We have the #1 offense in the NFL bar NONE! What we do with that offense is anyone's guess. FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Nobis_Ghost said: We have the #1 offense in the NFL bar NONE! What we do with that offense is anyone's guess. Quite possibly the best post of the year. Yes, it’s on the coaches. The talent is there to average 35 ppg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 9:46 PM, Ergo Proxy said: Misleading at best. Kind of...but it’s all manipulation. We are #1 by a wide margin next year at 55 million for just Ryan, Julio, Free. We are #1 in 2021 & 2022. Doesn’t mean we will be #1 by the time 2021 comes around though Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 26,062 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 hour ago, FalconsIn2020 said: Kind of...but it’s all manipulation. We are #1 by a wide margin next year at 55 million for just Ryan, Julio, Free. We are #1 in 2021 & 2022. Doesn’t mean we will be #1 by the time 2021 comes around though I doubt Free is still here by then but yeah Julio’s new deal gonna change that anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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