g-dawg 43,576 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Adam Schefter ✔@AdamSchefter Now that the Falcons have reached agreement on a $68 million deal with Grady Jarrett, Atlanta is turning its attention to LB Deion Jones. Falcons and Jones’ agent, Drew Rosenhaus, scheduled for face-to-face negotiations in Atlanta on Wednesday, per source. Another deal in works. 171 3:18 PM - Jul 15, 2019 shock, gHost83, FalconofShadows and 11 others 14 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconofShadows 1,364 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 That's what I like to see mashburn*Fibonacci 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 TD’s job now: Pull up Grady contract, Replace Grady with D. Jones, Control - P Sign Geneaut, Ergo Proxy, Xero and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g-dawg 43,576 Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share Posted July 15, 2019 I'm glad to see this. if we get Debo locked down w/ Jarrett - the defensive corps is safe for the next 4-5 years. No one else on the defense is untouchable - Falcon will look to be adding more front 7 players in 2020 draft. mikeg272, HouseofEuphoria, Ergo Proxy and 7 others 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post athell 32,624 Posted July 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2019 Beat me to it @g-dawg, I'll delete mine but copy over this because it's important: I will say this, which I know will probably fall on def ears, Thomas Dimitroff is good at his job. Very good. Especially when it comes to contracts and the cap. People need to sit back and let him do his thing before freaking out over rumors and speculation. TD is excellent at what he does, and he deserves some shadow of the doubt. The Don™, Godzilla1985, Falconsfan567 and 31 others 34 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
metatron360 349 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Now how much cap space do we have now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shock 2,290 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Excellent news. I don’t even care if we break the bank, Debo needs a new 5 year deal ASAP. Pay that man his money. SleepyJoeB, Xero, The Peregrine and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShmevinShmarris 3,108 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 csnt Wait to see the breakdown and how this will affect the cap Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g-dawg 43,576 Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, athell said: Beat me to it @g-dawg, I'll delete mine but copy over this because it's important: I will say this, which I know will probably fall on def ears, Thomas Dimitroff is good at his job. Very good. Especially when it comes to contracts and the cap. People need to sit back and let him do his thing before freaking out over rumors and speculation. TD is excellent at what he does, and he deserves some shadow of the doubt. Don't forget Nick Polk - he is the cap guru that serves under Dimitroff. While it is TD's show, Polk is the one that keeps us out of salary cap purgatory - and need a lot of smoke-n-mirrors these days to pull that off. We are probably gonna have to keep re-working Matt Ryan's deal to keep opening up cap space in the next few years. RedandBlack4ever, Cheap Talk, athell and 6 others 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 32,624 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, g-dawg said: Don't forget Nick Polk - he is the cap guru that serves under Dimitroff. While it is TD's show, Polk is the one that keeps us out of salary cap purgatory - and need a lot of smoke-n-mirrors these days to pull that off. We are probably gonna have to keep re-working Matt Ryan's deal to keep opening up cap space in the next few years. There are always moves to be made bro. I have faith. Ergo Proxy, Pacific_Falcon and g-dawg 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaBoyz 2,396 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 So glad we’re looking to lock up our core defensive players rather than paying a WR more $ that’s already on a deal . @FalconsIn2020 I said the other day . Jarrett, Debo than Julio . TD is showing me something .. not that I’m anybody but I value our young core more than any other player . I like it . Chitown2ATL_Falcon and FalconsIn2012 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, GeorgiaBoyz said: So glad we’re looking to lock up our core defensive players rather than paying a WR more $ that’s already on a deal . @FalconsIn2020 I said the other day . Jarrett, Debo than Julio . TD is showing me something .. not that I’m anybody but I value our young core more than any other player . I like it . We are at 22 million in CAP space now. Interested to see how TD divides it up between the 3 and how much is rolled over Ergo Proxy, Chitown2ATL_Falcon and GeorgiaBoyz 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaBoyz 2,396 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, FalconsIn2020 said: We are at 22 million in CAP space now. Interested to see how TD divides it up between the 3 and how much is rolled over 22 mil under .. sweet ! Should be more than enough cheese to get both Jones’s done . FalconsIn2012 and PokerSteve 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Architect 759 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Are we sure it's Deion Jones? Rap said Julio Jones and Schefter said Deion Jones lol. Hopefully both. athell and Chitown2ATL_Falcon 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 32,624 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, The Architect said: Are we sure it's Deion Jones? Rap said Julio Jones and Schefter said Deion Jones lol. Hopefully both. boffadem papachaz, slick0ne, Flying Falcon and 6 others 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, The Architect said: Are we sure it's Deion Jones? Rap said Julio Jones and Schefter said Deion Jones lol. Hopefully both. Both are a done deal in the next week. The Architect, Ergo Proxy, Chitown2ATL_Falcon and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,793 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 The CAP man yet still folks worry about this when all in all who cares. Move your attention to the draft if your going to worry about something worry about future drafts.As long as we draft well the cap becomes less and less of an issue. Im waiting for a lot to realise this. athell 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vel 32,291 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, FalconsIn2020 said: We are at 22 million in CAP space now. Interested to see how TD divides it up between the 3 and how much is rolled over We'll probably slot in around $15MM. That $22MM isn't taking into account Grady's hit, it just removed his tag. Still, a good chunk of money with Julio's deal coming to free up more too. kiwifalcon, Ergo Proxy and PokerSteve 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shock 2,290 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, The Legendary SB said: Is there room to sign both Julio and Deion Jones? The 2020 and 2021 caps are gonna be upside down. The Cap is increasing ~$10 million a season these next two years. I think we’ll be fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, vel said: We'll probably slot in around $15MM. That $22MM isn't taking into account Grady's hit, it just removed his tag. Still, a good chunk of money with Julio's deal coming to free up more too. That’s what I am saying. How will we split the 23 between Grady & The Jones’s I’d just give all 3 an 8 million CAP hit for 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vel 32,291 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, FalconsIn2020 said: That’s what I am saying. How will we split the 23 between Grady & The Jones’s I’d just give all 3 an 8 million CAP hit for 2019 No. Grady will be a new hit, around $8MMish. Julio's is already accounted for on the cap, so if anything his will go down. And Debo's isn't changing, his deal would be an extension. So after the Julio deal, that cap space is all free cap that they probably intend to roll over. shock, wnyfalconfan, kiwifalcon and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PK Manley 5,435 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 If Debo gets the same overall as Grady, it would almost definitely be an extension since he has a year left. It would be 4 years, $68 million in new money, but effectively about 5 years, $70 million going forward. I figure they would probably raise his cap hit a bit for this year from the ~$1.5 million it currently is. I'd say add another $5 million this year for Debo and his contract would be very reasonable in future years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, vel said: No. Grady will be a new hit, around $8MMish. Julio's is already accounted for on the cap, so if anything his will go down. And Debo's isn't changing, his deal would be an extension. So after the Julio deal, that cap space is all free cap that they probably intend to roll over. You don’t think they will want to assume some of Debo’s contract this year while we have the CAP? Let’s say Julio drops to 10, Grady is 8, that leaves 5-6 million we could add on to Debo’s 1.8 mill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 15,761 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, vel said: No. Grady will be a new hit, around $8MMish. Julio's is already accounted for on the cap, so if anything his will go down. And Debo's isn't changing, his deal would be an extension. So after the Julio deal, that cap space is all free cap that they probably intend to roll over. Trade for clowney, let Beasley walk next year. Recoup traded pick. Dream world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vel 32,291 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, FalconsIn2020 said: You don’t think they will want to assume much of Debo’s CAP hit this year while we have the money. Let’s say Julio drops to 10, Grady is 8, that leaves 5-6 million we could add on to Debo’s 1.8 mill If he gets a signing bonus, it will go up. If anything, like you said, it's $5-6MM potentially added to his hit, but that still leaves over $10MM rolling over. Rolled over cap space is more valuable than spending it in the current year because it's paired with the cap increase that every other team gets. So as contracts continue to rise in conjunction with the rising cap, the older money has more value. Take it in terms of current contracts: Julio's contract is valuable to the team because the rising cap has lowered his contract value. The savings from Julio's contract allowed other moves to be made (i.e. overkilling on the OL). The same applies to rolled over cap space. Ergo Proxy, PokerSteve and kiwifalcon 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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