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Am I wrong for thinking that Vic Beasley would benefit the most from lining up in a wide 9 set? The reason I mention this is because I think about Cliff Avril. If I recall the Seahawks lined him up in a wide 9 set a lot and let him use his speed to cut around the tackle and he really benefited from that. Beasley is about the same size and speed is his number 1 game. If he was out wider it would make it harder for tackles to get their hands on him.

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21 hours ago, Falconsfan567 said:

Am I wrong for thinking that Vic Beasley would benefit the most from lining up in a wide 9 set? The reason I mention this is because I think about Cliff Avril. If I recall the Seahawks lined him up in a wide 9 set a lot and let him use his speed to cut around the tackle and he really benefited from that. Beasley is about the same size and speed is his number 1 game. If he was out wider it would make it harder for tackles to get their hands on him.

That’s where he was for much of last year. 

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I’ve actually changed my mind about this... Vic’s one advantage is his speed so by him lining up so wide it’s actually just creating more space/time for the tackle to step out to him.  I feel like if he would line up a little tighter he could use his first step to get around the tackle before he can unset.

the wide 9 would be more beneficial if Vic had a spin or bull rush, or anything to take advantage of the space he’s created.  I like tak lining wide because he can get around but he also has great push and the running start really helps that.

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Posted (edited)

6 minutes ago, Osiruz said:

While we are at it we need to teach Takk how to bulrush. :munch:

Dude played with a hurt shoulder all year. Hard to have a dominant bull rush with one good shoulder

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Posted (edited)

11 minutes ago, Statick said:

I think I sensed some sarcasm in that bulrush statement.

Man it apparently went over my head. I can admit when i missed something lmfao

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6 minutes ago, Statick said:

I think I sensed some sarcasm in that bulrush statement.

Should've typed it in purple :lol:.

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2 hours ago, voicefromdade said:

I’ve actually changed my mind about this... Vic’s one advantage is his speed so by him lining up so wide it’s actually just creating more space/time for the tackle to step out to him.  I feel like if he would line up a little tighter he could use his first step to get around the tackle before he can unset.

the wide 9 would be more beneficial if Vic had a spin or bull rush, or anything to take advantage of the space he’s created.  I like tak lining wide because he can get around but he also has great push and the running start really helps that.

I agree.  Keep him closer to the RT so his stunts can be quicker.  Can’t stunt all that we’ll spread too wide.  Pretty much limits you to speed

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12 hours ago, ATLSlobberKnockers said:

He lines up wide pretty often.

Yeah he's wide all the time. Two things...A. He doesn't have a counter move. B. He doesn't have the "dog" in him like all elite CONSISTENT pass rushers.

A is teachable and you hope Quinn now running the D can teach him a couple. B is up to Beasley.

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59 minutes ago, papachaz said:

I can't believe with a thread title as such, I had to scroll through and NOT find this picture posted already, man some of us are slipping!

 

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Now it all makes sense. I knew I heard a sonic boom from somewhere up in here but I couldn't figure out where it was coming from... :lol:

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11 hours ago, Falconsin2012 said:

If he developed a single counter for when the edge is sealed, dude could average 12 sacks a year

Yeah. It's pretty sad that he's been in the league 4 years now and doesn't have a single counter move.

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4 hours ago, voicefromdade said:

I’ve actually changed my mind about this... Vic’s one advantage is his speed so by him lining up so wide it’s actually just creating more space/time for the tackle to step out to him.  I feel like if he would line up a little tighter he could use his first step to get around the tackle before he can unset.

the wide 9 would be more beneficial if Vic had a spin or bull rush, or anything to take advantage of the space he’s created.  I like tak lining wide because he can get around but he also has great push and the running start really helps that.

Yeah. That actually makes sense. Give him and chance to beat the tackle before the tackle can get out of his stance. Good point.

I was just trying to figure out what Dan Quinn's plan is for him to make him earn his money this year.

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6 hours ago, droopy1592 said:

You forgot the exit pic. That’s pretty wide. 

Ah dang it, I’m disappointed in myself for forgetting that! I had another one I whipped up real quick in Photoshop and was proud of, but the board wouldn’t let me post it because it was too big. <_<

But you’re right, this is pretty wide! :lol:

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10 hours ago, Iron Saint said:

How wide we talking? This wide?

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Or maybe this wide?

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If y’all want to line him up any wider y’all going to have to extend the field out into the parking lot.

:lol:

Okay you dirty Cajun, I laughed at that. 

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I think chuck Smith said something about bringing him in more and also working on a double move.

Other than  stunts he always allows the tackle to push him outside. Not sure if its scheme or him.

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44 minutes ago, red falcon said:

I think chuck Smith said something about bringing him in more and also working on a double move.

Other than  stunts he always allows the tackle to push him outside. Not sure if its scheme or him.

I think he tries to catch stray sacks. Meaning he purposely opens himself to catch a qb running his way like he did Rodgers in 2017 when Poe ran him to his side. If he doesn’t get there initially he sits back waiting on a scramble. That’s how it always looks to me if he can’t get there. Almost like he goes into spy mode. And he’s actually caught some sacks that way. 

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1 hour ago, Iron Saint said:

Ah dang it, I’m disappointed in myself for forgetting that! I had another one I whipped up real quick in Photoshop and was proud of, but the board wouldn’t let me post it because it was too big. <_<

But you’re right, this is pretty wide! 

Dude has one job which is to rush from a wide 9, he just has short ace arms and has no counter. We can line him up in the tunnel and it would make no difference. 

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