IamFRESCO1 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 "Matt Ryan. One of the reasons Quinn could be on the hot seat this season is that the Falconshave kind of been wasting one of the better quarterback performances of all time." I read this quote in the "state of Atlanta falcons 2019" thread...and it got me thinking.... Do you think Dan is wasting Ryan's good years? AND what QB in the NFL YOU FEEL talent is being hindered/limited by coaching or bad scheme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamFRESCO1 Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 No qb in the league is held back more than Aaron Rodgers. autigerfan, ATLSlobberKnockers and shock 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMSVILLE GYM Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 33 minutes ago, IamFRESCO1 said: No qb in the league is held back more than Aaron Rodgers. Rogers is obscenely overrated. mashburn*Fibonacci, slick0ne, CrimsonFalcon and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 No. You can only really judge 3 seasons under Quinn. In two of them we were amongst the best 3 teams at seasons end. We almost never lose by more than a single score (just 6 times in first 54 games). That means we are prepared every single week. Quinn is going to spend 2019 reminding us all exactly who he is. And in the era of Belichick & Brady, there should be an asterisk next to all the other great QB’s. No other era of football had to deal with that enigma. How many titles would Manning have? Ryan would have one. McNabb & TO likely get one...and same goes for Carolina. Sorry, just threw up a bit in my mouth IamFRESCO1, Rhodaric, ATLFalcons11 and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, IamFRESCO1 said: No qb in the league is held back more than Aaron Rodgers. When you audible 40% of the plays at the LOS, it’s a form of self-sabotage. What’s the point of a gameplan if that’s A-Rod’s philosophy. IamFRESCO1, MoFalconsFan56, sandtrap and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim D'White Shoes Johnson Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Falconsin2012 said: When you audible 40% of the plays at the LOS, it’s a form of self-sabotage. What’s the point of a gameplan if that’s A-Rod’s philosophy. True, but teams hope to land a QB that can mirror A-Rod's stats since 2009. On the flip, when your defensive coordinator runs a glorified WWE Nitro scheme that has you giving away yards and points 2 years in a row like free Costco samples, then that's defensive sabotage. Flying Falcon, PokerSteve, FalconsIn2012 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 7 hours ago, IamFRESCO1 said: Do you think Dan is wasting Ryan's good years? No, he got MR to a SB. First year of Shanny was largely on MR with red zone turnovers. No coach can overcome the injuries we had last season. Ryan has had his chances...Quinn will give him another IMO. FalconsIn2012, IamFRESCO1 and Falcon from E 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caponine Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 7 hours ago, ADAMSVILLE GYM said: Rogers is obscenely overrated. Lol did u really just call Rodgers over rated ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, caponine said: Lol did u really just call Rodgers over rated ?? I won’t call him overacted, but... ”Aaron Rodgers is 0-38 when trailing entering the 4th quarter vs a winning team” Falcon from E, Malachore, MoFalconsFan56 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caponine Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, Falconsin2012 said: I won’t call him overacted, but... ”Aaron Rodgers is 0-38 when trailing entering the 4th quarter vs a winning team” Not saying the he is underrated but the last few years his team have been injury riddled. He's not the best but he is a top QB in the league. PokerSteve, IamFRESCO1 and FalconsIn2012 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, caponine said: Not saying the he is underrated but the last few years his team have been injury riddled. He's not the best but he is a top QB in the league. No doubt about that. But the GOAT conversation needs to be shelved. At this point he is #3 All Time in the Packers franchise. Falcon from E, Hurry_Up_And_Buy and MoFalconsFan56 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMSVILLE GYM Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 48 minutes ago, caponine said: Lol did u really just call Rodgers over rated ?? I 100%, certainly did. NFL has been "gas lighting" ya'll wayyy before 2016. I'm not impressed by anything he's done. He has been a consistent non issue and finger pointing chokemobile since he got his ring. The media and cool aid drinking fans cannot make me believe something different than what I see. The dude is benefiting from a delusional popularity contest. VTCrunkler and CrimsonFalcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, caponine said: Lol did u really just call Rodgers over rated ?? I wouldn't say that Rodgers is exactly overrated, he is the most efficient QB when it comes to TDs to INTs. He isn't the all-worldly clutch QB that he has been made out to be though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 10 hours ago, IamFRESCO1 said: "Matt Ryan. One of the reasons Quinn could be on the hot seat this season is that the Falconshave kind of been wasting one of the better quarterback performances of all time." I read this quote in the "state of Atlanta falcons 2019" thread...and it got me thinking.... Do you think Dan is wasting Ryan's good years? AND what QB in the NFL YOU FEEL talent is being hindered/limited by coaching or bad scheme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamFRESCO1 Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 10 hours ago, ADAMSVILLE GYM said: Rogers is obscenely overrated. I really think Nick files is over hyped... He's a system quarterback... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamFRESCO1 Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 3 hours ago, caponine said: Not saying the he is underrated but the last few years his team have been injury riddled. He's not the best but he is a top QB in the league. Rodgers has never had a big number one receiver Jordy Nelson was a nice number two made into a number one but no Superstar wideouts or running backs since Rodgers has been there nor a good offensive line cuz he's always running for his life... So Green Bay does it build a good team around him year in a year out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMSVILLE GYM Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, IamFRESCO1 said: Rodgers has never had a big number one receiver Jordy Nelson was a nice number two made into a number one but no Superstar wideouts or running backs since Rodgers has been there nor a good offensive line cuz he's always running for his life... So Green Bay does it build a good team around him year in a year out Gas light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardCNile Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 DQ wasted 2 years by hiring an OC with no recent NFL experience as OC or OC apprentice. The Sark experiment will go down as a complete failure. egoprime II, falconticket, VTCrunkler and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamFRESCO1 Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 2 hours ago, ADAMSVILLE GYM said: Just now, RichardCNile said: DQ wasted 2 years by hiring an OC with no recent NFL experience as OC or OC apprentice. The Sark experiment will go down as a complete failure. Total agreeance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, RichardCNile said: DQ wasted 2 years by hiring an OC with no recent NFL experience as OC or OC apprentice. The Sark experiment will go down as a complete failure. I can only lay 2017 on Sark. Injuries derailed 2018. Definitely wasted a plausible SB in 2017, though RichardCNile and Atl Falcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atl Falcon Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) Whatever yall think, but where does TD come in the mix during the Matt Ryan great - prime - good enough QB to win a SB? Who’s responsible for finding the final pieces to the puzzle to win it all? How close are we going into this yr? What did or has TD done to find a pass rush and put together a dominant DL? Matt and Julio are a big part of this SB window. A great GM would give us that opportunity while the window’s open. We can’t blame DQ for everything, maybe hiring Sark and not overruling Shanny to run the ball in the SB. Oh yeah the jury’s still out on the Beasley and his 13m this yr. My point is don’t put all of it on DQ. TD needs to do what a great not good GM would do and add the finishing touches before we all look back and say woulda coulda shoulda. Edited June 30, 2019 by Atl Falcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnrealfalcoN Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 5 hours ago, IamFRESCO1 said: Rodgers has never had a big number one receiver Jordy Nelson was a nice number two made into a number one but no Superstar wideouts or running backs since Rodgers has been there nor a good offensive line cuz he's always running for his life... So Green Bay does it build a good team around him year in a year out I thought elite QBs are supposed to carry teams to the SB regardless of what goes around the rest of the team. At least that's the excuse given when Matt Ryan couldn't carry his bottom feeding defense for a decade. ADAMSVILLE GYM and Geneaut 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMSVILLE GYM Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 5 hours ago, RichardCNile said: DQ wasted 2 years by hiring an OC with no recent NFL experience as OC or OC apprentice. The Sark experiment will go down as a complete failure. I agree with this. THAT was a waste of Ryan's talent and time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTCrunkler Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 5 hours ago, RichardCNile said: DQ wasted 2 years by hiring an OC with no recent NFL experience as OC or OC apprentice. The Sark experiment will go down as a complete failure. agreed. there had to be better out there IamFRESCO1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconBlood Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, IamFRESCO1 said: "Matt Ryan. One of the reasons Quinn could be on the hot seat this season is that the Falconshave kind of been wasting one of the better quarterback performances of all time." I read this quote in the "state of Atlanta falcons 2019" thread...and it got me thinking.... Do you think Dan is wasting Ryan's good years? AND what QB in the NFL YOU FEEL talent is being hindered/limited by coaching or bad scheme? This quote has some truth to it Edited July 1, 2019 by FalconBlood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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