wnyfalconfan Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I did some research to see who what type of improvement we might see with Quinn calling the defense all season. Here's what I found. Richard Smith- 28 games- 44 sacks and 36 takeaways. He averaged 1.28 takeaways per game and 1.57 sacks per game Marquand Manuel- 32 games- 76 sacks and 38 takeaways. He averaged 1.1875 takeaways per game and 2.375 sacks per game Dan Quinn- 7 games(3 playoff games)- 19 sacks and 15 takeaways. He averaged 2.143 takeaways per game and 2.714 sacks per game Do the math and you'll see that over 16 games the Falcons would have 44 sacks and 34 takeaways. The league average for sacks in 2018 was 40. So just above average. Takeaways is a different story. The league average in 2018 was 21. 34 takeaways would have put the Falcons behind only the Bears who had 36. If you do the average of 34 and 21 you get 28. Interestingly that would put the Falcons in a 4 way tie for the 5th most takeaways in 2018. I think it's important to remember, Quinn had 4 rookies and Jalen Collins starting for him when he was calling plays in 2016. Foye, Oliver and Senat will be the young players this time. All three showed flashes last year so it will be interesting to see how much improvement they show from year 1 to 2. Plus how are Keanu Neal and Ricardo Allen going to look. Both are important to the success of the defense enginerd, hashmark61, Chitown2ATL_Falcon and 14 others 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droopy1592 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I’m ready for a Quinn called defense. 408Falcon, wnyfalconfan, Emmitt and 13 others 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick0ne Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, wnyfalconfan said: I did some research to see who what type of improvement we might see with Quinn calling the defense all season. Here's what I found. Richard Smith- 28 games- 44 sacks and 36 takeaways. He averaged 1.28 takeaways per game and 1.57 sacks per game Marquand Manuel- 32 games- 76 sacks and 38 takeaways. He averaged 1.1875 takeaways per game and 2.375 sacks per game Dan Quinn- 7 games(3 playoff games)- 19 sacks and 15 takeaways. He averaged 2.143 takeaways per game and 2.714 sacks per game Do the math and you'll see that over 16 games the Falcons would have 44 sacks and 34 takeaways. The league average for sacks in 2018 was 40. So just above average. Takeaways is a different story. The league average in 2018 was 21. 34 takeaways would have put the Falcons behind only the Bears who had 36. If you do the average of 34 and 21 you get 28. Interestingly that would put the Falcons in a 4 way tie for the 5th most takeaways in 2018. I think it's important to remember, Quinn had 4 rookies and Jalen Collins starting for him when he was calling plays in 2016. Foye, Oliver and Senat will be the young players this time. All three showed flashes last year so it will be interesting to see how much improvement they show from year 1 to 2. Plus how are Keanu Neal and Ricardo Allen going to look. Both are important to the success of the defense Nice research, Man. Just with the eye test you can see guys flying around more with Quinn in charge. wnyfalconfan, dawgsfan426, MasterBateser and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red falcon Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Thanks for researching brother. There is a lot of optimism sounding this season. Last yearcwqs such a let down wnyfalconfan, MasterBateser, TheFatboi and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons Fan MVP Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I hope Quinn calls the defense for more than just one season MasterBateser, hashmark61 and wnyfalconfan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith2001 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Great analysis @wnyfalconfan. While I am happy that DQ will be calling the D, I still hold him accountable for what went on when the other guys were calling plays on his behalf. Hope our stats look great but I just want to win and get that ring. Tim Mazetti, wnyfalconfan, Cole World and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyfalconfan Posted June 23, 2019 Author Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, droopy1592 said: I’m ready for a Quinn called defense. Same. I wish he had been doing it since 2015 ShadyRef 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyfalconfan Posted June 23, 2019 Author Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, slick0ne said: Nice research, Man. Just with the eye test you can see guys flying around more with Quinn in charge. Thanks. I think the defense really does have a chip on their shoulders. Plus Quinn seems a bit salty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyfalconfan Posted June 23, 2019 Author Share Posted June 23, 2019 41 minutes ago, red falcon said: Thanks for researching brother. There is a lot of optimism sounding this season. Last yearcwqs such a let down You're welcome. I've got my fingers crossed for some good things this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyfalconfan Posted June 23, 2019 Author Share Posted June 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, Falcons Fan MVP said: I hope Quinn calls the defense for more than just one season I 100% agree. He should have been doing it since 2015 Falcons Fan MVP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTCrunkler Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Good research but there is a fallacy in extrapolation. It would be safe to assume based on the small sample size that a DQ let d would be more productive and I think it can be. Better than the others for sure. But if you took Vic’s sack total from 2016 and extrapolated it to the next two seasons he would be in the 40 s. Instead he only got 11 more for the following two season. Stryka and ShadyRef 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyfalconfan Posted June 23, 2019 Author Share Posted June 23, 2019 35 minutes ago, Monolith2001 said: Great analysis @wnyfalconfan. While I am happy that DQ will be calling the D, I still hold him accountable for what went on when the other guys were calling plays on his behalf. Hope our stats look great but I just want to win and get that ring. Thanks. I don't blame you one bit for holding him accountable. He's made some odd decisions since he was hired. Hopefully we get that ring in the near future Vandy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyfalconfan Posted June 23, 2019 Author Share Posted June 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, VTCrunkler said: Good research but there is a fallacy in extrapolation. It would be safe to assume based on the small sample size that a DQ let d would be more productive and I think it can be. Better than the others for sure. But if you took Vic’s sack total from 2016 and extrapolated it to the next two seasons he would be in the 40 s. Instead he only got 11 more for the following two season. Thanks. I understand what you're saying and I should have made more of an effort to explain that I don't think the Falcons are going to achieve those numbers. Especially not 34 takeaways. VTCrunkler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterBateser Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Good post my dude. I do think we'll see a better defense this year. Maybe not the dominating defense I, @Knight of God, and @Vandy want but a defense that does create turnovers and gets the offense the ball back. JD dirtybird21, VTCrunkler, Chitown2ATL_Falcon and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spts1 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 no more excuses this season... wnyfalconfan, papachaz, MasterBateser and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red falcon Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, slickgadawg said: no more excuses this season... Bout with you bro. Should have everything we need. Chitown2ATL_Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTCrunkler Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 35 minutes ago, wnyfalconfan said: Thanks. I understand what you're saying and I should have made more of an effort to explain that I don't think the Falcons are going to achieve those numbers. Especially not 34 takeaways. Good post nonetheless! MasterBateser and wnyfalconfan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, VTCrunkler said: Good research but there is a fallacy in extrapolation. It would be safe to assume based on the small sample size that a DQ let d would be more productive and I think it can be. Better than the others for sure. But if you took Vic’s sack total from 2016 and extrapolated it to the next two seasons he would be in the 40 s. Instead he only got 11 more for the following two season. I don’t think the fallacy is that as much as not acknowledging that when Quinn was calling the defense it was on the other side of one of the greatest offenses of all time. Other teams had to play catch up so they became one dimensional. In the instances where the Falcons offense would keep putting up points the other team would make mistakes. In the instances where it couldn’t... the defense fell apart fairly quickly. I think the defense will be better but I’m not expecting a dominating unit. wnyfalconfan, VTCrunkler and Chitown2ATL_Falcon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyfalconfan Posted June 24, 2019 Author Share Posted June 24, 2019 35 minutes ago, Yo_Lover said: Good post my dude. I do think we'll see a better defense this year. Maybe not the dominating defense I, @Knight of God, and @Vandy want but a defense that does create turnovers and gets the offense the ball back. Thanks. I'm excited to see what tweaks Quinn is doing to the defense. Hopefully it's some things that help create more takeaways Vandy and MasterBateser 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 12 hours ago, Monolith2001 said: Great analysis @wnyfalconfan. While I am happy that DQ will be calling the D, I still hold him accountable for what went on when the other guys were calling plays on his behalf. Hope our stats look great but I just want to win and get that ring. Same here mono. DQ doesn’t get a pass for that cluster-**** of a defense falcons put out there last season. Cole World, MasterBateser and FalconsIn2012 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki46dinah Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 To be fair too...although the stats are a small sampling, they are against mostly playoff teams. wnyfalconfan, gazoo and VTCrunkler 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithful Falcon Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 As long as he has someone to help him manage the clock, we'll be fine. VTCrunkler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTCrunkler Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: I don’t think the fallacy is that as much as not acknowledging that when Quinn was calling the defense it was on the other side of one of the greatest offenses of all time. Other teams had to play catch up so they became one dimensional. In the instances where the Falcons offense would keep putting up points the other team would make mistakes. In the instances where it couldn’t... the defense fell apart fairly quickly. I think the defense will be better but I’m not expecting a dominating unit. That’s a good point. The opponents were often forced to play catch up and therefore became more predictable. And weren’t exactly amazing until the playoffs. I mean holding GB to 0 points and the pats to 3 first half points were pretty good. Faithful Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atl Falcon Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 5 hours ago, droopy1592 said: I’m ready for a Quinn called defense. We gon see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rest.Is.Coming Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Vandy said: Same here mono. DQ doesn’t get s pass for that cluster-**** of a defense falcons put out there last season. Only place to look now is in the mirror...no more tryna deflect Vandy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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