Quiksilverly Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Here is the article on the three surprising potential cuts from the Falcons. I will have to say watching Duke Riley for the last 2 years I can't see that one being a surprise. I'm not surprised that Grace is outplaying him either. https://thefalconswire.usatoday.com/2019/06/13/falcons-surprise-cuts-2019-duke-riley/?fbclid=IwAR15tuuzq7m1vJvLNpFkYB2AAnvZGjhwABEBJwVDkFhtJlv9FGEA8ASLQRA Anyone here think Duke wasn't a bust? red falcon and Cheap Talk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTCrunkler Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 All these guys are potential special teams players. And probably where they should be at this point. PokerSteve, mashburn*Fibonacci and Ezekiel 25:17 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeg272 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Ish is the only one that would surprise me at all this year of those 3 PokerSteve, mashburn*Fibonacci, shock and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, Quiksilverly said: Here is the article on the three surprising potential cuts from the Falcons. I will have to say watching Duke Riley for the last 2 years I can't see that one being a surprise. I'm not surprised that Grace is outplaying him either. https://thefalconswire.usatoday.com/2019/06/13/falcons-surprise-cuts-2019-duke-riley/?fbclid=IwAR15tuuzq7m1vJvLNpFkYB2AAnvZGjhwABEBJwVDkFhtJlv9FGEA8ASLQRA Anyone here think Duke wasn't a bust? Meh, Grace outplayed Riley all during 2017 training camp as well. Drew4719, Ezekiel 25:17, Pacific_Falcon and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 3rd rounders are not busts Pacific_Falcon, NeonDeion, Dem Birds and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geneaut Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Hardy and Ishmael are in the bad position of not being full-time every down starters, and having to compete against younger guys on rookie deals while they are on their 2nd contracts. Ezekiel 25:17, Stryka, Drew4719 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droopy1592 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, mikeg272 said: Ish is the only one that would surprise me at all this year of those 3 He’s looked more and more out of shape lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff_Man Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Geneaut said: Hardy and Ishmael are in the bad position of not being full-time every down starters, and having to compete against younger guys on rookie deals while they are on their 2nd contracts. Ishmael is a tough cut because he is cheap ($895k) and can play multiple positions. Hardy is even cheaper and has backup and special teams value. So I guess, yeah either of these would be a surprise (to me anyways). Geneaut, papachaz, Stryka and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 No one could possibly be surprised if Riley is told to hit the bricks. MD-FalconFan13, ⚡Slumerican⚡, Dr Long Shot and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 doubt duke gets cut, its too soon to quit on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtldirtybird Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 hours ago, falconsd56 said: 3rd rounders are not busts he is because he can't play worth a lick MD-FalconFan13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, mtldirtybird said: he is because he can't play worth a lick Which is most 3rd rounders. gtech1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgsjw Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 29 minutes ago, falconsd56 said: Which is most 3rd rounders. But the problem is the Falcons reached on Duke which makes it even worse. Chitown2ATL_Falcon and Diggable Birds 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, dawgsjw said: But the problem is the Falcknow if ons reached on Duke which makes it even worse. No it doesn't. You do not know if it were a reach or not. Tim Mazetti 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geneaut Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 55 minutes ago, falconsd56 said: No it doesn't. You do not know if it were a reach or not. It certainly looks like one at this point. 3rd rounders are usually intended to be groomed for starting positions. That said the draft is not a science, and Duke had some measurables that I am sure Quinn thought he could mold something out of. It didn't happen, and I don't judge Quinn/TD harshly for it because that same mindset got us players like Debo, Foye, and Kazee. MD-FalconFan13 and Tim Mazetti 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, falconsd56 said: Which is most 3rd rounders. I wouldn’t go that far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: I wouldn’t go that far. To me anything past 2nd is a crap shoot. Even in the first or second it is a crap shoot....but by the third generally every one has passed on a guy atleast twice. When everyone has passed on you twice.....in sone cases more....can you really be considered a bust if you do not play well?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, falconsd56 said: To me anything past 2nd is a crap shoot. Even in the first or second it is a crap shoot....but by the third generally every one has passed on a guy atleast twice. When everyone has passed on you twice.....in sone cases more....can you really be considered a bust if you do not play well?? The draft is a crap shoot period. But to say most 3rd rounders can’t play worth a lick is a plain lie. In today’s nfl, most 3rd rounders are starting. Tim Mazetti and FalconFanSince1970 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 43 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: The draft is a crap shoot period. But to say most 3rd rounders can’t play worth a lick is a plain lie. In today’s nfl, most 3rd rounders are starting. Duke started too......does not mean he was any good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, falconsd56 said: Duke started too......does not mean he was any good. Yeah duke started for a reason. That’s a horrible example on your behalf. Again, saying 3rd rounders can’t play is a bold face lie. Tim Mazetti and Tmodel66 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red falcon Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Cuts sound about right to me. Ish is getting old, not sure what hardy brings to the team besides blocking. Has great hands but struggles to get open or at least get on the field. Duke has struggles that many are aware of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mazetti Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Gotta think that this a good roster to cut Ish, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Instead of getting caught up in definitions, isn’t it easier to just say Duke was a bad pick; at least until now? What hurt was we moved up for Takk and really needed Duke to make up for that cost. The silver lining is we only needed a 6th rounder (Foye) to replace what Duke should’ve been; just missed on others by taking Duke where we did. That said, it happens to every single team; regardless of the round. PS: A bust is a pick with huge expectations and invested in with higher resources; first rounder etc. I think a 3rd rounder is just a bad pick if it doesn’t work out. Vandy and Tim Mazetti 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atl Falcon Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just keep the best cut the rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonDeion Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 16 hours ago, octoslash said: No one could possibly be surprised if Riley is told to hit the bricks. More like surprise birthday party cut where everyone pretends to be surprised and excited even tho they know it’s coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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