FalconFanSince1970 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Tomorrow night's draft will be exciting for Hawks fans. We can add some nice pieces to a solid young nucleus. Currently sitting on five picks. 8, 10, 17, 35 and 41. We'll likely draft two to four players and make some trades. I expect some head scratching picks we make for other teams. Pop your popcorn. In my opinion our needs are small forward, center, back up point guard and shooting guard. In that order. I think our weaknesses are defense, rebounding, turnovers and shooting. The last five championship teams were top 5 in offense and defense. We were 12th in offense and 30th in defense in 2018. Here's my first round Hawks Big Board. It's based on only stats and tape. I don't have any character intel. I'm higher on Nickeil, Bol, KZ and Porter than most. Post yours. Not how you see the draft going, but the order of available players you'd take when we're on the clock. Whether we trade up or down: Zion Williamson Ja Morant R.J. Barrett De'Andre Hunter Jarrett Culver Cam Reddish Coby White Sekou Doumbouya Darius Garland Jaxson Hayes Nickeil Alexander-Walker Goga Bitadze Bol Bol Rui Hachimura Kevin Porter Jr. KZ Okpala Tyler Herro Chuma Okeke Bruno Fernando Brandon Clarke Nassir Little PJ Washington Keldon Johnson Grant Williams Romeo Langford Talen Horton-Tucker Cameron Johnson Dylan Windler Nicolas Claxton Carsen Edwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayu70 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 #8 - Culver/Reddish #10 - Sekou/Hunter #17 - Goga #35 - Claxton #41 - a PG g-dawg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbigdog35 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 8. Culver/Hunter 10. Sekou/Reddish 17. Goga/Herro 35. Clarke/PJ Washington 41. Ky Bowman (PG) backup pg candidate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOR Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Zion Culver Varying levels of WOR disappointment Mariana Trench Rui Hachimura. FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FalconsIn2012 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 I am loving the latest ESPN mock. Hunter, Hayes and Walker would be an athletic haul that would really, really help us defensively. My dream scenario: Find a way to get Culver & Hunter in the 1st 8 picks. Culver, Hunter & Hayes are all versatile, athletic and B+ defensive players that compensate for Trae on that side of the floor But after watching more Hayes highlights, I’m good with the ESPN mock. Running option pick & roll with Trae using either Hayes or Collins would be sick. If Trae opts to use Collins pick, Hayes looks to clean up any missed shot with a rim rocking dunk. We would be the most athletic starting 5 VTCrunkler and mqg96 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WOR Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Okpala over both Chuma and Clarke is certainly a take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 The first play is all I need to see. Rim protector, athletic, pick & roll nightmare with Trae throwing the dimes. Culver/Hunter at 8, Hayes at #10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 49 minutes ago, WOR said: Okpala over both Chuma and Clarke is certainly a take. I like buddy. Most have him late in the first, but depending on who's on the board, I'd take him as high as our 17th if we keep it. Pretty raw but has a lot of upside in my opinion. Could definitely play on my team. 6'10 wing that can penetrate and shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spts1 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Culver, Fernando. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, slickgadawg said: Culver, Fernando. You could possibly get Bruno in the 2nd round if me makes it past SA at 27th Think I prefer Claxton in mid-20’s if we opt to not grab Hayes at 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Falconsin2012 said: I am loving the latest ESPN mock. Hunter, Hayes and Walker would be an athletic haul that would really, really help us defensively. My dream scenario: Find a way to get Culver & Hunter in the 1st 8 picks. Culver, Hunter & Collins are all versatile, athletic and B+ defensive players that compensate for Trae on that side of the floor But after watching more Hayes highlights, I’m good with the ESPN mock. Running option pick & roll with Trae using either Hayes or Collins would be sick. If Trae opts to use Collins pick, Hayes looks to clean up any missed shot with a rim rocking dunk. We would be the most athletic starting 5 Collins is not a B+ defender. Not sure where you got that from. He’s one of the worst defensive rated Forwards in the NBA. Really hoping he can evolve into at least an average defender. He should be able to once we settle into this rebuild. FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Beef said: Collins is not a B+ defender. Not sure where you got that from. He’s one of the worst defensive rated Forwards in the NBA. Really hoping he can evolve into at least an average defender. He should be able to once we settle into this rebuild. Sorry, that was meant to be Hayes who will be very solid at Center. We should draft a defensive minded PF to backup Collins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spts1 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, Falconsin2012 said: You could possibly get Bruno in the 2nd round if me makes it past SA at 27th Think I prefer Claxton in mid-20’s if we opt to not grab Hayes at 10 I don't like anything about Claxton's game. Jaxson Hayes showed out against him and georgia: FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, slickgadawg said: I don't like anything about Claxton's game. Jaxson Hayes showed out against him and georgia: Hayes is the class of the center position and my current crush for the Hawks at the 10 spot. Starting to hope we stay put and build a defensive minded draft by taking Hunter and Hayes...then MT in the 2nd Spts1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Falconsin2012 said: Sorry, that was meant to be Hayes who will be very solid at Center. We should draft a defensive minded PF to backup Collins Ah okay. Spellman is supposed to be that backup PF. My issue with Hayes is we have no clue if he can shoot. We can’t have two guys who’s only ability is to flood the paint off the pick and roll. Whatever Center we run has to be able to step out off the pick and drop perimeter buckets. Otherwise there won’t be any open lanes in the paint. And Collins and Trae already have an awesome chemistry with Collins going inside. I don’t want to mess that up. This is why I think Goga is probably the better fit. And he is a good rim protector and screener. Hayes is young and really raw, though. Tons of potential. I bet he could develop an outside shot too, so I wouldn’t be bent if we selected him. FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 24 minutes ago, Beef said: Ah okay. Spellman is supposed to be that backup PF. My issue with Hayes is we have no clue if he can shoot. We can’t have two guys who’s only ability is to flood the paint off the pick and roll. Whatever Center we run has to be able to step out off the pick and drop perimeter buckets. Otherwise there won’t be any open lanes in the paint. And Collins and Trae already have an awesome chemistry with Collins going inside. I don’t want to mess that up. This is why I think Goga is probably the better fit. And he is a good rim protector and screener. Hayes is young and really raw, though. Tons of potential. I bet he could develop an outside shot too, so I wouldn’t be bent if we selected him. We know he really can’t shoot. But IMO we don’t need him to. Protect the rim, run pick/roll & and clean up weak side offensive boards. Add 20 lbs and develop a 12-15 foot shot. Scoring isn’t going to be a problem for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEORGIAfan Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 8: 10: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Beef said: Ah okay. Spellman is supposed to be that backup PF. My issue with Hayes is we have no clue if he can shoot. We can’t have two guys who’s only ability is to flood the paint off the pick and roll. Whatever Center we run has to be able to step out off the pick and drop perimeter buckets. Otherwise there won’t be any open lanes in the paint. And Collins and Trae already have an awesome chemistry with Collins going inside. I don’t want to mess that up. This is why I think Goga is probably the better fit. And he is a good rim protector and screener. Hayes is young and really raw, though. Tons of potential. I bet he could develop an outside shot too, so I wouldn’t be bent if we selected him. You have the same problems i do with Hayes as fit wise he is the one center in the top 15 to 20 players who really doesn't mesh with what we do. Coach LP has said numerous of times that he wants his Center to stretch to the 3 point line and be able to hit that at a descent clip to open things up. You seen Dedmon and Len do this a ton last year and it made our offense dangerous and run extremely well. Also like you i see Goga as a guy that can do that but Bol Bol is a monster at it to and has the most upside of any center in this draft probably. Clarke can as well but not to the extent of a Goga or Bol Bol i don't think. Hayes reminds me of a Clint Capela type of center which is a very good player but not sure if it's the best fit for our team and schemes. Im not gonna complain if we take the dude as i do like him but will for sure leave me scratching my head as to why based on exactly what they said out of their own mouths about the center position lol. Beef and FalconsIn2012 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 hours ago, GEORGIAfan said: 8: 10: My guy i like what you have chosen there i would be a big fan of Reddish and Bol Bol as the Hawks 2 picks at 8 and 10. Although another move i would like to do instead is look at Center in Free Agency or bring back Dedmon for a few years while using 10 and 17 to move up for say 6 or 7 then taking Hunter or Culver there then taking Reddish at 8. A Hunter/Culver + Reddish draft would be pretty awesome imo. FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, FalconFan13 said: My guy i like what you have chosen there i would be a big fan of Reddish and Bol Bol as the Hawks 2 picks at 8 and 10. Although another move i would like to do instead is look at Center in Free Agency or bring back Dedmon for a few years while using 10 and 17 to move up for say 6 or 7 then taking Hunter or Culver there then taking Reddish at 8. A Hunter/Culver + Reddish draft would be pretty awesome imo. Move up in 2nd round to grab either Bruno or Claxton if they make it past SA or GSW. Also love MT in 2nd round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Falconsin2012 said: Move up in 2nd round to grab either Bruno or Claxton if they make it past SA or GSW. Also love MT in 2nd round Im down with that move to as well to add to that haul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) Zion Williamson Ja Morant R.J. Barrett Jarrett Culver De'Andre Hunter Darius Garland Coby White Brandon Clarke Goga Bitadze Jaxson Hayes Sekou Doumbouya PJ Washington Tyler Herro Bruno Fernando Cam Reddish KZ Okpala Nickeil Alexander-Walker Chuma Okeke Matisse Thybulle Rui Hachimura Grant Williams Cam Johnson Keldon Johnson Bol Bol Nassir Little Dylan Windler Kevin Porter Jr. Talen Horton-Tucker Nicolas Claxton Romeo Langford Edited June 20, 2019 by Beef FalconFanSince1970 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 @g-dawg @FalconFanSince1970 @WOR @jayu70 Is Coby White the monster in this draft people are overlooking? I just watched his last 8 games and am stunned he isn’t the consensus #2 pick. He and Trae are not ideal defensively, but good lord the speed, range & ability to shoot off the dribble would be akin to the Splash Brothers FalconFanSince1970 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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