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Atlanta Falcons wide receiver Julio Jones and defensive end Vic Beasley have stayed clear of voluntary organized team activities.

But for the three-day minicamp on June 11-13, the duo is required to be present given the mandatory nature.

Falcons head coach Dan Quinn said Wednesday that Jones and Beasley will attend the minicamp, via Jeff Schultz of The Athletic.

When it comes to defensive tackle Grady Jarrett, who signed his franchise tender on April 22, Quinn indicated a level of expectation that Jarrett will report.

"I anticipate he will," Quinn told Schultz. "He hasn't told me he's not."

Jarrett and the Falcons have until July 15 to work out a long-term deal or the defensive tackle will play the 2019 season under the one-year franchise tag, which pays $15.2 million.

Meanwhile, the Falcons and Jones' representative have been working since the offseason on reworking the two-time All-Pro's deal. General manager Thomas Dimitroff previously said in March that the two sides have enjoyed "really good conversations" as they look to take care of Jones, who has two years remaining on his current deal.

Falcons owner Arthur Blank to ESPN on Wednesday that he isn't concerned about getting deals done for key players like Jones, Garrett and linebacker Deion Jones.

"We have a salary cap, we have limits, that we have to think about not only today but tomorrow, and we have to balance all that off," Blank told ESPN. "But these are three great young men that we care deeply about, both personally and professionally. They are going to be Falcons for life.

"I'm not worried about getting the deals done. I'm speaking on behalf of Atlanta and Atlanta fans. Thomas [Dimitroff] is working hard to get them done. Coach [Dan] Quinn is supportive as well. It will happen. It's just a matter of when."

Beasley enters the final year of his contact, which pays a base salary of $12.8 million.

Ultimately, players now have financial motivation to attend a mandatory minicamp regardless how they fell about their current contract situation.

A player is subject to fines if they miss any of the three days of minicamp without an excused absence. According to the collective bargaining agreement, a team can levy fines in the amount of $14,775 for missing the first day, $29,550 for the second day and $44,325 for the third day. In total, a player could be fined $88,650 for missing all three days.

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I do wish AB would let TD handle that stuff along with input from DQ. Maybe they (TD DQ) don’t believe their demands justify being Falcons for life and could possibly have better long term plans. It’s like it gives the players leverage when AB makes those comments. However AB owns the team and can do wtf he wants to lol

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Weren't they confident 4 months ago? And em a couple months before that? And wasn't Julio contact shots to be changed airway, I mean they talked about that as an agreement last year. 

....... I'll retain from seeing anything else. Except this is stupid in how long it's taking. And we've missed out on signing important pieces who could have helped us like Houston and McCoy. 

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With Ryan Schrader being cut and us having a lil more flexibility in cap we will hear news soon about Julio’s improved deal. We won’t be able to focus on Grady Jarrett till next year but this is honestly our last shot at being able to win a Super Bowl, TD is doing everything in his power to hold this team together long enough for us to get a ring and we won’t be able to hold it together much longer.

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1 hour ago, Macintez said:

With Ryan Schrader being cut and us having a lil more flexibility in cap we will hear news soon about Julio’s improved deal. We won’t be able to focus on Grady Jarrett till next year but this is honestly our last shot at being able to win a Super Bowl, TD is doing everything in his power to hold this team together long enough for us to get a ring and we won’t be able to hold it together much longer.

I just hope we aren't going to go through this every year.  JJ needs to settle on a contract and show the **** up for OTA's.

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15 hours ago, athell said:

In before the butthurt fans who focus on fAlCoNs FeR lYfE?!  tHeRe GoEs OuR cAp!!

So let me ask, since I guess I am one of those butthurt fans.  What do we do when we sign all these guys to max contracts and one gets injured or has a bad year?  Since they are going to be Falcons for Life and that is the priority, as insinuated by the CEO, what do we do when we have 15, 20, 25 million tied up in dead money and/or underperforming players?  What do we do if say Neal goes down again with another ACL and say JJ breaks a foot or tears a hammy?  Then we have two gapping holes, no cap and we have no way to compensate.  Usually, when these things happen, there will be a couple of years of bad football to watch.

So, you are totally okay without even considering maybe trading a player in his prime, for maybe a first round pick, to clear up cap space and get a new young stud with the team?  That option is totally off the board in your opinion?

I'm not going to argue my point at all, since I am butthurt.  I'm just curious as to how you suggest we keep this team competitive when the average NFL lifespan for all players (except QB's) is less than 4 years?  Since we are going to end up giving or have given Ryan, JJ, Free, Grady, Neal, the other Jones and Vic pretty much top money, how do you plan on funding other players when one or two go down and our Cap is locked with dead money for three or four years and we can't move them?  Odds are, at least one, if not more of those guys gets injured or performance really drops over the first year or two of their contract.  Free has already regressed (I know, the last two years were flukes and he will come back and lead the league in rushing this year, right???) and True is not that good.  Is it completely out of consideration for you to consider maybe trading JJ or Grady for some high picks and Cap relief, or is it more important to see your boys get paid?

Just curious as to how you would handle the inevitability of the NFL.

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3 hours ago, mashburn*Fibonacci said:

Weren't they confident 4 months ago? And em a couple months before that? And wasn't Julio contact shots to be changed airway, I mean they talked about that as an agreement last year. 

....... I'll retain from seeing anything else. Except this is stupid in how long it's taking. And we've missed out on signing important pieces who could have helped us like Houston and McCoy. 

We could have signed McCoy if we wanted.  For some reason we opted not to.  

Maybe they prefer Bailey for the new tweaks being made on the defensive side.  What are your thoughts?

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16 minutes ago, mashburn*Fibonacci said:

Next season Thomas will be the highest. Therefore Julio will complain right after that. Even if it's a few million. 

The madness has to end sometime, unless JJ just wants to do a one year contract every year.

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2 hours ago, schwarzenegger321 said:

So let me ask, since I guess I am one of those butthurt fans.  What do we do when we sign all these guys to max contracts and one gets injured or has a bad year?  Since they are going to be Falcons for Life and that is the priority, as insinuated by the CEO, what do we do when we have 15, 20, 25 million tied up in dead money and/or underperforming players?  What do we do if say Neal goes down again with another ACL and say JJ breaks a foot or tears a hammy?  Then we have two gapping holes, no cap and we have no way to compensate.  Usually, when these things happen, there will be a couple of years of bad football to watch.

So, you are totally okay without even considering maybe trading a player in his prime, for maybe a first round pick, to clear up cap space and get a new young stud with the team?  That option is totally off the board in your opinion?

I'm not going to argue my point at all, since I am butthurt.  I'm just curious as to how you suggest we keep this team competitive when the average NFL lifespan for all players (except QB's) is less than 4 years?  Since we are going to end up giving or have given Ryan, JJ, Free, Grady, Neal, the other Jones and Vic pretty much top money, how do you plan on funding other players when one or two go down and our Cap is locked with dead money for three or four years and we can't move them?  Odds are, at least one, if not more of those guys gets injured or performance really drops over the first year or two of their contract.  Free has already regressed (I know, the last two years were flukes and he will come back and lead the league in rushing this year, right???) and True is not that good.  Is it completely out of consideration for you to consider maybe trading JJ or Grady for some high picks and Cap relief, or is it more important to see your boys get paid?

Just curious as to how you would handle the inevitability of the NFL.

What do we do when we sign all these guys to max contracts and one gets injured or has a bad year? - Who said anything about max contracts?  This isn't the NBA.  And why are you assuming anyone of these guys mentioned is going to either get injured or have a bad year?

what do we do when we have 15, 20, 25 million tied up in dead money and/or underperforming players? - What under performing players?  What dead money?

What do we do if say Neal goes down again with another ACL and say JJ breaks a foot or tears a hammy? - What if they don't?

So, you are totally okay without even considering maybe trading a player in his prime, for maybe a first round pick, to clear up cap space and get a new young stud with the team? - I'm not sure if you have noticed, but normally you aren't fetching first round picks for players.  Sure you will get someone like the Cowboys who will throw 1sts, or the Bears for Mack, but that is not the norm.  Also there is no guarantee the pick turns into a stud.  There is a false correlation on these boards that picks = talent.  That is not the case.  The draft is a crapshoot.

I'm not going to argue my point at all, since I am butthurt.  I'm just curious as to how you suggest we keep this team competitive when the average NFL lifespan for all players (except QB's) is less than 4 years?  - Argue away.  These are actually legitimate questions and concerns, and I thank you for not just trolling.

how do you plan on funding other players when one or two go down and our Cap is locked with dead money for three or four years and we can't move them? - Again, who is going down and what cap is locked?  What dead money?  You are arguing numbers that don't even exist yet.

Just curious as to how you would handle the inevitability of the NFL. - I don't need to handle it.  We have a gentlemen by the name of Thomas Dimitroff who is much smarter than I and has shown, at least me, time and time again that he knows how to manage a cap and nfl talent.

In summary : You are making a lot of assumptions.  A lot of negative assumptions.  You are overvaluing picks.  You are arguing for trading for draft picks that may never be.  You are arguing against dead cap money that may never be.  I like to live in reality, not what if's.  I want this team to field the best team possible year in and year out.  I want this team to win a superbowl and multiple superbowls.  This regime has given me no reason to doubt the talent they can draft and bring in, while staying competitive both for now and the future.  With the caps raising every year, with restructures, with players coming and going, knowing we can't keep everyone, it's not as big a deal as some make it out to be.

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