youngbloodz Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Unkn0wn said: Braves have scouts watching Stroman tonight Yes sdogg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachore Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, youngbloodz said: **** no. Ian Anderson is on the same path as Mike Soroka. He has Jacob deGrom type of potential He's the only guy I'm not trading. I'll give up 3 of these other dudes for a marginal improvement. youngbloodz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just now, Malachore said: He's the only guy I'm not trading. I'll give up 3 of these other dudes for a marginal improvement. I can agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 If I had to choose between Mike Minor or Marcus Stroman give me Mike Minor. Minor has proven he can handle pitching for the Braves and his 1 postseason start is much better than Stroman's 2 postseason starts. He's also been better than Stroman this year. Give me Minor!! sdogg, Drew4719 and Born Again Georgian 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Again Georgian Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said: If I had to choose between Mike Minor or Marcus Stroman give me Mike Minor. Minor has proven he can handle pitching for the Braves and his 1 postseason start is much better than Stroman's 2 postseason starts. He's also been better than Stroman this year. Give me Minor!! I liked Minor. Time for him to come home. sdogg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 Falconsfan567, Drew4719, sdogg and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Giants have now won 7 straight games, this one thanks to the Mets dropping a fly ball. Giants are now 49-49 this season and 2 games out of the WC race. They're 14-2 in their last 16 games. I'd be pretty surprised if they sell. If they were to sell while playing their best baseball in years that fan base would riot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 LOL!!!! I just laughed my *** off!!! Steve B on the Diamondbacks broadcast!! The Rockies lost again tonight to the New York Savages!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oztin Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 10 hours ago, Unkn0wn said: First off . I know this might be a stupid question but how is that a change-up? I thought a change-up was a slightly slower fastball that dipped at the last minute? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, oztin said: First off . I know this might be a stupid question but how is that a change-up? I thought a change-up was a slightly slower fastball that dipped at the last minute? Minors changeup is a little different. It's more of a change in velocity with late side movement. Part of why it's such an issue for hitters. sdogg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 Tigers asking price for Boyd is an established young MLB player and prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tl;dr Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Anderson, Pache, and Waters are the only 3 I'm not trading. Or well, I would trade Pache or Waters if it was for a great haul, but Anderson would require someone that is just way out of reach. youngbloodz, sdogg and Drew4719 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 Phillies acquire Mike Morin from the Twins for cash. Morin had a good run in Minnesota but was DFA'd for roster space. Phillies also signed Drew Smyly to a minor league deal. Philly is also in on Minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachore Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 49 minutes ago, Unkn0wn said: Tigers asking price for Boyd is an established young MLB player and prospects. So someone like Camargo and mid tier guys or are they WAY overvaluing a guy I've never heard of until this month? Because even Camargo seems like an overpay for a guy who doesn't look any better than what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 28 minutes ago, Malachore said: So someone like Camargo and mid tier guys or are they WAY overvaluing a guy I've never heard of until this month? Because even Camargo seems like an overpay for a guy who doesn't look any better than what we have. They would laugh at that offer. Boyd is a recent breakout but hes been very good and cant be a FA till 2023. His numbers say if you put him on a better defense his ERA auto drops to 3.50. Hes a swing and miss guy that doesnt walk people so add better defense and an NL lineup and he could dip lower. Hes also a very important trade chip to the Tigers rebuild, they need to max their value for him. I dont think they'll get a young established MLB player but they'll get the top prospect they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonFalcon Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) Not that I want too see him go, but I wonder what Camargo could bring. Edited July 20, 2019 by CrimsonFalcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachore Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 36 minutes ago, Unkn0wn said: They would laugh at that offer. Boyd is a recent breakout but hes been very good and cant be a FA till 2023. His numbers say if you put him on a better defense his ERA auto drops to 3.50. Hes a swing and miss guy that doesnt walk people so add better defense and an NL lineup and he could dip lower. Hes also a very important trade chip to the Tigers rebuild, they need to max their value for him. I dont think they'll get a young established MLB player but they'll get the top prospect they want. I'm reluctant to think that. He has a near 5 era for his career and it's up over 4 now. People said the same thing about coming to the NL and getting better defense when we traded for Gausman. At that point I'd just rather keep our prospects unless since I'm not seeing the difference between them. Edit: you are right about walks though. 24 BB to 160 strikouts is eye popping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Malachore said: I'm reluctant to think that. He has a near 5 era for his career and it's up over 4 now. People said the same thing about coming to the NL and getting better defense when we traded for Gausman. At that point I'd just rather keep our prospects unless since I'm not seeing the difference between them. Edit: you are right about walks though. 24 BB to 160 strikouts is eye popping. But, who is the better arm out there that's realistically available? Bauer is likely unavailable because Cleveland leads the AL WC race right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachore Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Unkn0wn said: But, who is the better arm out there that's realistically available? Bauer is likely unavailable because Cleveland leads the AL WC race right now. Are you saying you feel like Boyd is the best realistic arm available between him, Minor, Stroman, Bumgarner? I highly value your opinion so I'm trying to get on board with you here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachore Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 38 minutes ago, CrimsonFalcon said: Not that I want too see him go, but I wonder what Camargo could bring. By himself probably not much. I'd think he'd be part of a bigger package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, Malachore said: Are you saying you feel like Boyd is the best realistic arm available between him, Minor, Stroman, Bumgarner? I highly value your opinion so I'm trying to get on board with you here. The Giants aren't selling. Stroman and Boyd will give you about the same production IMO. You get 2 more years of Boyd than you do Stroman. Stroman's ERA actually projects a little higher than Boyd's with a better defense. Plus I think the Jays will ask more for Stroman because hes the more experienced guy. Minor I like but you could argue the same as Boyd. Minor's track record isn't a long one and he has an extensive injury history. I'd take any of them but I'm not sure the others are clearly better than getting 4 years of Boyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachore Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Unkn0wn said: The Giants aren't selling. Stroman and Boyd will give you about the same production IMPO. You get 2 more years of Boyd than you do Stroman. Stroman's ERA actually projects a little higher than Boyd's with a better defense. Plus I think the Jays will ask more for Stroman because hes the more experienced guy. Minor I like but you could argue the same as Boyd. Minor's track record isn't a long one and he has an extensive injury history. I'd take any of them but I'm not sure the others are clearly better than getting 4 years of Boyd. So what you offering them? If I'm only looking at this and next I think I'm still taking Minor. We likely go for Boyd and Greene if we talk to Detriot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, Malachore said: So what you offering them? If I'm only looking at this and next I think I'm still taking Minor. We likely go for Boyd and Greene if we talk to Detriot. I'd offer Wilson and Allard as the center. That's two top arms they can put in their rotation tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just thinking of Minor coming back home.... Make it happen AA. Drew4719 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouDog Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I think Stroman would be a nice add to round out the rotation. Minor would be close to adding another ace. Id much rather have Minor but would be ok with Stroman as well. sdogg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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