gazoo Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Takk McKinley quietly had a very productive 2018 season, as far as Next Gen Stats are concerned. The one-time UCLA Bruin finished second in the NFL in highest pressure rate out, of players who tallied at least 350 pass rush snaps, according to Next Gen Stats. The Bills continued their busy offseason by locking up DE Jerry Hughes to a two-year extension.@Iam_jerryhughes was the most productive pass rusher in the NFL last season according to Next Gen Stats, generating a QB pressure on 16.2% of his pass rushes in 2018 What this tells us is that McKinley, who’s known for his relentless motor and aggression on the field, was around the quarterback a lot last season. The next step in his maturation will be to convert a few more of those pressures into outright sacks, but the fact that the pressures are there is a very good sign. duckhoa, HouseofEuphoria, NCCooley and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 I've been saying this, Takk maybe the best player on the DL and is the reason vic got hot at the end of the season. 2 of vic sacks were takk chasing people into his lap. I am hoping he will have his breakout season this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomGoesTheDynamite Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Takk is gonna be real good this season. He's not the DE I'm worried about. Atl Falcon, ATL Fan in the DMV, Bunchy Carter and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 It amazes me how many are panicked about our pass rush thinking that’s our only pathway to a good defense. Sure. All of us would like to see 50 + sacks a season from out defense, but the Falcons had more sacks in 2016, 2017 and 2018 than the Super Bowl winners did those years. In fact, we had 37 sacks last year, 7 more than the Super Bowl winning defense had. i believe we will see an increase in sacks from 2018, probably low 40s range. One big key to a good defense is points allowed. I believe we will be a top 10 in defense in points allowed this year. We were in 2017. Tim Mazetti, Stryka and FalconsIn2012 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaBoyz Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Wow . That’s elite shlt. My god I hope he grows into his own . A talent that can bring elite pressure like this is a rarity . He has to want it for himself though . *fingers crossed capitan and gazoo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilleniumFalcon Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Now it's converting those pressures into sacks. gazoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 This further supports our focus on the offensive line this year. Our defense was top 10 in both points and yards in 2017, we have more sacks in last 3 seasons than super bowl winners did. We DID add players to defense, Davison, Hageman, Clayborn and safety depth but the focus on the OL to me was absolutely the right move. And know this, an OL with great blocking TEs that is good enough to take over a game helps your defense tremendously. If they need a breather, a good OL will allow you to run the ball a little more for a series, or to finish out games. When your offense is in the field, your defense doesn’t give up a single yard or point. CTann, MarkMc44 and Cheap Talk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, MilleniumFalcon said: Now it's converting those pressures into sacks. And this is exactly where really good coaching can make a difference. We all know and have been hearing DQ is going to focus hard on DL, despite being DC. Im thrilled we have such season NFL experience coaching our offense in Keotter. Mularkey and Knapp. DQ can trim the keys over to them and get this defense cranking. Again, it was already top 10 in points and total defense in 2017, there is way more talent on it then people realize. MilleniumFalcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 39 minutes ago, Osiruz said: I've been saying this, Takk maybe the best player on the DL and is the reason vic got hot at the end of the season. 2 of vic sacks were takk chasing people into his lap. I am hoping he will have his breakout season this year. Naw grady is..... But I do think more of a solid season then some think.... Now it's about turning pressures into sacks... Pressures are important but with so many good QBs, you have to get sacks.... They can perform underpressure youngbloodz, Vandy, Atl Falcon and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 43 minutes ago, gazoo said: It amazes me how many are panicked about our pass rush thinking that’s our only pathway to a good defense. Sure. All of us would like to see 50 + sacks a season from out defense, but the Falcons had more sacks in 2016, 2017 and 2018 than the Super Bowl winners did those years. In fact, we had 37 sacks last year, 7 more than the Super Bowl winning defense had. i believe we will see an increase in sacks from 2018, probably low 40s range. One big key to a good defense is points allowed. I believe we will be a top 10 in defense in points allowed this year. We were in 2017. It amazes you? Wow! Because the pass rush actually sucks. I don’t care how many pressures anyone got. It’s an almost and didn’t change any games. I need results, not theory. RunningThePiszOuttaTheBall, VTCrunkler, youngbloodz and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Gazoo strikes again. Lol. Takk was 28th among edge rusher who had at least 300 snaps. Actually it gets worse if you include edge rushers with less than 300 snaps. Bottom line, none of the players on Falcons D were any good in pass rush. Takk has pass rush success of 7.8% including sacks, pressures and hits. Takk disappeared for a big stretch during the Falcons losses. Vandy, Atl Falcon and GrimeyKidd 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, Knight of God said: It amazes you? Wow! Because the pass rush actually sucks. I don’t care how many pressures anyone got. It’s an almost and didn’t change any games. I need results, not theory. Actually Takk wasn’t too in pressures too. Eye test showed and so do raw stats. Falcons should have gotten Bennett last year or year before that. Vandy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, gazoo said: Takk McKinley quietly had a very productive 2018 season, as far as Next Gen Stats are concerned. The one-time UCLA Bruin finished second in the NFL in highest pressure rate out, of players who tallied at least 350 pass rush snaps, according to Next Gen Stats. The Bills continued their busy offseason by locking up DE Jerry Hughes to a two-year extension.@Iam_jerryhughes was the most productive pass rusher in the NFL last season according to Next Gen Stats, generating a QB pressure on 16.2% of his pass rushes in 2018 What this tells us is that McKinley, who’s known for his relentless motor and aggression on the field, was around the quarterback a lot last season. The next step in his maturation will be to convert a few more of those pressures into outright sacks, but the fact that the pressures are there is a very good sign. I mean if you just watch the game you could see that. He was always back there. gazoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, gazoo said: It amazes me how many are panicked about our pass rush thinking that’s our only pathway to a good defense. Sure. All of us would like to see 50 + sacks a season from out defense, but the Falcons had more sacks in 2016, 2017 and 2018 than the Super Bowl winners did those years. In fact, we had 37 sacks last year, 7 more than the Super Bowl winning defense had. i believe we will see an increase in sacks from 2018, probably low 40s range. One big key to a good defense is points allowed. I believe we will be a top 10 in defense in points allowed this year. We were in 2017. I’m not panicked but they have to be collectively better as a group that’s what I’m more concerned about.To me our pass rush is sporadic it comes and goes in streaks. Consistency like anything is key. I also think we concentrate to much on what individuals do stat wise. I always ask myself and this went back to Abe at his best what would you have 1 guy that gets double digits or 4-5 guys who get between 5-10 sacks.I know I want the latter I want the group to perform that’s the key in my eyes. JeffAtl, Cheap Talk and gazoo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 32 minutes ago, Knight of God said: It amazes you? Wow! Because the pass rush actually sucks. I don’t care how many pressures anyone got. It’s an almost and didn’t change any games. I need results, not theory. 13 minutes ago, falcons007 said: Gazoo strikes again. Lol. Takk was 28th among edge rusher who had at least 300 snaps. Actually it gets worse if you include edge rushers with less than 300 snaps. Bottom line, none of the players on Falcons D were any good in pass rush. Takk has pass rush success of 7.8% including sacks, pressures and hits. Takk disappeared for a big stretch during the Falcons losses. I don’t know what some of these guys are smokin’....Takk McKinley took a step backwards last year, along with the rest of Atlanta’s Pass rush. mqg96, Knight of God and falcons007 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Vandy said: LOL....I don’t know what these guys are smoking...Takk McKinley took a step backward last year, along with rest of Atlanta pass rush. He was getting there. It just went from getting some sacks to no sacks for a skid. Then he got to the qb again. He definitely affected qb’s. Sack or no sack. He rushed throws. The problem was the lb’s safeties was still letting the catcher catch a short pass and get yac. Something Debo doesn’t allow. gazoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Just now, Vandy said: I don’t know what some of these guys are smokin’....Takk McKinley took a step backwards last year, along with the rest of Atlanta’s Pass rush. Very inconsistent Vandy I’m with you. I actually thought guys like Jarrett and Crawford were better a lot better but as a group I’m with you I think they took that step you mentioned backwards. Banging the table again it’s that C word. Vandy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UGABOZ Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 man we can find stats all over the place to fit an agenda Vandy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, TheFatboi said: He was getting there. It just went from getting some sacks to no sacks for a skid. Then he got to the qb again. He definitely affected qb’s. Sack or no sack. He rushed throws. The problem was the lb’s safeties was still letting the catcher catch a short pass and get yac. Something Debo doesn’t allow. I disagree. I saw QBs sit back there all day long last year. Takk was meh last year, in many ways just as meh as Beasley was. The only two I saw putting consistent pressure on QBs last year were Jarrett and Crawford. FalconsIn2012 and kiwifalcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, gazoo said: It amazes me how many are panicked about our pass rush thinking that’s our only pathway to a good defense. Sure. All of us would like to see 50 + sacks a season from out defense, but the Falcons had more sacks in 2016, 2017 and 2018 than the Super Bowl winners did those years. In fact, we had 37 sacks last year, 7 more than the Super Bowl winning defense had. i believe we will see an increase in sacks from 2018, probably low 40s range. One big key to a good defense is points allowed. I believe we will be a top 10 in defense in points allowed this year. We were in 2017. In Quinn’s defense it’s about chaos, not sacks gazoo, VTCrunkler and A Dog Named Brian 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWFALCON Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Vandy said: I don’t know what some of these guys are smokin’....Takk McKinley too a step backwards last year, along with the rest of Atlanta’s Pass rush. We can’t forget he was injured and probably never recovered. I think It was a leg maybe hammie? Vandy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Vandy said: I disagree. I saw QBs sit back there all day long last year. Takk was meh last year, in many ways just as meh as Beasley was. I only two I saw putting pressure on QBs last year were Jarrett and Crawford. Crawford was s beast last year. How old is he? I’d love to extend him if possibles Vandy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 31 minutes ago, Knight of God said: It amazes you? Wow! Because the pass rush actually sucks. I don’t care how many pressures anyone got. It’s an almost and didn’t change any games. I need results, not theory. That means the pass rush for the last 3 Super Bowl champions sucked worse. We had 37 sacks last year and Super Bowl winner had only 30. I believe we will have sack totals in the low 40s next year. That in no way should be a barrier to a top 10 defense in points allowed. We had 34 sacks in 2017 and finished top 10 in points and top 10 in yards. This year I believe we will be even better, if for nothing else just by fixing the OL by adding a bunch of size, strength, talent and explosion combined with Mularkey and the blocking TE upgrade. But adding Clayborn and DQ focus it will also improve. capitan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said: Very inconsistent Vandy I’m with you. I actually thought guys like Jarrett and Crawford were better a lot better but as a group I’m with you I think they took that step you mentioned backwards. Banging the table again it’s that C word. Inconsistent in pass rush, but just as worrisome to me Kiwi was how inconsistent our two bookend 1st round DEs were last year against the run. That’s got to improve as much as their lack of pass rush does. The talent’s all there.... kiwifalcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, TheFatboi said: He was getting there. It just went from getting some sacks to no sacks for a skid. Then he got to the qb again. He definitely affected qb’s. Sack or no sack. He rushed throws. The problem was the lb’s safeties was still letting the catcher catch a short pass and get yac. Something Debo doesn’t allow. That’s a really good point. Taking away the short stuff for a QB to dump off under pressure can be all the difference between a pressure and a sack. And Deion is one of the best. Neal also covers the underneath stuff, or makes the receivers pay a big price for catching a pass in the box. So much of what one player does is based on what his brothers are doing. It all works tougher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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