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Just now, GEORGIAfan said:

She was dating 1 guy. She didn't sleep with politicians to get jobs. 

Look into it.

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2 minutes ago, T-Falcon said:

How many states would you have to win to get 400 super delegates?

Super delegates are super because they are unpledged. They get to decide who to vote for. They can change their mind. You do not win them like pledged delegates. 

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8 minutes ago, T-Falcon said:

I'm saying it didn't mater because they weren't going to be. She had already consolidated that power so that he couldn't.

Retrospectively, it's a moot point.

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Just now, GEORGIAfan said:

Super delegates are super because they are unpledged. They get to decide who to vote for. They can change their mind. You do not win them like pledged delegates. 

Which is why I said consolidating power is as important as the debates. The only thing Obama and Harris have in common is skin tone. Their message, their attitude, their demeanor, their cadance, their appeal, nothing is the same so there is nothing to garentee she can pull together the Obama coalition unless you believe it was built solely on his skin tone.

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6 minutes ago, Sn4tteRBoxXeR said:

Retrospectively, it's a moot point.

True, which is why I said what I said

Biden is the establishment candidate

Sanders is the socialist candidate

Warren is the bridge candidate

Harris plays can play spoiler to Biden

And a dark horse candidate like gabbard could sweep in. Outside of that

It's Biden or Warren getting the nod and the super delegates.

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If Kamala Harris is the nominee then I'm probably voting 3rd party. I don't care what anyone thinks as it pertains to that helping Trump. Put up a better candidate or eat ****.

I'd vote for Warren. I like some of Sanders ideas and the way he explains and relates to people, not crazy about his whole platform... though he is by far the best candidate to run against Trump imo. The GOP seriously have blown their load calling everything the Dems do socialism. It has been proven time and time again that people even in strong GOP territory like Sanders a lot. He'd wipe the floor with Trump imo.

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1 minute ago, T-Falcon said:

Which is why I said consolidating power is as important as the debates. The only thing Obama and Harris have in common is skin tone. Their message, their attitude, their demeanor, their cadance, their appeal, nothing is the same so there is nothing to garentee she can pull together the Obama coalition unless you believe it was built solely on his skin tone.

I never guaranteed anything, but she has been winning a larger share of AA voters since stomping on Biden. 

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1 minute ago, T-Falcon said:

True, which is why I said what I said

Biden is the establishment candidate

Sanders is the socialist candidate

Warren is the bridge candidate

Harris plays can play spoiler to Biden

And a dark horse candidate like gabbard could sweep in. Outside of that

It's Biden or Warren getting the nod and the super delegates.

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Gabbard probably won't make the third debate qualifications. 

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Just now, GEORGIAfan said:

I never guaranteed anything, but she has been winning a larger share of AA voters since stomping on Biden. 

Cool she doesn't have

The socialist they belong to Warren & Sanders

The establishment: they belong to Biden

Women: split between Warren and Harris

White male liberals: Warren and Sanders

Leaning liberals: Biden

She doesn't have a coalition

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@GEORGIAfan she may not hence dark horse candidate. you can put anyone you want there that's on the far outside. it happens from time to time. someone gets hot and takes off and takes over and all your consolidating is lost. ie Hilary losing delegates to Obama. His rise was like a tsunami, all the sand bags in the world wasn't stopping his ascent. 

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2 minutes ago, T-Falcon said:

Cool she doesn't have

The socialist they belong to Warren & Sanders

The establishment: they belong to Biden

Women: split between Warren and Harris

White male liberals: Warren and Sanders

Leaning liberals: Biden

She doesn't have a coalition

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Harris, who is of mixed Jamaican (black) and Indian descent, was easily the top choice in the survey of influential women of color that I mentioned earlier. So while I don’t automatically want to assume that nonwhite candidates will necessarily win over voters who share their racial background — it took Obama some time to persuade African-Americans to vote for him in 2008 — Harris seems to be off to a pretty good head start. And her coalition not only includes black voters, but also potentially Asian and Hispanic voters. Harris did narrowly lose Hispanic voters to Sanchez, a Hispanic Democrat, in 2016 (while winning handily among Asian voters). But her approval ratings among Hispanic voters are high in California, a state where the group makes up around a third of the electorate.

If black voters and the Hispanic/Asian group constitute Harris’s first two building blocks, she’d then be able to decide which of the three remaining (predominately white) Democratic groups to target to complete her trifecta. And you could make the case for any of the three. Harris polls better among well-informed voters, which could suggest strength among Party Loyalists. She’s young-ish (54 years old) and has over 1 million Instagram followers, which implies potential strength among millennials. (And remember, Democratic millennials highly value racial diversity.) Harris’s worst group — despite a highly liberal, anti-Trump voting record — might actually be The Left, the whitest and most male group, from which she’s drawn occasional criticism for her decisions as a prosecutor and a district attorney.

Overall, however, this is a strong position for Harris. As Slate’s Jamelle Bouie points out, it may actually be a strategic advantage to be a black candidate in this Democratic primary in 2020.

 

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4 minutes ago, GEORGIAfan said:

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Harris, who is of mixed Jamaican (black) and Indian descent, was easily the top choice in the survey of influential women of color that I mentioned earlier. So while I don’t automatically want to assume that nonwhite candidates will necessarily win over voters who share their racial background — it took Obama some time to persuade African-Americans to vote for him in 2008 — Harris seems to be off to a pretty good head start. And her coalition not only includes black voters, but also potentially Asian and Hispanic voters. Harris did narrowly lose Hispanic voters to Sanchez, a Hispanic Democrat, in 2016 (while winning handily among Asian voters). But her approval ratings among Hispanic voters are high in California, a state where the group makes up around a third of the electorate.

If black voters and the Hispanic/Asian group constitute Harris’s first two building blocks, she’d then be able to decide which of the three remaining (predominately white) Democratic groups to target to complete her trifecta. And you could make the case for any of the three. Harris polls better among well-informed voters, which could suggest strength among Party Loyalists. She’s young-ish (54 years old) and has over 1 million Instagram followers, which implies potential strength among millennials. (And remember, Democratic millennials highly value racial diversity.) Harris’s worst group — despite a highly liberal, anti-Trump voting record — might actually be The Left, the whitest and most male group, from which she’s drawn occasional criticism for her decisions as a prosecutor and a district attorney.

Overall, however, this is a strong position for Harris. As Slate’s Jamelle Bouie points out, it may actually be a strategic advantage to be a black candidate in this Democratic primary in 2020.

 

alright just don't put too much into this or youll likely be let down come nomination day or sooner..

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3 minutes ago, T-Falcon said:

alright just don't put too much into this or youll likely be let down come nomination day or sooner..

I don't support Harris. I can just see her path. 

6 minutes ago, T-Falcon said:

@GEORGIAfan she may not hence dark horse candidate. you can put anyone you want there that's on the far outside. it happens from time to time. someone gets hot and takes off and takes over and all your consolidating is lost. ie Hilary losing delegates to Obama. His rise was like a tsunami, all the sand bags in the world wasn't stopping his ascent. 

Only potential candidates I could see doing that are Booker, Buttigieg, and Warren. That is the group Dave Weigel leaves voters most inspired after listening to them. And as a WaPo reporter, he has followed almost every candidate. 

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Just now, GEORGIAfan said:

I don't support Harris. I can just see her path. 

Only potential candidates I could see doing that are Booker, Buttigieg, and Warren. That is the group Dave Weigel leaves voters most inspired after listening to them. And as a WaPo reporter, he has followed almost every candidate. 

But Warren isnta dark horse candidate. she's a top tier one. 

Warren, Biden, Sanders, Harris are the top 4, 

Buttigeig is at. least one election away from being a serious contender though he was building some political power early on before he got crushed at home over his handling of a law enforcement officer

Booker hasn't done anything to suggest he can be a dark horse, he's even less appealing than he was during his house rants though he could find a footing in the debates, he has some name recognition at least. 

Gabbard picked up some steam in getting name recognition in the first debate. I actually think she's a decent candidate against Trump. her attitude gives me more a feeling of positivity than most running right now. She might be a serious contender for Vp for whoever gets the nomination unless they wanted to play it smart and pick a Establishment candidate with a socialist Vp or a Socialist candidate with an establishment style VP to try and bing everyone together. 

Warren/Gabbard would be a cool ticket honestly. 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, T-Falcon said:

True, which is why I said what I said

Biden is the establishment candidate

Sanders is the socialist candidate

Warren is the bridge candidate

Harris plays can play spoiler to Biden

And a dark horse candidate like gabbard could sweep in. Outside of that

It's Biden or Warren getting the nod and the super delegates.

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15 minutes ago, Leon Troutsky said:

So just going to ignore my awesome Netflix stand-up comedy recommendation, huh?

naw ill check him out. Just finished watching some hilarious Josh Johnson 

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12 minutes ago, Sn4tteRBoxXeR said:

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might I ask why you chose that profile pick?

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