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Not the new Donald Trump Presidency thread

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5 minutes ago, Psychic Gibbon said:

The guy who wrote the rules for defeating the radical left seems to care. Must mean it's super important to take her down a notch for insulting Dear Leader!

There are 2 completely separate topics which is why it's an ad hominem attack.

Agreeing with someone on one topic doesn't automatically mean you agree with everything  they say.

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1 minute ago, T-Falcon said:

Just because you say it won't doesn't it mean it won't. It will disenfranchise 80% of the country. It absolutely will.

it literally does the opposite. it's the only system where every vote counts. 

i don't understand how you guys convince yourselves of such utter nonsense. 

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Just now, Gritzblitz 2.0 said:

Getting rid of the electoral college would require amending the constitution. That means that 2/3 of Congress and 3/4 of state legislatures would have to be on board. 

If it gets to that point, the GOP has already lost any sort of power in government. 

Not really the liberal States are trying to make a pact that will give their States electoral votes to the national popular vote winner. If one candidate wins the election and they give their voted to the other candidate who won the popular vote it has the potential to be explosive.

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2 minutes ago, Psychic Gibbon said:

Most of the country is already disenfranchised by the EC, be they liberals in Texas and Georgia or conservatives in California and New York.

It's not hard to understand.

Each state is its own entity and each state votes for their pick for president.

It's the United States of American not the United State.

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Just now, T-Falcon said:

Not really the liberal States are trying to make a pact that will give their States electoral votes to the national popular vote winner. If one candidate wins the election and they give their voted to the other candidate who won the popular vote it has the potential to be explosive.

the explosive dangers of one person, one vote. you understand that you sound utterly ridiculous, right?

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2 minutes ago, Psychic Gibbon said:

Sorry, bud. Facts don't care about your feelings.

:lol: then why are you espousing false facts

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Just now, T-Falcon said:

Not really the liberal States are trying to make a pact that will give their States electoral votes to the national popular vote winner. If one candidate wins the election and they give their voted to the other candidate who won the popular vote it has the potential to be explosive.

Yeah, those are liberal states that your party isn't going to win anyway. 

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Just now, achilles return said:

the explosive dangers of one person, one vote. you understand that you sound utterly ridiculous, right?

The dangers of having the big States dominate the smaller States will lead to war. 

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1 minute ago, Gritzblitz 2.0 said:

Yeah, those are liberal states that your party isn't going to win anyway. 

I don't have a party I'm anti party

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Just now, The Legendary SB said:

It's not hard to understand.

Each state is its own entity and each state votes for their pick for president.

It's the United States of American not the United State.

The EC was made because Southern states wanted their slaves to count when picking a president, which obviously couldn't happen with a popular vote. It was a half assed compromise to placate them.

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16 minutes ago, Leon Troutsky said:

He’s retweeting Jerome Corsi and Pamela Geller!  :lol:

 

Geller was one of snak's favorite bigots to cite here.

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Just now, T-Falcon said:

I don't have a party I'm anti party

Yet when you first dusted this account back off and showed up in March, your first posts were a picture of a MAGA hat about how you were voting Trump 2020

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6 minutes ago, T-Falcon said:

Just because you say it won't doesn't it mean it won't. It will disenfranchise 80% of the country. It absolutely will.

And we're off!

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3 minutes ago, The Legendary SB said:

It's not hard to understand.

Each state is its own entity and each state votes for their pick for president.

It's the United States of American not the United State.

1 minute ago, Psychic Gibbon said:

The EC was made because Southern states wanted their slaves to count when picking a president, which obviously couldn't happen with a popular vote. It was a half assed compromise to placate them.

Disagree.  Slavery wasn't a hot topic when the constitution was written.  It became an issue in the mid 1800s.

 

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based upon the sheer outrage for democracy among the right, i can only imagine how long the list of industrialized countries with popular elections for their head of government/state that failed must be.

oh wait.

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6 minutes ago, The Legendary SB said:

There are 2 completely separate topics which is why it's an ad hominem attack.

Agreeing with someone on one topic doesn't automatically mean you agree with everything  they say.

Like the white supremacist and Nazi sympathizer whose picture you posted to “prove” global warming wasn’t real?

SB:  Hey guys, look at this picture.

Everyone:  That’s a white supremacist.

SB:  Well I don’t agree with everything, but you should believe this one thing that this white supremacist said.

Everyone:  Why are you posting stuff from white supremacists?

SB:  Um...err...GOTTA RUN!  :smoke cloud: 

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1 minute ago, T-Falcon said:

The dangers of having the big States dominate the smaller States will lead to war. 

Wrong, but we already see this plays out in how reps from smaller states with less population than D.C. (with an axe to grind) impose their will on the voters in D.C.  $$$$$

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6 minutes ago, The Legendary SB said:

There are 2 completely separate topics which is why it's an ad hominem attack.

Agreeing with someone on one topic doesn't automatically mean you agree with everything  they say.

Yeah, that's not an ad hominem.

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2 minutes ago, mdrake34 said:

Yet when you first dusted this account back off and showed up in March, your first posts were a picture of a MAGA hat about how you were voting Trump 2020

Being a Trump supporter doesn't automatically make you a Republican.  

Trump was actually a Reform Party candidate and moved to the Republican party to actually have a chance of winning.  

Many establishment Republicans are anti-Trump.

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3 minutes ago, T-Falcon said:

The dangers of having the big States dominate the smaller States will lead to war. 

yeah, it sure is great that the electoral college is here to maintain the political powerhouse of idaho and wyoming. 

like i said, your argument is utterly nonsensical. the electoral college doesn't even do what you believe it does. you have no idea what the **** you're talking about. 

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3 minutes ago, Psychic Gibbon said:

The EC was made because Southern states wanted their slaves to count when picking a president, which obviously couldn't happen with a popular vote. It was a half assed compromise to placate them.

Again wrong

 

The Constitutional Convention in 1787 used the Virginia Plan as the basis for discussions, as the Virginia proposal was the first. The Virginia Plan called for the Congress to elect the president.[11]Delegates from a majority of states agreed to this mode of election. After being debated, however, delegates came to oppose nomination by congress for the reason that it could violate the separation of powers. James Wilson then made motion for electors for the purpose of choosing the president.[12]

 

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