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I mean, if we don’t count any of the states that voted Trump, Clinton would have won with 80% of the vote!!!

Clearly the current system is skewed by states that don’t vote the way we want.  :lol:

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1 minute ago, T-Falcon said:

Clinton win 3 million in Texas Trump 4 that's not the same as winning 7 million in California

this is completely incoherent and has nothing to do with what trout said.

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8 minutes ago, achilles return said:

you understand how dumb this argument is, right? when faced with the indisputable fact that the popular will of the country was contrary to the electoral vote, you just arbitrarily cut out a massive part of the country because they didn't vote the way you liked. 

and you have the audacity to whine about being disenfranchised.

"well, uh, what if california doesn't actually count???"

It's not arbitrary.  Cali has the most illegals.

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Just now, Leon Troutsky said:

I mean, if we don’t count any of the states that voted Trump, Clinton would have won with 80% of the vote!!!

Clearly the current system is skewed by states that don’t vote the way we want.  :lol:

it's so utterly transparent how flimsy and manufactured these excuses against popular elections are. worzone doesn't care about disenfranchisement at all. he clearly doesn't care about californian republicans. it's just about power. it's about imposing his ideological preferences on the country regardless of popular opinion, and his kind will tend towards greater authoritarianism more and more as they get challenged by the country's changing demographics. 

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14 minutes ago, Leon Troutsky said:

What’s the popular vote without Texas?

Landslide Clinton victory.

See how stupid it sounds now?

Texas is real America though. California is evil because their voters disagree with me.

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1 minute ago, Red&Black said:

It's not arbitrary.  Cali has the most illegals.

and this is the part where you will insist on an unbelievable, massive campaign of rampant voter fraud because you buy into every far-right conspiracy talk radio pumps out. you're nothing if not predictable, r&b.

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9 minutes ago, achilles return said:

it's so utterly transparent how flimsy and manufactured these excuses against popular elections are. worzone doesn't care about disenfranchisement at all. he clearly doesn't care about californian republicans. it's just about power. it's about imposing his ideological preferences on the country regardless of popular opinion, and his kind will tend towards greater authoritarianism more and more as they get challenged by the country's changing demographics. 

It's also blatantly obvious that they know their platform isn't that popular and they can't convince people over to them. Due to that they have to hold the line for the system that gives them a chance even though that system hinges entirely on their two main states (Texas, Georgia) remaining red... which is not how either are trending.

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1. Ny 4 million

2. Nj 2 million

3. Cali 7 million

4. IL 3 million

16 million

1.Texas-4 million

2. Ga 5 million

3. Tn-2 million

4. Al-1 million

5. Ar-650k

6.KY- 1 million

7. LA- 1 million

8. Ms-650k

9. Az- 1 million

 

It would take the entire southern US to equal just the Democrat votes of those 4 states.

 

 

 

 

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We use the popular vote for litterally every other election that is held in this country..

Yet some how using it for the highest office in the land will produce mob rule.

 

 

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Posted (edited)

1 minute ago, falconsd56 said:

We use the popular vote for litterally every other election that is held in this country..

Yet some how using it for the highest office in the land will produce mob rule.

 

 

In state elections yes

Edited by T-Falcon

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1 minute ago, T-Falcon said:

1. Ny 4 million

2. Nj 2 million

3. Cali 7 million

4. IL 3 million

16 million

1.Texas-4 million

2. Ga 5 million

3. Tn-2 million

4. Al-1 million

5. Ar-650k

6.KY- 1 million

7. LA- 1 million

8. Ms-650k

9. Az- 1 million

 

It would take the entire southern US to equal just the Democrat votes of those 4 states.

 

 

 

 

Hmm... Wouldn't take much to tip the balance in a lot of those states if big state libs moved into those states en masse.

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Just now, Psychic Gibbon said:

Hmm... Wouldn't take much to tip the balance in a lot of those states if big state libs moved into those states en masse.

Happens all the time. They basically did that by taking over big cities to force their nonsense on rural areas.

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1 minute ago, T-Falcon said:

Happens all the time. They basically did that by taking over big cities to force their nonsense on rural areas.

Who took over the big cities?

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20 minutes ago, achilles return said:

it's so utterly transparent how flimsy and manufactured these excuses against popular elections are. worzone doesn't care about disenfranchisement at all. he clearly doesn't care about californian republicans. it's just about power. it's about imposing his ideological preferences on the country regardless of popular opinion, and his kind will tend towards greater authoritarianism more and more as they get challenged by the country's changing demographics. 

It’s exactly like the census argument.  Literally the only argument being made is “it helps Republicans”.  

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Just now, Leon Troutsky said:

It’s exactly like the census argument.  Literally the only argument being made is “it helps Republicans”.  

No one has made that argument. I mean literally no one

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Just now, T-Falcon said:

No one has made that argument. I mean literally no one

What is the argument in favor of the citizenship question on the census?

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12 minutes ago, T-Falcon said:

1. Ny 4 million

2. Nj 2 million

3. Cali 7 million

4. IL 3 million

16 million

1.Texas-4 million

2. Ga 5 million

3. Tn-2 million

4. Al-1 million

5. Ar-650k

6.KY- 1 million

7. LA- 1 million

8. Ms-650k

9. Az- 1 million

It would take the entire southern US to equal just the Democrat votes of those 4 states.

your argument is literally "it's not fair that there's more of you than of us".

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Posted (edited)

4 minutes ago, Leon Troutsky said:

What is the argument in favor of the citizenship question on the census?

That illegals are being counted and used to manipulate the number of electors. Which at 11 million it would be even more egregious in a popular vote setting.

Edited by T-Falcon

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3 minutes ago, T-Falcon said:

No one has made that argument. I mean literally no one

i mean that's the actual motivation, you're just dancing around it because of how bad it looks.

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1 minute ago, achilles return said:

your argument is literally "it's not fair that there's more of you than of us".

No the argument is the big States dominate every one the whole reason for an electoral college.

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2 minutes ago, T-Falcon said:

That illegals are being counted and used to manipulate the number of electors. Which at 11 million it would be even egregious in a popular vote setting.

Undocumented immigrants will be counted with or without that question, because that’s what the Constitution requires.  

So what is the point of the citizenship question?

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