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Not the new Donald Trump Presidency thread

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39 minutes ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said:

Could have at least made it more exciting and used the money on hookers and blow! 

 

Oh wait, this Alabama, I mean adolescence and blow. :doh:

Meth is a bigger problem than blow

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1 hour ago, mdrake34 said:
 
"The $1.8 billion

The Congressional Research Service, the nonpartisan analytic arm of Congress, reviewed this cash transfer in a 2018 report. It gave a total of $1.7 billion.

That was the amount that U.S. and Iranian negotiators settled on to resolve an arms contract between the United States and Iran that predated the Iranian revolution in 1979. Iran had paid for military equipment, and it was never delivered.

As of 1990, there were $400 million in that account. Negotiators agreed that accrued interest would add $1.3 billion to the amount, which is a lot of money — but 25 years is a long time for interest to build up the balance.

The United States sent the money to Iran in euros, Swiss francs and other currencies. Trump embellished when he mentioned barrels and boxes. Reports at the time said the money was packed and loaded onto pallets, similar to how other bulk goods are shipped."

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/apr/27/donald-trump/donald-trump-iran-150-billion-and-18-billion-c/

This needs to be tattooed to the inner eyelids of anyone mischaracterizing the Iran deal.

It is ok to not agree with it......it is not ok to be either A. A willful idiot on the subject or B. A pathological liar about it.

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21 minutes ago, falconsd56 said:

Meth is a bigger problem than blow

With him being an older guy, he probably would pick Blow and not know how good Meth is instead. B)

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9 minutes ago, Jpowers said:

 “Iran cannot sit idly by as the American imperialist machine encroaches on their territory, threatens their sovereignty, and endangers their very way of life,” said Bolton

Sadly, that is more true than satire.

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5 minutes ago, Carter said:

Uh...

The same folks who believed every Clinton (and every democratic) accuser will immediately claim she's lying, attack her, they'll dig up dirt on her, folks will send her threats, and her life will generally be made to be a living ****.

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8 minutes ago, mdrake34 said:

The same folks who believed every Clinton (and every democratic) accuser will immediately claim she's lying, attack her, they'll dig up dirt on her, folks will send her threats, and her life will generally be made to be a living ****.

"I choose to only believe women when I can get my way on every single accusation against the other team. Sorry Carroll shoulda thought about that before you let the likes of Ellison and Fairfax get away with what they did" *steps over Al Frankens corpse*

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14 minutes ago, mdrake34 said:

The same folks who believed every Clinton (and every democratic) accuser will immediately claim she's lying, attack her, they'll dig up dirt on her, folks will send her threats, and her life will generally be made to be a living ****.

Reporters verified with some of her friends that she told them about this when it happened. Her friends had mixed advice. One told her to go to the police right then and she’d go with her. Another friend told her to leave it alone because Trump has 200 lawyers and would bury her. They also verified that there is no surveillance system to capture footage, so there will be no video corroboration.

It’s not like video would have moved the needle at all for Trump supporters though. We’ve already seen how that goes.

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5 minutes ago, Carter said:

Also, black Twitter is roasting Clarence Thomas today for his dissent in the Mississippi ruling.

 

Why would they expect a white man like Clarence Thomas to vote differently?

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4 minutes ago, AF89 said:

 

Pretty much...

 

And the sad part is... It is the ONLY thing on that list that was designed to save human life if shot! Smdh 

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I'm so millenial I often forget Billy Ocean is supposed to be a real life person and it's jarring to see it written outside the context of the board 

 

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2 hours ago, mdrake34 said:
 
"The $1.8 billion

The Congressional Research Service, the nonpartisan analytic arm of Congress, reviewed this cash transfer in a 2018 report. It gave a total of $1.7 billion.

That was the amount that U.S. and Iranian negotiators settled on to resolve an arms contract between the United States and Iran that predated the Iranian revolution in 1979. Iran had paid for military equipment, and it was never delivered.

As of 1990, there were $400 million in that account. Negotiators agreed that accrued interest would add $1.3 billion to the amount, which is a lot of money — but 25 years is a long time for interest to build up the balance.

The United States sent the money to Iran in euros, Swiss francs and other currencies. Trump embellished when he mentioned barrels and boxes. Reports at the time said the money was packed and loaded onto pallets, similar to how other bulk goods are shipped."

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/apr/27/donald-trump/donald-trump-iran-150-billion-and-18-billion-c/

......and how much in reparations did Iran pay for killing the Marines in Kobar Towers ?  How much did they pay for holding out hostages for over a year, and trashing out Embassy ?  Something seems a bit out of balance here, and details have been ignored.  Typical !

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2 hours ago, mdrake34 said:

"THE FACTS: There was no $150 billion payout from the U.S. treasury. The money he refers to represents Iranian assets held abroad that were frozen until the deal was reached and Tehran was allowed to access its funds.

The payout of about $1.8 billion is a separate matter. That dates to the 1970s, when Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was overthrown and diplomatic relations ruptured.

That left people, businesses and governments in each country indebted to partners in the other, and these complex claims took decades to sort out in tribunals and arbitration. For its part, Iran paid settlements of more than $2.5 billion to U.S. citizens and businesses.

The day after the nuclear deal was implemented, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the claim over the 1970s military equipment order, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest. The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane, which gave rise to Trump’s dramatic accounts of money stuffed in barrels or boxes and delivered in the dead of night. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later, not crammed into containers."

https://www.apnews.com/727282bdead6489a8521059936375210

No, the U.S. and Iran did not settle the claim, Iran and OBAMA settled the claim.  That would be like Bill settling a claim with Hillary.  Birds of a feather.

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2 hours ago, Vogelgryff said:

What do you think about Arafat getting a Nobel Peace prize?

he liked it, but  he doesn't have the courage to answer.  Nobody gets to question Emperor Verbosus .  Don't you know who he IS  ????

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4 minutes ago, HMFIC said:

......and how much in reparations did Iran pay for killing the Marines in Kobar Towers ?  How much did they pay for holding out hostages for over a year, and trashing out Embassy ?  Something seems a bit out of balance here, and details have been ignored.  Typical !

about $2.5 billion, nearly 40 years ago:

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The Iran–United States Claims Tribunal (IUSCT) is an international arbitral tribunal that resolves claims between the nationals and governments of the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America. It was established on 19 January 1981 pursuant to the "Algiers Declarations", also known as the Algiers Accords, an agreement between the U.S. and Iran mediated by Algeria to resolve the hostage crisis.

Seated in The Hague, Netherlands, the Tribunal hears individual cases in the formation of three-member chambers (consisting of one Iranian, one American, and one from the three appointed by the other six); it meets as a full tribunal to consider disputes between the two governments, and cases referred from the chambers. It is composed of nine arbitrators: three appointed by Iran, three appointed by the United States, and a further three—neither Iranian nor Americans—appointed by the previous six arbitrators.

The Tribunal closed to new claims by private individuals on January 19, 1982; it received over 3,900 claims and ordered payments totaling over US$3.5 billion (around US$2.5 billion by Iran to U.S. nationals and more than US$1 billion by the U.S. to Iranian nationals.[1] As of 2014, all private claims had been resolved, while several intergovernmental claims are still pending before the Tribunal.[2][3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–United_States_Claims_Tribunal

the money we returned in 2016 was one of the last outstanding issues left to be resolved.

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