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Not the new Donald Trump Presidency thread

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1 hour ago, SpongeDad said:

Trump tried to do what he could without going to war as the media wants him to do.

And JFC, you just come across as childish for an elderly man with your nonstop stupid posts....

It doesn't make any sense! Why does he not care at all that he's making himself insufferable, especially if his whole deal is saying over and over how stupid and dense Trump is? It isn't just hypocrisy; he's reached a level of self-parody that he's practically making a whole argument against his own state of mind.

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Gawddammit I've spent a good part of the last three weeks at my Aunt and Uncles (basically care giving/heavy lifting after Uncle donated a kidney to Aunt) probably about finished in the next few days and I'm just sitting here and I randomly click on Redzone (thinking there's no way, they don't watch NFL in this house) and yep coulda been watching Redzone all this time :lol:

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Discussion on the board about political corruption in 2029

Me: that's crazy cant believe they did that 

@mdrake34  hey guys remember that one time Tfalcon got mad and somehow that's supposed to invalidate his point this.  Yeah good time 

 

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12 minutes ago, SpongeDad said:

I'd be okay trading the farm for Joe Borrow.

I'd want Tua as well if I thought we could actually protect him

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I doubt there's a snowballs chance in **** that Cincy is gonna let an Hiesman winner from Ohio get past them. If not Tua then I guess we should be looking at Fields or Lawrence next year. I'm not really that intersted in Herbert unless we could somehow trade down and still get him. Dudes a great arm and legs but he's got a little Jay Cutler on him with some of his decisions.

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Told you all during the offseason that the Falcons' season was over the moment they hired Koetter to be the OC. We don't have the personnel to run his scheme, which was just going to get Ryan killed with the O-line we assembled, which is made worse by it being outdated and predictable. If you expected anything besides a disaster on that side of the ball then I don't know what to tell you.

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20 minutes ago, lostone said:

Well now I’m terrified 

 

This video is trash. It takes a new definition of fascism to only be right wing or nationalist.  

It requires a one party state. 

Violence, silencing of political thought variations through intimidation and censorship and violence.  

President Xia of China first example is a fascist. From censorship to political violence and murder and creating a 1 party state therss no doubt. 

Putin is clearly a fascist. From the censorship,  political violence and murder to the 1 party state.

They consolidate power in the government,  then use that power to censor, intimidate,  attack,  and kill political opponents. 

Considering the majority of the right is for small government that doesn't appear to be a right leaning thing in our country, but a leftist idea.

Considering the desire to censor all "offensive" or non conforming opinions or words and content from schools, social media,  jobs, evey day life, etc.. in our country that is found almost exclusively on the left.  It doenst appear that is a right trait here.

The left and right have both had political violence take place. Though disproportionately more of it happens from the left against right leaning individuals.

Neither side is for patrol marching and killing political opponents however. 

Fascism is not yet a thing in America and by all trends if it does arrive it wont be from the right.  From all signs it will withiit question come from the left who is already using all of it but condoning the open physical violence.  

Donald is offensive  and behaves too often below the conduct of the office and is a pretty disgusting all around person in his personal life. But hes not a fascist. 

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12 minutes ago, Wokezone said:

This video is trash. It takes a new definition of fascism to only be right wing or nationalist.  

It requires a one party state. 

Violence, silencing of political thought variations through intimidation and censorship and violence.  

President Xia of China first example is a fascist. From censorship to political violence and murder and creating a 1 party state therss no doubt. 

Putin is clearly a fascist. From the censorship,  political violence and murder to the 1 party state.

They consolidate power in the government,  then use that power to censor, intimidate,  attack,  and kill political opponents. 

Considering the majority of the right is for small government that doesn't appear to be a right leaning thing in our country, but a leftist idea.

Considering the desire to censor all "offensive" or non conforming opinions or words and content from schools, social media,  jobs, evey day life, etc.. in our country that is found almost exclusively on the left.  It doenst appear that is a right trait here.

The left and right have both had political violence take place. Though disproportionately more of it happens from the left against right leaning individuals.

Neither side is for patrol marching and killing political opponents however. 

Fascism is not yet a thing in America and by all trends if it does arrive it wont be from the right.  From all signs it will withiit question come from the left who is already using all of it but condoning the open physical violence.  

Donald is offensive  and behaves too often below the conduct of the office and is a pretty disgusting all around person in his personal life. But hes not a fascist. 

I will reiterate what I said before.  Equality to the  oppressor looks like oppression.  How do I reconcile people focusing on brown people they don’t understand or care to understand their circumstances?  Harkening back to a time that never existed.  I often ask, “when was America great?”,  “what year would you like to go back to”? , “when was America great when it came to being black”.  I get mostly crickets and non answers 

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2 hours ago, Wokezone said:

This video is trash. It takes a new definition of fascism to only be right wing or nationalist.  

It requires a one party state. 

Violence, silencing of political thought variations through intimidation and censorship and violence.  

President Xia of China first example is a fascist. From censorship to political violence and murder and creating a 1 party state therss no doubt. 

Putin is clearly a fascist. From the censorship,  political violence and murder to the 1 party state.

They consolidate power in the government,  then use that power to censor, intimidate,  attack,  and kill political opponents. 

Considering the majority of the right is for small government that doesn't appear to be a right leaning thing in our country, but a leftist idea.

Considering the desire to censor all "offensive" or non conforming opinions or words and content from schools, social media,  jobs, evey day life, etc.. in our country that is found almost exclusively on the left.  It doenst appear that is a right trait here.

The left and right have both had political violence take place. Though disproportionately more of it happens from the left against right leaning individuals.

Neither side is for patrol marching and killing political opponents however. 

Fascism is not yet a thing in America and by all trends if it does arrive it wont be from the right.  From all signs it will withiit question come from the left who is already using all of it but condoning the open physical violence.  

Donald is offensive  and behaves too often below the conduct of the office and is a pretty disgusting all around person in his personal life. But hes not a fascist. 

Sigh... I know this stuff goes through your head and never sticks so this is mostly for everyone else.

1. Fascism is a far-right ideology. Like most right-wing ideologies it seeks to reinforce traditional power structures and values and to impose that order upon society via the government (eg. banning gay marriage, making abortion illegal). Where fascism differentiates itself is that they seek to create a myth of the past that they wish to "reimpose" upon a degenerate society, creating contemporary scapegoats to blame for why society has degenerated (cough cough), and marrying government and corporate power to prevent the collapse of the capitalist power structure. It is, in essence, the last, fever dreamed bulwark of capitalism to protect itself.

2. Not all dictatorships are fascist. Not even all right-wing dictatorships are fascist.

3. Steve made the same "government = left-wing" arguments before he was banned to claim that the Nazis were far-left before he posted stuff that directly contradicted his own arguments. It's a stance from brain dead neo-confederates/libertarians who barely understand the world around them that always falls apart under even slight scrutiny.

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10 minutes ago, lostone said:

I will reiterate what I said before.  Equality to the  oppressor looks like oppression.  How do I reconcile people focusing on brown people they don’t understand or care to understand their circumstances?  Harkening back to a time that never existed.  I often ask, “when was America great?”,  “what year would you like to go back to”? , “when was America great when it came to being black”.  I get mostly crickets and non answers 

It has always been great.  It's never been perfect.  But pretending the USA wasnt great in the 1700s and 1800s defeating the largest military power in the world to earn and keep its independence and develop this idea of a free society is silly or the 1940s who defeated the Nazis, Japanese,  and Italy who had taken 85% of the world and did it successfully. Dont confuse the idea of great and perfect.  Add racial and gender equality to the 1940s and it blows this confused generation who dont even know who or what they are out of the water.

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Also, FYI, China isn't fascist. Likewise, despite what tankies like to believe, it isn't communist or socialist either. Instead when Deng Xiaoping was implementing his market reforms his primary inspiration was Singapore; an extremely authoritarian, state capitalist system.

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3 minutes ago, Psychic Gibbon said:

Also, FYI, China isn't fascist. Likewise, despite what tankies like to believe, it isn't communist or socialist either. Instead when Deng Xiaoping was implementing his market reforms his primary inspiration was Singapore; an extremely authoritarian, state capitalist system.

Yes it is 

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