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14 minutes ago, Gritzblitz 2.0 said:

So much for teams tanking for Tua.

I think we are very soon going to routinely see surefire top 10 draft picks forgo large portions of their college games out of fear this could happen to them.

And I can't really blame them.

Bo didn’t get surgery for a long time, had internal bleeding in the hip that lead to necrosis. Hopefully they operate on Tua immediately. 

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9 minutes ago, Psychic Gibbon said:

Bolivia's supreme court ruled that term limits were unconstitional.

So... No.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1748281/experts-are-divided-on-evo-morales-and-bolivias-alleged-coup/amp/

Despite the economic and humanitarian gains, critics say Morales became increasingly unbothered by democratic norms toward the end of his time in office. In a 2016 referendum, a slim majority of Bolivians voted against amending the constitution to let him run for a fourth term. He ignored the result and turned to the courts. His party claimed that electoral term limits were a human rights violation. In 2017, the Constitutional Court—which opponents say is packed with Morales supporters—struck down those limits. The move deepened the already stark divisions between his supporters in predominantly indigenous rural areas and his mainly metropolitan critics.

 

read that article. This is very nuanced and not at all a cut and dry thing one way or the other 

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4 minutes ago, mdrake34 said:

Yeah, totally excuses extra-judicial executions by the fascist new government. 

Whi said it does. Goodness every time. 

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Just now, Wokezone said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1748281/experts-are-divided-on-evo-morales-and-bolivias-alleged-coup/amp/

Despite the economic and humanitarian gains, critics say Morales became increasingly unbothered by democratic norms toward the end of his time in office. In a 2016 referendum, a slim majority of Bolivians voted against amending the constitution to let him run for a fourth term. He ignored the result and turned to the courts. His party claimed that electoral term limits were a human rights violation. In 2017, the Constitutional Court—which opponents say is packed with Morales supporters—struck down those limits. The move deepened the already stark divisions between his supporters in predominantly indigenous rural areas and his mainly metropolitan critics.

 

read that article. This is very nuanced and not at all a cut and dry thing one way or the other 

Disagreeing with the court's decision and Morales winning another election justifies a military coup, blocking his party from entering parliament so a fascist senator could seize power, murdering of protesters, disappearing of leaders within Morales' party, etc... how?

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2 minutes ago, Wokezone said:

Whi said it does. Goodness every time. 

***********, you are not playing this game again. You stated your support for the coup and going with the ******** explanation that it wasn't really a coup.

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Just now, Psychic Gibbon said:

***********, you are not playing this game again. You stated your support for the coup and going with the ******** explanation that it wasn't really a coup.

Of course he’s going to play that game again, that’s literally all he ******* does. 

I blame him solely for Gus Malzahn. 

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Just now, Psychic Gibbon said:

Disagreeing with the court's decision and Morales winning another election justifies a military coup, blocking his party from entering parliament so a fascist senator could seize power, murdering of protesters, disappearing of leaders within Morales' party, etc... how?

Overturning the vote of the people and kicking it your packed court you put in place  for such a situation as the plebes having a differing opinion to give you what you want against the peoples wishes is pretty I dunno... dictator esk. Then when the election comes around you are not supposed to be involved in shows its closeness requires a runoff is the result you shut down the incoming information for 24 hours and declare no need I won handidly. Yeah that's a crisis of civil war proportions in any county

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4 minutes ago, Psychic Gibbon said:

***********, you are not playing this game again. You stated your support for the coup and going with the ******** explanation that it wasn't really a coup.

 

2 minutes ago, mdrake34 said:

Of course he’s going to play that game again, that’s literally all he ******* does. 

I blame him solely for Gus Malzahn. 

Absolutely not.  Your not going to put words in my mouth yet again. I simply commented on your mischaracterization of the situation not what was happening. What is happening there is terrible and this ignoring killing of civilians is unacceptable. 

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6 minutes ago, Wokezone said:

Overturning the vote of the people and kicking it your packed court you put in place  for such a situation as the plebes having a differing opinion to give you what you want against the peoples wishes is pretty I dunno... dictator esk. Then when the election comes around you are not supposed to be involved in shows its closeness requires a runoff is the result you shut down the incoming information for 24 hours and declare no need I won handidly. Yeah that's a crisis of civil war proportions in any county

That was the quick count. It's essentially an exit poll and, as was done in other elections, once the official count began the quick count was suspended. The opposition, however, cried that this was proof that fraud was occurring so to put that to rest the quick count was restarted. It was at that point the quick count started coming in from rural areas that made up the base of Morales' support so his lead, predictably, jumped from ~8% to just over 10%. This was shortly followed by far-right paramilitaries rioting, burning down polling stations (which effectively made it impossible to continue the official count), burning down the homes of Morales' family, etc.

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4 minutes ago, Psychic Gibbon said:

That was the quick count. It's essentially an exit poll and, as was done in other elections, once the official count began the quick count was suspended. The opposition, however, cried that this was proof that fraud was occurring so to put that to rest the quick count was restarted. It was at that point the quick count started coming in from rural areas that made up the base of Morales' support so his lead, predictably, jumped from ~8% to just over 10%. This was shortly followed by far-right paramilitaries rioting, burning down polling stations (which effectively made it impossible to continue the official count), burning down the homes of Morales' family, etc.

That's their version and theres another version. 

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Just now, Wokezone said:

That's their version and theres another version. 

There is no other version. The opposition said well before the election that they weren't going to accept the results, they violently didn't accept the results when they came in, the military and cops launched a coup, installed a fascist to replace Morales, and are now killing people protesting the coup.

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35 minutes ago, Jpowors said:

The other version is from the folks allowing the military to kill civilians without consequences. I mean......

And their version is a socialist doing what socialist tend to do...... become a dictator take pack the courts, change the rules, ignore the peoples vote and then turn to court officials you put in place to rule favorably for you so you essentially become the new supreme leader and ignore results of an election you werent even supposed to be in. 

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the military didn't follow any constitution. they forced everyone in evo's administration in the presidential line of succession to resign until the opposition could seize power. it was a white supremacist and fascist coup. it shouldn't surprise anyone who's now carrying water for those people. 

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Bolivia's electoral system requires a run-off between the top two vote-getters if no presidential candidate wins an outright majority or garners at least 40% of votes, while beating their nearest competitor by at least 10 percentage points.

With more than 80% of the votes tallied, Mesa and Morales appeared headed for a second round. But the count was suddenly halted at around 7:30 p.m. The Organization of American States (OAS), which had been invited to observe the election, expressed alarm.

Almost a day later, the count restarted with tallies showing momentum had shifted dramatically in favor of Morales. He cruised to a 10.5-percentage-point victory, eliminating the need for a runoff.

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3 minutes ago, achilles return said:

the military didn't follow any constitution. they forced everyone in evo's administration in the presidential line of succession to resign until the opposition could seize power. it was a white supremacist and fascist coup. it shouldn't surprise anyone who's now carrying water for those people. 

:lol::lol: white supremacist?? :lol::lol:

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4 minutes ago, Wokezone said:

Bolivia's electoral system requires a run-off between the top two vote-getters if no presidential candidate wins an outright majority or garners at least 40% of votes, while beating their nearest competitor by at least 10 percentage points.

With more than 80% of the votes tallied, Mesa and Morales appeared headed for a second round. But the count was suddenly halted at around 7:30 p.m. The Organization of American States (OAS), which had been invited to observe the election, expressed alarm.

Almost a day later, the count restarted with tallies showing momentum had shifted dramatically in favor of Morales. He cruised to a 10.5-percentage-point victory, eliminating the need for a runoff.

57 minutes ago, Psychic Gibbon said:

That was the quick count. It's essentially an exit poll and, as was done in other elections, once the official count began the quick count was suspended. The opposition, however, cried that this was proof that fraud was occurring so to put that to rest the quick count was restarted. It was at that point the quick count started coming in from rural areas that made up the base of Morales' support so his lead, predictably, jumped from ~8% to just over 10%. This was shortly followed by far-right paramilitaries rioting, burning down polling stations (which effectively made it impossible to continue the official count), burning down the homes of Morales' family, etc.

Do you not read?

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2 minutes ago, Wokezone said:

:lol::lol: white supremacist?? :lol::lol:

as per usual, you insert yourself into issues that you know absolutely nothing about.

keep carrying water for fascists, though!

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4 minutes ago, Wokezone said:

:lol::lol: white supremacist?? :lol::lol:

The person the military and cops put into power has stated that indigenous people are satanic and impure and should stay in the highlands and out of the cities.

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