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4 minutes ago, HolyMoses said:

So Rudy takes the fall.  Trump claims he did not think he was doing anything wrong or illegal because he was acting on the direct advice of counsel.  He get's impeached in the House, censured in the Senate and re-elected.

He then tries to hire the legendary Saul Goodman as his new personal attorney.  Bob Odenkirk politely declines.

FTFY

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4 minutes ago, mdrake34 said:

 

This is why I don’t like twitter for news — the full clip was so much worse than the twitter headline.  And it would only have taken a few more sentences to give his full response.

He started by saying, “well if we’re going to investigate Guiliani then let’s investigate Biden.”

Then asked about Trump’s children’s conflicts, he says (paraphrasing here) that we shouldn’t try to criminalize everything politicians and their kids do and we shouldn’t descend into investigating everybody on the other side because of politics...WHICH IS WHAT HE JUST SUPPORTED.  

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6 minutes ago, HolyMoses said:

So Rudy takes the fall.  Trump claims he did not think he was doing anything wrong or illegal because he was acting on the direct advice of counsel.  He get's impeached in the House, censured in the Senate and re-elected.

 

Why are people so confident about Trump’s reelection?

He only won by 140k votes spread across three traditional Democratic states.  His popularity is way down from when he was elected and half of the public wants him removed from office.  He’s lost a lot of the people who voted for him and I don’t see where he is making up that ground by drawing Clinton supporters to his side.

He barely won, in other words, and everything he’s done since then has lowered his base of support.  

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Just now, Wokezone said:

Ah ok middle east drama.

Pretty much.  Also been talking about the impeachment inquiry and the witnesses.  Looks like Rudy could be in trouble.

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2 minutes ago, Leon Troutsky said:

Why are people so confident about Trump’s reelection?

He only won by 140k votes spread across three traditional Democratic states.  His popularity is way down from when he was elected and half of the public wants him removed from office.  He’s lost a lot of the people who voted for him and I don’t see where he is making up that ground by drawing Clinton supporters to his side.

He barely won, in other words, and everything he’s done since then has lowered his base of support.  

I think it's more of a sentiment of "Well, how are the Democrats going to manage to **** this one up?"

And you can't blame them. Most here are Atlanta sports fans so we came about that sentiment honestly. 

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1 minute ago, Leon Troutsky said:

Pretty much.  Also been talking about the impeachment inquiry and the witnesses.  Looks like Rudy could be in trouble.

Im so ready for us not to need the middle east for oil.  It's nonstop drama and war. Just move on to green energy and let them fight among themselves forever without us being in the middle of the squabbles.

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1 minute ago, Leon Troutsky said:

Why are people so confident about Trump’s reelection?

He only won by 140k votes spread across three traditional Democratic states.  His popularity is way down from when he was elected and half of the public wants him removed from office.  He’s lost a lot of the people who voted for him and I don’t see where he is making up that ground by drawing Clinton supporters to his side.

He barely won, in other words, and everything he’s done since then has lowered his base of support.  

The Democrats are deeply uninspiring, the media's made a million promises about Trump that never pay off, and the media's going to say whoever's running against Trump is doing better than him in the polls, all of which makes it feel like the Democrats and the media are just playing the same game they lost in 2016. It doesn't really even look like any of them understand that Trump's going to try to win by splitting the base for the Democrats, not just trying to make himself more popular.

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1 minute ago, Serge said:

The Democrats are deeply uninspiring, the media's made a million promises about Trump that never pay off, and the media's going to say whoever's running against Trump is doing better than him in the polls, all of which makes it feel like the Democrats and the media are just playing the same game they lost in 2016. It doesn't really even look like any of them understand that Trump's going to try to win by splitting the base for the Democrats, not just trying to make himself more popular.

Plus you're going to have the biggest social media platform actively working against the Dem nominee, especially if it's Warren. 

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8 minutes ago, Gritzblitz 2.0 said:

Plus you're going to have the biggest social media platform actively working against the Dem nominee, especially if it's Warren. 

Warren or Sanders would face major opposition outside of the Republicans and traditional right-wing media if either won the nomination, and if Biden wins it, the media's going to say he's ahead in the polls every day until election day, and then fewer people are going to vote for him than voted for Hillary.

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28 minutes ago, Leon Troutsky said:

Pretty much.  Also been talking about the impeachment inquiry and the witnesses.  Looks like Rudy could be in trouble.

Could Ruby actually end up in Prison!??? :rolleyes:

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57 minutes ago, Big_Dog said:

The last lady that was interested in you wasn't that impressive. Did she need a license to be that ugly?

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... unfortunately your old *** eyes ain't beholding nothing.

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11 minutes ago, Serge said:

The Democrats are deeply uninspiring, the media's made a million promises about Trump that never pay off, and the media's going to say whoever's running against Trump is doing better than him in the polls, all of which makes it feel like the Democrats and the media are just playing the same game they lost in 2016. It doesn't really even look like any of them understand that Trump's going to try to win by splitting the base for the Democrats, not just trying to make himself more popular.

Again, none of that addresses the basic underlying fact — Trump barely won and since he took office he has turned off far more people than he has brought over to his side.  It’s not just about making himself more popular, it’s about him actively losing tens of millions of voters and doing nothing to bring them back to his side.  The only thing that I can see that would cause those people to vote for him is if the economy starts booming and things settle down to some semblance of normalcy when it comes to foreign policy.  

2018 showed that the Democratic base is far more fired up than Republicans.  Yeah, he can try to divide them but I don’t know a lot of moderate Dems who would vote for Trump against Warren or who would just stay at home.  

At some point, all of these elaborate grand theories have to give way to a basic underlying mathematical reality — Trump has less support now than when he won the election and nothing he’s done has brought those voters back to his side.  

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1 minute ago, Leon Troutsky said:

Again, none of that addresses the basic underlying fact — Trump barely won and since he took office he has turned off far more people than he has brought over to his side.  It’s not just about making himself more popular, it’s about him actively losing tens of millions of voters and doing nothing to bring them back to his side.  The only thing that I can see that would cause those people to vote for him is if the economy starts booming and things settle down to some semblance of normalcy when it comes to foreign policy.  

2018 showed that the Democratic base is far more fired up than Republicans.  Yeah, he can try to divide them but I don’t know a lot of moderate Dems who would vote for Trump against Warren or who would just stay at home.  

At some point, all of these elaborate grand theories have to give way to a basic underlying mathematical reality — Trump has less support now than when he won the election and nothing he’s done has brought those voters back to his side.  

How is he losing tens of millions of voters? Has his popularity actually shifted enough to indicate that he's gonna end up with 30 or 40 million votes instead of 60? As far as I can tell his followers are loyal to a fault, whereas the Democrat that wins the nomination is going to lose millions of votes from people that refuse to vote for that sort of candidate as a Democrat.

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18 minutes ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said:

Could Ruby actually end up in Prison!??? :rolleyes:

Micheal Cohens cellmate hopefully. 

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2 minutes ago, Serge said:

How is he losing tens of millions of voters? Has his popularity actually shifted enough to indicate that he's gonna end up with 30 or 40 million votes instead of 60? As far as I can tell his followers are loyal to a fault, whereas the Democrat that wins the nomination is going to lose millions of votes from people that refuse to vote for that sort of candidate as a Democrat.

Simple, he started with around a 45.5% approval rating.  He’s down to about 41.5%. So 4% of the people who supported him in the beginning no longer support him.

4% of the US population is around 14 million people.  

And when you look at the polls asking people if they would vote for Trump again, the numbers are even worse for him.  Across the board, there’s been a major shift of support away from Trump and no evidence that he has picked up voters to offset those losses.

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3 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

Hunter Biden regrets a lot. He regrets a lot only after he's been caught.

He didn't do anything wrong, but he regrets doing it.:rolleyes:

Speaking of China, the country—not known for its friendliness to American brands claiming intellectual property rights—has granted Ivanka Trump 34 trademarks since her father took office. At least three were approved the same day she dined, in her capacity as a presidential aide, with Chinese president Xi Jinping at Mar-a-Lago in March 2017. Another batch of trademarks were granted in the days before and after President Trump publicly announced he would take steps to keep Chinese cellphone manufacturer ZTE afloat.

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Just now, Leon Troutsky said:

Simple, he started with around a 45.5% approval rating.  He’s down to about 41.5%. So 4% of the people who supported him in the beginning no longer support him.

4% of the US population is around 14 million people.  

And when you look at the polls asking people if they would vote for Trump again, the numbers are even worse for him.  Across the board, there’s been a major shift of support away from Trump and no evidence that he has picked up voters to offset those losses.

By that logic he started out with about 150 million supporters and it's dropped to about 136 million. There probably won't be 136 million voters total in 2020.

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