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Not the new Donald Trump Presidency thread

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53 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

@Big_Dog and many of the other Lemmings on here, Mazie Hirono say Dem Politicians are too smart for their constituents and that's why they don't connect you...okay

 

This is revealing, albeit not in the way you think it is. 

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On 9/13/2019 at 2:27 PM, Billy Ocean said:

Nobody on Wall Street could explain how he made his money. I’m guessing Ponzi scheme, with elements of extortion racket.

 

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1 hour ago, Billy Ocean said:

 

somebody should tell these guys that Bernie wants to take their health care away.

They probably all have ambitions for leadership in the union and are just sucking up to him or sum****.

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6 minutes ago, Sn4tteRBoxXeR said:

 

Here's the thing that no one seems to be worried about;  "I have no obligation to be honest with the media . . . "  (He actually continued that it was because the media isn't honest . . .)

He was NOT being dishonest with the MEDIA!!!!.  

HE WAS BEING DISHONEST TO THE AUDIENCE.  

HE WAS BEING DISHONEST TO AMERICA.

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This is why congressional hearings related to impeachment need to start and finish with lawyers questioning the witnesses.  Yesterday's hearing was a complete s*** show because Dems were grandstanding and asking questions to make political points and because Lewandowski was using stupid games to not answer questions and stalling for time.  

Then the House Judiciary lawyer got 30 minutes to question Lewandowski and actually got somewhere.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/18/it-was-chaos-then-real-lawyer-showed-up/

Here’s what he accomplished:

1. Berke forced Lewandowski to acknowledge that when he said on national television multiple times he would “voluntarily” appear before special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, that was false. Berke demonstrated Lewandowski also lied when he said on TV he had not been asked to testify. Lewandowski asserted he had no obligation to tell the media (and the public) the truth.

2. Berke made plain that Lewandowski took the Fifth and refused to testify for the special counsel unless granted immunity. He also showed Lewandowski clips of him publicly stating that when you take the Fifth, you’ve done something wrong.

3. Berke established that before asking Lewandowski to take a message to then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions, the White House just so happened to dangle a White House job before him.

4. Berke established that Lewandowski was absolutely loyal to Trump yet never delivered the message.

5. Berke also established that Lewandowski wanted to have a private meeting with Sessions so there would be no record.

In short, Berke made perfectly clear that Lewandowski’s actions (refusing to deliver Trump’s instructions, demanding immunity, lying on TV, creating no record) demonstrated he knew he was being asked to do something wrong or illegal.

Now, that doesn’t show Trump thought he was doing something illegal, but Berke did underscore a finding of the Mueller report (which few read) that Trump instructed Lewandowski to talk to Sessions to curtail the Russia investigation. This is one of the clearest instances of obstruction, one that Mueller found met all the elements of the crime of obstruction. And along the way, Berke demonstrated that Lewandowski, who declared his candidacy for the U.S. Senate, is a habitual liar who thinks nothing of lying publicly as long as he is not under oath.

^^^This should have been the beginning of the hearing, not the ending of it after hours of stupidity and nonsense.  If Democrats are serious about oversight and holding Trump accountable, they need to step back from the spotlight and let legal professionals handle it.

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33 minutes ago, Psychic Gibbon said:

 

Watch out for Trump and his Sharpie.

Give him access to that map and we'll be at war in no time.

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5 minutes ago, Leon Troutsky said:

Now, that doesn’t show Trump thought he was doing something illegal, but Berke did underscore a finding of the Mueller report (which few read) that Trump instructed Lewandowski to talk to Sessions to curtail the Russia investigation. This is one of the clearest instances of obstruction, one that Mueller found met all the elements of the crime of obstruction. And along the way, Berke demonstrated that Lewandowski, who declared his candidacy for the U.S. Senate, is a habitual liar who thinks nothing of lying publicly as long as he is not under oath.

^^^This should have been the beginning of the hearing, not the ending of it after hours of stupidity and nonsense.  If Democrats are serious about oversight and holding Trump accountable, they need to step back from the spotlight and let legal professionals handle it.

I'm not sure if his Senate-run is serious, but there's going to be some ****ing oppo-ads if someone is willing to pay for them

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2 hours ago, mdrake34 said:

It looks as if guns are a higher priority than abortion for him.

Abortions have been kicked over to the states and if it goes to scotus ther should be enough votes now to overturn it so I doubt it gets challenged beyond the state level for awhile

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