Dirtybird3 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 With the pics signed and all these depth signings what little funds do we have left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 We have a bit under 3 million I believe Dirtybird3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeg272 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Falconsin2012 said: We have a bit under 3 million I believe Is that number with the money we will get June 1st calculated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, mikeg272 said: Is that number with the money we will get June 1st calculated? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theProf Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Dirtybird3 said: With the pics signed and all these depth signings what little funds do we have left? Very little cap space left, until June 2, when Schraeders $6.45 million in cap savings will be added back. Spotrac is showing $2.3 million of available cap-space, but this amount does not include Lindstrom's signing. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/atlanta-falcons/cap/ OvertheCap is showing $1.26 million of available cap space. https://overthecap.com/calculator/atlanta-falcons/ hashmark61 and Dirtybird3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theProf Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 16 hours ago, theProf said: Very little cap space left, until June 2, when Schraeders $6.45 million in cap savings will be added back. Spotrac is showing $2.3 million of available cap-space, but this amount does not include Lindstrom's signing. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/atlanta-falcons/cap/ Spotrac has now updated for the Lindstrom signing, and now shows only $129,834 of remaining cap-space at this point. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/atlanta-falcons/cap/ Flying Falcon and hashmark61 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Should be interesting once Schraeder's hit comes off the books and they figure out Grady and Julio. May end up around $10MM in space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
federicofalcon2 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Spotrac shows as of today including Lindstrom's contract we have about $129,000. We're actually almost 20,000,000 over the cap, but that includes the full 90 man roster, which will dramatically come down when we get down to 53 in a few months. but restructures of GJ and JJ as well as the June 1 cap should put us back into the 10-20 million dollar area theoretically. Flying Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FalconFanSince1970 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 On 5/16/2019 at 5:41 PM, theProf said: Very little cap space left, until June 2, when Schraeders $6.45 million in cap savings will be added back. Spotrac is showing $2.3 million of available cap-space, but this amount does not include Lindstrom's signing. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/atlanta-falcons/cap/ OvertheCap is showing $1.26 million of available cap space. https://overthecap.com/calculator/atlanta-falcons/ Overthecap is all wacked up right now. They show us at $1,230,462 but they: Still show Fusco on the cap Don't include Hageman's hit Are showing a few vet hits incorrectly Have several rookie hits shown wrong Spotrac shows us at $129,834 but they: Show Langford as an IR hit which I'm not sure should be included Might be incorrectly totalling their Top 51 players I show us at $1,708,782 but I: Am not including Langford as an IR hit I think we should wait a couple weeks for Shredder's $6,450,000 to kick in. By then all the cap sites should be trued up. We should be somewhere between $6.6M and 8.2M. Enough to add two or three more low to mid tier vets before camp starts. Maybe a DE, LB and DB. Dirtybird3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheap Talk Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 3 hours ago, FalconFanSince1970 said: Overthecap is all wacked up right now. They show us at $1,230,462 but they: Still show Fusco on the cap Don't include Hageman's hit Are showing a few vet hits incorrectly Have several rookie hits shown wrong Spotrac shows us at $129,834 but they: Show Langford as an IR hit which I'm not sure should be included Might be incorrectly totalling their Top 51 players I show us at $1,708,782 but I: Am not including Langford as an IR hit I think we should wait a couple weeks for Shredder's $6,450,000 to kick in. By then all the cap sites should be trued up. We should be somewhere between $6.6M and 8.2M. Enough to add two or three more low to mid tier vets before camp starts. Maybe a DE, LB and DB. You are pretty darn close! My calculations estimate that we will have $7.5M after the June 1st/2nd cuts go into effect. That is really good for this time of year, and could even go higher if we sign Jarret and Jones before training camp. Could be a lot of much needed money to carry over for next year. It does not have to be spent this year just because it is there, however could see them adding a NB or Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 On 5/17/2019 at 0:57 PM, federicofalcon2 said: Spotrac shows as of today including Lindstrom's contract we have about $129,000. We're actually almost 20,000,000 over the cap, but that includes the full 90 man roster, which will dramatically come down when we get down to 53 in a few months. but restructures of GJ and JJ as well as the June 1 cap should put us back into the 10-20 million dollar area theoretically. That’s not how it works. Only the top-51 salaries ever count towards the cap. The current extra 39 past that are irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theProf Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Beef said: That’s not how it works. Only the top-51 salaries ever count towards the cap. The current extra 39 past that are irrelevant. That is true during the off-season, but is NOT true once the regular season begins. "Do all player count against their team’s Salary Cap? Yes, once the season has started, all players – whether on the 53-man roster, Injured Reserve (IR), Physically Unable to Perform (PUP) or the Practice Squad (PS) – count against the team’s Salary Cap. The only players that do not count against the Salary Cap are players who are on one of the NFL’s exempt lists. So, how is the Salary Cap calculated during the offseason, when team rosters can total up to a maximum of 90 players? Obviously, it would be impossible for teams to fit all 90 players under the Salary Cap, so the CBA contains provisions that limit the Salary Cap calculation to the highest 51 Salary Cap numbers on the team and all signing (and option) bonus pro-rations and all rosters bonuses. This rule – the Rule of 51 – is in effect from the beginning of the league year in March until the first game of the regular season. The impact of the Rule of 51 is felt when a teams signs a new player and the former 51st player drops off the team’s Rule of 51 Cap number. For example, this means that if the new player has a Cap number of $1M, his signing doesn’t actually reduce the team’s Cap by $1M, but by the net of the $1M less the base salary of the former 51st player. Any bonus proration for that former 51st player remains." https://russellstreetreport.com/salarycap/nfl-salary-cap-faqs/ citsalp and Flying Falcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheap Talk Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, theProf said: That is true during the off-season, but is NOT true once the regular season begins. "Do all player count against their team’s Salary Cap? Yes, once the season has started, all players – whether on the 53-man roster, Injured Reserve (IR), Physically Unable to Perform (PUP) or the Practice Squad (PS) – count against the team’s Salary Cap. The only players that do not count against the Salary Cap are players who are on one of the NFL’s exempt lists. How much Cap space would the Practice Squad amount to, once the season has begun? Edited May 19, 2019 by Cheap Talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theProf Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Cheap Talk said: How much Cap space would the Practice Squad amount to, once the season has begun? Practice Squad salaries are $8,000 per game in 2019 or $136,000 per year. Since there are 10 players on the Practice Squad, that would amount to $1,360,000 of cap-space for the Practice Squad. (The minimum rookie salary for a player on the 53-man roster is $495,000 per year for 2019). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler11 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 3 hours ago, theProf said: Practice Squad salaries are $8,000 per game in 2019 or $136,000 per year. Since there are 10 players on the Practice Squad, that would amount to $1,360,000 of cap-space for the Practice Squad. (The minimum rookie salary for a player on the 53-man roster is $495,000 per year for 2019). Those are minimum salaries for practice squad guys though - a team can theoretically pay them as much as they like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheap Talk Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 4 hours ago, theProf said: Practice Squad salaries are $8,000 per game in 2019 or $136,000 per year. Since there are 10 players on the Practice Squad, that would amount to $1,360,000 of cap-space for the Practice Squad. (The minimum rookie salary for a player on the 53-man roster is $495,000 per year for 2019). Thanks! So another $2.26M in Cap space, bringing the Falcons carry-over for next year at around, $5.0M. Not bad it stays there, and there are minimal injuries. Of course there could be some added space from Jarrett/Jones agreements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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