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5 minutes ago, falconidae said:

Is it too much to ask to mike the questions as well? murmur murmur murmur, DQ well, yes, of course...

Seriously or closed caption it for later.

That said this is where Quinn excels as a head coach and it makes a positive difference in the team. Definitely need him to spark a few rookies and 2nd year guys to be consistent contributors

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18 minutes ago, falconidae said:

Is it too much to ask to mike the questions as well? murmur murmur murmur, DQ well, yes, of course...

DQ has like 12 stock statements that cover any question he is ever asked.  

“So Coach Quinn,  do you think the humans can survive the asteroid about to impact earth?

Quinn:  Great question.  Most definitely I do.  We have to run fast and physical.  But it’s much deeper than than.  How do you run faster?  How do you get more physical?  It’s like a heavyweight fight.  We will find out when the asteroid hits.”

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1 hour ago, Falconsin2012 said:

DQ has like 12 stock statements that cover any question he is ever asked.  

“So Coach Quinn,  do you think the humans can survive the asteroid about to impact earth?

Quinn:  Great question.  Most definitely I do.  We have to run fast and physical.  But it’s much deeper than than.  How do you run faster?  How do you get more physical?  It’s like a heavyweight fight.  We will find out when the asteroid hits.”

"I'm so pumped to get out there & connect with the asteroid!"

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1 hour ago, falconidae said:

Is it too much to ask to mike the questions as well? murmur murmur murmur, DQ well, yes, of course...

Yes. That is so annoying  & I feel like there's no financial reason not to address the issue. I'd imagine all they need to do is seat the journalists with a narrow aisle between them in the middle of the room. Then place two people holding condenser mics on booms in the room, one on each side of the room. If a reporter with a question is on the left side, the person on the left can move the mic over them to pick up the audio... same for the other side of the room.

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29 minutes ago, k-train said:

"I'm so pumped to get out there & connect with the asteroid!"

It’s better than Koetter

Buccaneers coach Dirk Koetter is making us question our sanity

Your guys are your guys.”

Whose words these are I think I know.

They’re Dirk Koetter’s.

Well, I don’t know that they’re actually his. The Buccaneers coach wasn’t the first person to ever utter them. But he has said them. Many times. And he has said that he has said them many times many times.

• Aug. 12, 2017, on kickers: “As I said many times last year, your guys are your guys. I sank 100 percent of my belief in our guys, and I hope they do the same.”

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• Sept. 4, 2017, on safeties: “As I've said many times, your guys are your guys, so whatever guys we have, I think they're the best 53 in the world.”

• Sept. 18, 2017, on the defensive line: “We had this conversation last week — your guys are your guys. Once you’ve got them, you’ve got them.”

• Oct. 16, 2017, on the defensive line, again: “Our two sacks came from the defensive tackles, but your guys are your guys. You’ve just got to keep working.”

• Feb. 28, 2018, on winning close games: “Your guys are your guys every year, so I’m not one to look back and whine about the players that we have. Your players are your players.”

• June 12, 2018, on the offensive line: “Those are our guys. As I say all the time, your guys are your guys, and you better feel great about them because that’s who you’ve got.”

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• Oct. 18, 2018, on the defensive line, again: “Your guys are your guys. Whoever you have, whoever you’ve got going, they’re going.”

• And most recently at his Thursday news conference, in reference to the offensive line, again:

“I’ve talked to you guys about this before — your players are your players,” he said. “Whoever your players are, you’re going to coach them, you’re going to game plan them, you’re going to try to do the things that we believe in.”

Your guys are your guys, and your players are your players.

Koetter is no Robert Frost, but his words have layers.

On the surface, they seem straightforward. He’s a coach making the most literal statement possible about his team.

Koetter’s words are deeper, however. There is a resignation to them, an acceptance that this is as good as it will get. There’s a wish in there, too, a longing for something better.

It’s tempting to think of what could be, but Koetter can’t do that. It’s useless. There is no “what could be.” In March maybe, but in December, there is only “what is.”

So when reporters and fans ask Koetter about the performance of his offensive line, he can’t give an honest assessment. He hears the whistles in the distance, reminding him of the games ahead. The task is not to be transparent. The task is to win. And to win, he needs to make the most of what he has. And to make the most of what he has, he needs his players to believe he has confidence in them.

 

That’s why he’ll defend left tackle Donovan Smith, who is playing about as well today as his did as a rookie in 2015.

“I know Donovan is a guy that gets graded down by the football gurus out there, but when you start looking around at the left tackles in the league and the guys you can get, my challenge would be — who do you want to take his place?” Koetter said recently. “That’s a very small number. It’s extremely small. I think Donovan is always there, he’ll play through injury, very smart, powerful, athletic. I think the only knock that you could get on Donovan Smith is that he could be a little bit more consistent, but you could probably say that about every player on the field.”

It’s true that at this moment there isn’t anyone the Bucs could acquire that would be better than Smith, but that is a way of talking around the problem. I compiled a list of left tackles who have outperformed Smith this season, and it’s not a small number (players are in alphabetical order):

Terron Armstead (Saints), David Bakhtiari (Packers), Kelvin Beachum (Jets), Garett Bolles (Broncos), Duane Brown (Texans), Trent Brown (Patriots) and Anthony Castonzo (Colts).

Dion Dawkins (Bills), Taylor Decker (Lions), Charles Leno (Bears), Taylor Lewan (Titans), Jake Matthews (Falcons), Russell Okung (Chargers) and Tyron Smith (Cowboys).

Nate Solder (Giants), Joe Staley (49ers), Ronnie Stanley (Ravens), Laremy Tunsil (Dolphins), Alejandro Villanueva (Steelers), Andrew Whitworth (Rams) and Trent Williams (Washington).

Each of those players has allowed pressure at a lower rate than Smith.

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Koetter is doing what you’d expect, and even want, a coach to do. He’s covering for his players. A coach isn’t going to say a player is bad, especially if he senses that the player would bristle at public criticism. That’s a surefire way to lose a locker room. Instead, a coach is going to say things like “he is always there” and “he could be a little bit more consistent.”

There’s covering for your players, and then there’s gaslighting, territory Koetter approached this week.

“Our offense is also top 10 in seven categories,” he said Thursday. “We’re (complaining) about the O-linemen — they’ve contributed to that top 10 in those seven categories.”

Actually, the Bucs offense is in the top 10 in more than seven categories. Among them: points scored, total yards, yards per play, touchdowns, completions, passing yards, passing first downs, third-down conversion percentage and explosive plays. Some advanced measures, however, have the offense, which has been regressing for weeks, closer to league average.

“We can make those stats and those grades that other people do,” Koetter said. “I can make those grades say whatever I want them to — you guys probably can, too.”

The outlets Koetter is referencing don’t exist because they’re interested in making up stats and grades. They exist because they’re interested in bringing football analysis out of the Dark Ages. Coaches and columnists have gone unchecked for decades, and when faced with information that challenges their beliefs, they do what most people do — they double down and seek to undermine the credibility of it rather than alter their attitudes.

The Bucs can dismiss the grades and suggest that they’re subjective. They’ve done so for years. It’s in their best interests, after all, to insist that they know things that others don’t. The fact is an abundance of data supports the argument that the offensive line is a serious liability. It allows defenders to hit quarterbacks and stuff running backs far too often. The weakest links: the left tackle and the right guard. Though truth always limps after falsehood, in time it becomes impossible to deny: While these are indeed Koetter’s guys, he — or the coach who follows him — needs better ones.

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1 hour ago, k-train said:

Yes. That is so annoying  & I feel like there's no financial reason not to address the issue. I'd imagine all they need to do is seat the journalists with a narrow aisle between them in the middle of the room. Then place two people holding condenser mics on booms in the room, one on each side of the room. If a reporter with a question is on the left side, the person on the left can move the mic over them to pick up the audio... same for the other side of the room.

The way they have hit now you have to watch the interview and then read it. Maybe that’s what they want. This seems like an old issue with an easy solution. That tells me they don’t want to fix it. 

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