Chitown2ATL_Falcon

No Super Bowl for Ryan

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The core of a defense that got us to tye sb and made enough.plays to win is intact, and the rookies have matured into season vets. Sucks that we lost to shans ego but the defense is good enough to win if healthy. 

if this team.can run tye ball and.control clock when it matters we can beat anyone but ourselves.

P.s. You have no clue what your talking about

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2 hours ago, Chitown2ATL_Falcon said:

I predict no Super Bowl for Ryan no matter how good the offense is.  It will take 3-5 years for the Falcons to build a defense that can win a Super Bowl.  This was the last chance for them to try and do it within the next 2 years and they failed.  Quinn may be a defensive mastermind, but he needs something to work with and so far the Front Office has not given him much material to work with.  Our defense once again will be in the bottom half of the defensive rankings.

The defense is not good enough to win the Super Bowl.  We are not Patriots. We are not going to outscore teams in a shootout. 

Or even worse, heaven forbid Ryan goes down and out for the season.  Then what.  All that money and draft picks invested on the offensive side of the ball just went to waste.  

So time to find another team to root for.  Not giving up on the Falcons.  Just not expecting much for now.  Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised one day. 

Until then, will add another team to root for, Will also root for the Giants since my nephew plays for them.  I know they are not going to the Super Bowl either.  But at least they understand that defense wins championships.

So just so you know, I'm not leaving.  Will just be lurking, hoping for the best, and expecting the worse.

 

Matt Ryan make it to the SB and NFCCG with an average defense. Now we have an offensive line that can help us hold on to leads. We can draft defense next year. Protecting Matt is #1 priority.

 

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1 hour ago, MD-FalconFan13 said:

The O-Line was not great, but it was not the weakest unit at all. We had the 2nd worst run defense and bottom 8 pass defense. We also had 2 O-Lineman make the Probowl last year. 

This over exaggeration of our offensive line woes needs to stop. Ee were great,  but we had other areas that were much weaker last season and others that will be weaker this season due to departures. 

Thanks for your opinion, but I disagree.  We could not pick up 3rd/2 or 3rd/1 to save our lives.  The O-line collapsed and caved in on a regular basis.  

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3 hours ago, MD-FalconFan13 said:

The O-Line was not great, but it was not the weakest unit at all. We had the 2nd worst run defense and bottom 8 pass defense. We also had 2 O-Lineman make the Probowl last year. 

This over exaggeration of our offensive line woes needs to stop. We weren't great,  but we had other areas that were much weaker last season and others that will be weaker this season due to departures. 

So to fix that we fired pretty much the person responsible for coaching that defense and the dline positon coach responsible for the individual group in question and replaced him with one of the more highly qualified in the nfl.

Pass defense we get back Debo Neal & the glue Rico back.

The idea that this defense is going to be the same as last year tells me your  not tuned into what’s going on here.

The decisions made to go Oline wasn’t something I picked but I can see why and the importance and ramifications financially down the track by investing like they did.

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At Cornell university, they have a piece of equipment called the scanning  tunneling microscope. With it, you can see inside the atom, the very building block of our universe. If I was using that microscope right now, I still couldn’t locate my interest in your opinion on our SB chances. 

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17 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said:

So to fix that we fired pretty much the person responsible for coaching that defense and the dline positon coach responsible for the individual group in question and replaced him with one of the more highly qualified in the nfl.

Pass defense we get back Debo Neal & the glue Rico back.

The idea that this defense is going to be the same as last year tells me your  not tuned into what’s going on here.

The decisions made to go Oline wasn’t something I picked but I can see why and the importance and ramifications financially down the track by investing like they did.

At it's absolute best the defense isn't as good as the offense on a B day. When the offense is clicking it's top 3 in the league. The defense is barely top 10 even if it's playing out of it's mind .

In 2017 with Rico,  Debo and Keanu the defense wasn't top 10.

Everyone sees how the picks can help,  but to pretend like the O-Line needed more help than the front 7 is laughable 

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Just now, MD-FalconFan13 said:

At it's absolute best the defense isn't as good as the offense on a B day. When the offense is clicking it's top 3 in the league. The defense is barely top 10 even if it's playing out of it's mind .

Everyone sees how the picks can help,  but to pretend like the O-Line needed more help than the front 7 is laughable 

That’s why you put a defensive line coaching specialist to coach that side of the ball.They’ve identified that issue and DQ has said enough is enough and I bet you’ll see the difference.

Hes backing himself just like he did when every fan saying off load Beasley Quinn said no I’ll get him back to where he should be.I think he’s taken it personally and didn’t like one bit of what he saw from that defense last year.

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4 hours ago, Chitown2ATL_Falcon said:

I predict no Super Bowl for Ryan no matter how good the offense is.  It will take 3-5 years for the Falcons to build a defense that can win a Super Bowl.  This was the last chance for them to try and do it within the next 2 years and they failed.  Quinn may be a defensive mastermind, but he needs something to work with and so far the Front Office has not given him much material to work with.  Our defense once again will be in the bottom half of the defensive rankings.

The defense is not good enough to win the Super Bowl.  We are not Patriots. We are not going to outscore teams in a shootout. 

Or even worse, heaven forbid Ryan goes down and out for the season.  Then what.  All that money and draft picks invested on the offensive side of the ball just went to waste.  

So time to find another team to root for.  Not giving up on the Falcons.  Just not expecting much for now.  Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised one day. 

Until then, will add another team to root for, Will also root for the Giants since my nephew plays for them.  I know they are not going to the Super Bowl either.  But at least they understand that defense wins championships.

So just so you know, I'm not leaving.  Will just be lurking, hoping for the best, and expecting the worse.

 

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4 hours ago, UGABOZ said:

pretty weird draft 

As usual.  Under TD & Quinn they have never drafted the designated elite.  It always seems to be a draft of "Harry Snodgrasses" i.e. "he was the best fit for this team at this position".

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Ehh….. let the man vent. Obviously he needs a breather.

The Falcons have driven all of us close to the edge at one time or another.....its all part of being a fan.

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There is minimal "obvious" improvement from this draft to this team (2012 draft redux?).  However, this team, fortunately, did not need for this draft to improve heavily from this draft.

The places were this team could have improved itself were obvious - OL, DL, & CB.  The OL was given some chance of improvement with the first 2 picks, but not obvious improvement.  The interior DL was ignored, but a replacement for Brooks Reed at DE was maybe given with the Charleston guy.  And, the CB position might have at least replaced prior personnel, but not clearly improved upon the prior situation.

Even if this draft did not improve the team, for it to go into the season with only interior DL not improved while perhaps restrengthening itself at S with players returning from injuries and perhaps at OL with significant additions from FA and the draft, we can still be hopeful for it to have strength.

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13 hours ago, Jesus said:

The Rams built a defense to win a super bowl then lost it because their offense turded.

In Super Bowl XXXV, Dilfer was 12 of 25 for 153 yards one touchdown and one fumble, which was recovered by the Ravens. That gave Dilfer a quarterback rating of 80.9. The Ravens had 244 total yards.

In Super Bowl 50, Manning was 13 of 23 for 141 yards, threw no touchdowns and had one interception. He fumbled twice and lost one. That gave him a quarterback rating of 56.6.

Denver won with just 194 yards of offense, the fewest of any team in Super Bowl history. The previous low of 244 yards was set by the 2000 Ravens.

"I certainly knew that with this defense, this team would have a chance," Manning said Sunday night. "From the get-go, they've been nothing about awesome.”

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