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Tony Pauline: Falcons eyeing DT, CB, or trade down in first round

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Per the super-plugged-in reporter, Thomas Dimitroff now knows he can trade down in the draft.

By Matthew Chambers Apr 11, 2019, 7:18pm EDT
 

We have spent the last few weeks at the Falcoholic trying to figure out how far up the Falcons will need to trade to land Ed Oliver. We may be on the wrong trail entirely with Thomas Dimitroff rumored to do what he’s never done before: trade down in the first round.

Tony Pauline, the long-time draft analyst and first reporter linking the Falcons to Keanu Neal back in 2016, and reported the Falcons were discussing trading up with the Seahawks in 2017 before trading up with the Seahawks in 2017, has more Falcons news.

And it’s huge, per The Draft Analysts podcast with Pauline and Chris Tripodi.

I’m told that they really want to take a cornerback with the 14th pick but they realize the better value will be at defensive tackle. And that’s the way I expect them to go if they can’t trade down.

Pauline, who linked the Falcons heavily to Da’Ron Payne last season, suggests they still are looking for a tackle that can help win in the trenches. When Payne was drafted, the Falcons decided against drafting for need and went with better value in Calvin Ridley.

Pauline mentions Greedy Williams, Ed Oliver, Christian Wilkins, and Dexter Lawrence as potential fits but does not state the Falcons are actually interested in any of those players. Pauline believed Lawrence could be a Payne-type of big body in the middle and he has received a lot of positive attention this offseason.

There was no mention of a trade up, a defensive end, or offensive lineman. The Falcons could certainly use depth at corner, but a starter only makes sense if they plan to move on from Desmond Trufant’s salary after 2019. He’d save the team $10.75 million if designated as a post-June 1st cut.

Quinn recently identified his top three draft needs as DB, DE, and DT. Pauline’s report is consistent with that statement but provides some additional information on the team’s plans. It is possible the staff expects to miss out on top defensive end prospects by 14 or they like later round players.

If the Falcons succeed in trading down, they will almost certainly keep trading. They currently hold 9 draft picks which is already too many to realistically fit on their 53-man roster.

 

https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2019/4/11/18307006/tony-pauline-falcons-eyeing-dt-cb-or-trade-down-nfl-draft-ed-oliver-greedy-williams

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It will all depend of course on how the draft actually goes and who it looks like might be available if we stay put.

I wouldn't worry too much about the number of picks vs the room we have on the 53 man. It was mentioned in this commentary and it's been mentioned on TATF as well when talking about moving up. Well not all of our picks will stick, and it's possible things will change on the current roster as well. 

I certainly wouldn't be opposed to having too many players to choose from and making those tough choices. That leads to real QUALITY depth.

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1 minute ago, AlabamaFalconFan said:

Or a safety, or OG.  I know one thing is for certainty, we will be Troffed lol.

I wouldn't oppose drafting a safety. Maybe DeAndre Baker.

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There are too many good 2nd rd corners and Murphy/Baker/Greedy haven’t separated themselves enough for me to take a Corner in 1st rd - even with a Trade Down.  If we are locked into those two positions- DT/CB and we aren’t interested in Wilkins - then we should trade down about 10 spots, pick up draft capital and take either Jeffrey Simmons or Dexter Lawrence.

 I think I would rather take Simmons in that scenario even though he is hurt - he’s a Top 10 talent and if we can get him plus a 2nd rd pick or a 3rd plus something else then like a 4th or 3rd in 2020, then do it.   Simmons would start 2019 on PUP and then probably ready by Week 9.  You don’t draft players for the first 8 games of rookie season - team building is a process not a microwave oven.

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2 hours ago, Gold4425 said:

Makes sense but TD and the FO is unpredictable, add the fact of the 14th pick which can end up in several different ways there will be a lot of going back and forth the next two weeks.

Yep. If theres one thing Ive learned during TD era it’s that the FO will probably do the least expected thing possible. 

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I guess people are ignoring the fact that trufant may be a June 1st cut.  We need a Cb if that is the case.

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2 minutes ago, R_The_Great said:

I guess people are ignoring the fact that trufant may be a June 1st cut.  We need a Cb if that is the case.

We don't save any money if we cut him then and get a $13 mil dead cap charge as well.

2020 is when we save money on that.

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Posted (edited)

20 minutes ago, R_The_Great said:

I guess people are ignoring the fact that trufant may be a June 1st cut.  We need a Cb if that is the case.

That’s next year. We need a CB anyway the way Trufant is playing. 

Edited by droopy1592

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I trust Pauline more than any other source on Falcons draft.  The fact they would consider CB in the 1st is odd.  Must mean they aren’t sold on Oliver at all.  A boundary corner is a need next year once Tru is cut, but not this year IMO

If our biggest need is DT, and the best value at 14 is DT, WTF would they trade back for a CB

When 1 + 1 = 3

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13 minutes ago, Falconsin2012 said:

I trust Pauline more than any other source on Falcons draft.  The fact they would consider CB at 14 is troubling.  Must mean they aren’t sold on Oliver at all.  A boundary corner is a need next year once Tru is cut, but not this year IMO

I read it to mean a CB would only come into play if they traded back into the 1st round. 

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Be skeptical about what comes out in the couple of weeks leading up to the draft. When is the last time we had our first round pick pegged?

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1 hour ago, Falconsin2012 said:

 

I trust Pauline more than any other source on Falcons draft.  The fact they would consider CB in the 1st is odd.  Must mean they aren’t sold on Oliver at all.  A boundary corner is a need next year once Tru is cut, but not this year IMO

If our biggest need is DT, and the best value at 14 is DT, WTF would they trade back for a CB

When 1 + 1 = 3

No Quinn loves Oliver it's Tru they don't feel comfortable with plus they most likely gone cut him next year

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1 hour ago, Falconsin2012 said:

 

I trust Pauline more than any other source on Falcons draft.  The fact they would consider CB in the 1st is odd.  Must mean they aren’t sold on Oliver at all.  A boundary corner is a need next year once Tru is cut, but not this year IMO

If our biggest need is DT, and the best value at 14 is DT, WTF would they trade back for a CB

When 1 + 1 = 3

Not enough tape to not be sold on Oliver . Truu has been stealing money since 2016. The writing is on the wall for him . 

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No 1st Rond Corners- Bunting or Isahia Johnson should be Available in the 3rd.

 If we could trade down to 22-25 and get a 2nd it’s a go. 

#25-D Lawrence

2nd-OT Tytus Howard 

2nd- DE Ferguson

3rd- CB Isahia Johnson

Trade 4th/6th  to move back into the bottom of the 3rd

3rd- FS/SS Darnell Savage

4th- Best DT available

5th- TE Issac Ngata

5th- Best RB available 

7th- Developemental DE

 

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4 minutes ago, Diggable Birds said:

No 1st Rond Corners- Bunting or Isahia Johnson should be Available in the 3rd.

 If we could trade down to 22-25 and get a 2nd it’s a go. 

#25-D Lawrence

2nd-OT Tytus Howard 

2nd- DE Ferguson

3rd- CB Isahia Johnson

Trade 4th/6th  to move back into the bottom of the 3rd

3rd- FS/SS Darnell Savage

4th- Best DT available

5th- TE Issac Ngata

5th- Best RB available 

7th- Developemental DE

 

I want to trade up for Oliver but their is alotta juice here ! I could dig it . 

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