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So overall I think this past year was a success despite the 29-53 record in year 1 for Pierce. The young guys played well for the most part and we were able to get guys like Len to play well in our system. Excited to see where next year takes us. We competed in a lot of games we lost too. As the year went along, we played better which is a very good sign. 

Trae Young averaged 19.1 PPG and 8.1 APG. His 3 ball was only around 33%, but he was up to around 35% after the all star break. That number is only going to get better IMO. Post ASG, he averaged 24.7 and 9.2 APG. He was 2nd in the NBA in assists and 5th in APG. 

John Collins averaged 19.5 PPG and 9.8 RPG. For a sophomore year player? Yeah, we've got us a star on our hands.

Kevin Huerter averaged 10.5 PPG post ASG which is good too. He is only going to get better and get more comfortable.

There were also positives to take away from a lot of over guys: Alex Len, Taurean Prince, Omari Spellman, and even Bembry showed progress (still mad about tonight though lol). We have a nice young core that is only going to get better.

Some key offseason dates:
April 21st: Final day for underclassmen to declare for the NBA draft
May 14th: NBA draft lottery
May 14th-9th: NBA Draft Combine
May 29th: Final day for underclassmen to withdraw from the NBA draft
June 10th: Final day for non-NCAA players to withdraw from the NBA draft
June 20th: NBA draft
July 1st: Free agency begins, but players can't sign yet

Draft picks:
1(5)- ATL pick; 5th slot in lottery
1(7)- DAL pick; T-7th slot in lottery, top 5 protected
2(35)- ATL pick
2(41)- ATL pick
2(42)- ATL pick 

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For the most part, I'd stray away from free agency outside of possibly resigning Dedmon (I'd say go ahead and give him a 1+1 and hopefully have a young C on the team for him to mentor) and a veteran PG for a good contract but I'd love to sign Malcolm Brogdon if it's a non-heartbreaking contract (I'd pay him handsomely but not too handsomely). I believe in Huerter and think he could be Hayward-esque at SG but he'd be a good 6th man if you have to put him there, you can never have too much talent.

Other guys I'd look at (like I said, it's not a whole lot):

Kawhi Leonard (probably unrealistic to get a meeting though unless you get Zion)
Klay Thompson (see above)
Khris Middleton (he's intertwined with Malcolm Brogdon, Bucks will have a decision to make, Middleton or Brogdon. I really, REALLY hope they choose Middleton, but if not, he'd be a nice fit too if the price wasn't awful)

That's about it for major guys (a guy like KD would be unrealistic even if it shouldn't be, if he leaves the Warriors he's going to the Knicks for his "legacy"). Anybody else and you're risking a contract that isn't great for a team that's probably still in transition. Vucevic would make sense in a vacuum but he probably doesn't play good enough defense to fit.

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16 minutes ago, tl;dr said:

So overall I think this past year was a success despite the 29-53 record in year 1 for Pierce. The young guys played well for the most part and we were able to get guys like Len to play well in our system. Excited to see where next year takes us. We competed in a lot of games we lost too. As the year went along, we played better which is a very good sign. 

Trae Young averaged 19.1 PPG and 8.1 APG. His 3 ball was only around 33%, but he was up to around 35% after the all star break. That number is only going to get better IMO. Post ASG, he averaged 24.7 and 9.2 APG. He was 2nd in the NBA in assists and 5th in APG. 

John Collins averaged 19.5 PPG and 9.8 RPG. For a sophomore year player? Yeah, we've got us a star on our hands.

Kevin Huerter averaged 10.5 PPG post ASG which is good too. He is only going to get better and get more comfortable.

There were also positives to take away from a lot of over guys: Alex Len, Taurean Prince, Omari Spellman, and even Bembry showed progress (still mad about tonight though lol). We have a nice young core that is only going to get better.

Some key offseason dates:
April 21st: Final day for underclassmen to declare for the NBA draft
May 14th: NBA draft lottery
May 14th-9th: NBA Draft Combine
May 29th: Final day for underclassmen to withdraw from the NBA draft
June 10th: Final day for non-NCAA players to withdraw from the NBA draft
June 20th: NBA draft
July 1st: Free agency begins, but players can't sign yet

Draft picks:
1(5)- ATL pick; 5th slot in lottery
1(7)- DAL pick; T-7th slot in lottery, top 5 protected
2(40)- ATL pick
2(42)- ATL pick 

Very good season IMO. 

Loyd Pierce looks like a great hire

young guys developed all season long 

veterans were positive influence

brand of basketball is the best I have seen in atlanta

ton of cash 

two lottery picks

a shot a Zion

and Trae Young and John Collins

Schlenk is lookin real smart right about now

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, tl;dr said:

Draft picks:
1(5)- ATL pick; 5th slot in lottery
1(7)- DAL pick; T-7th slot in lottery, top 5 protected
2(40)- ATL pick
2(42)- ATL pick 

We have picks 35, 41, and 42 in the 2nd round.

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6 hours ago, Beef said:

We have picks 35, 41, and 42 in the 2nd round.

Oops. Thanks for clearing that up 

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Gotta be kidding me! First time I did it Dallas got #1 and we got #7. What an absolute disaster that would be <_<

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Much of the focus will be on the draft, and rightfully so, as there are several prospects that could be the missing piece of a potential championship-caliber team. That being said, there's one player already on the team that I believe has earned himself a long-term extension and that's Alex Len. He may not be quite as polished as Embiid or Jokic, but he's been darn productive anyway. He's a prototype big for the way we want to play. Highly effective in the pick and roll and can shoot from distance. Plays hard, works hard on defense, good rebounder. 

For the right price, I'd keep him around for awhile.

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5 minutes ago, No.11 said:

Much of the focus will be on the draft, and rightfully so, as there are several prospects that could be the missing piece of a potential championship-caliber team. That being said, there's one player already on the team that I believe has earned himself a long-term extension and that's Alex Len. He may not be quite as polished as Embiid or Jokic, but he's been darn productive anyway. He's a prototype big for the way we want to play. Highly effective in the pick and roll and can shoot from distance. Plays hard, works hard on defense, good rebounder. 

For the right price, I'd keep him around for awhile.

Len was signed to a 2 year deal so he has another year left.

FYI - 2 year contracts cannot be extended.

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That leaves Fatty Spellman as the lone 2018 pick that'll play. I want to see his body transformed.

 

 

Other possibles: Jaylen Adams, Alex Poythress, Alpha Kaba if healthy and our 2019 picks.

 

Out 3 months from January, so hopefully good to go for SL.

 

 

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Forgot about Alpha Kaba being drafted in 2017.  @jayu70so how long do the Hawks have the rights for this young man?  Have you heard anything about his career while playing in Europe?

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4 minutes ago, blkbigdog35 said:

Forgot about Alpha Kaba being drafted in 2017.  @jayu70so how long do the Hawks have the rights for this young man?  Have you heard anything about his career while playing in Europe?

Hawks has his rights to infinity and beyond unless traded. I think the Hawks still have the rights to something called Cenk Akyol that was drafted in 2005.

He was playing well this season but dislocated his ankle in January.

He was hoping to stay in US this year and join the GLeague team, but Schlenk said not yet.

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5 minutes ago, jayu70 said:

Hawks has his rights to infinity and beyond unless traded. I think the Hawks still have the rights to something called Cenk Akyol that was drafted in 2005.

He was playing well this season but dislocated his ankle in January.

He was hoping to stay in US this year and join the GLeague team, but Schlenk said not yet.

Damm infinity :lol:.  

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New Orleans, Memphis and Dallas participated in a mini-lottery today to determine who gets the 7, 8, and 9 odds. 

Dallas is in the 9th spot, so that pick has a 46.4% chance of being 9th, 24.3% chance of being 10th, or a 26% chance of being top 4. 

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On 4/22/2019 at 6:55 PM, jayu70 said:

 

Nice!

This is incredible. He gets to hang out with and learn from three championship coach’s and the best nba players in the world. I am sure he can create some great relationships with some of the players that may play a role in them

considering us in free agency. 

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