athell 29,516 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Falconsin2012 said: That’s the issue with drafting Holyfield. He is too slow to contribute on ST ‘s...and late rounders have to do that Yup. Bubble players need to contribute on special teams day 1. I don't know, I feel bad for him. Hope he gets a shot somewhere. I'm sure at the very least he is an UDFA and he gets some camp/preseason work. Link to post Share on other sites
athell 29,516 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Knight of God said: You guys really think long speed is all there is to YPC????????!!!????!!!!!!!!!???? No but you can't seriously think a near 4.9 40 during his dang pro day isn't a huge red flag. Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 28,843 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, athell said: Man we don't need anymore projects on this team. We do need a power back tho. I'd take him, Snell, Ozigbo, etc anyone who could help. Link to post Share on other sites
athell 29,516 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Peyton Manning ran a 4.8...ijs Link to post Share on other sites
athell 29,516 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, Yo_Lover said: We do need a power back tho. I'd take him, Snell, Ozigbo, etc anyone who could help. Don't need a power back when your line can get a push... Link to post Share on other sites
hjerry 25,079 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 This is pretty much confirmation for some of us The real laugh comes from whatever acid some we're taking when they argued before all this that he was a Day 2 guy, or that Riley Ridley was round 1 material and so on There's some good talent coming from UGA this year. They were just overhyped Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 28,843 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, athell said: Don't need a power back when your line can get a push... You do man. I don't believe in Free, Ito, or Hill to do it. Link to post Share on other sites
Stryka 1,801 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 52 minutes ago, metatron360 said: Elijah isn't your speed player but he can block and his avg in the NFL will be 5.5 to 6 ypc with a high after contact. Turner the burner wasn't blowing down the field either but watching him was alot of fun Yes he was. In a straight line he was real fast. Forgot how many big runs he was part of? He didnt have lateral quickness. He didnt get Burner name being slow. Lol Link to post Share on other sites
athell 29,516 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, Yo_Lover said: You do man. I don't believe in Free, Ito, or Hill to do it. Shocker Link to post Share on other sites
Gold4425 1,594 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Alabama's LB, Mack Wilson said yesterday, "I'm a football player not a track star." Sometimes too much is put on these times. Remember Duke Riley blew it away. I still think Holyfield could be a good, late round get for us. But I understand there is a strong UGA hate with some so it won't happen. Link to post Share on other sites
athell 29,516 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gold4425 said: Alabama's LB, Mack Wilson said yesterday, "I'm a football player not a track star." Sometimes too much is put on these times. Remember Duke Riley blew it away. I still think Holyfield could be a good, late round get for us. But I understand there is a strong UGA hate with some so it won't happen. He is absolutely correct. Combine warriors often never live up to the hype. It's also true that this is a huge hit to his draft stock and a big red flag. I wouldn't be opposed to a late round flyer, but to hjerry's point, he is no day 2 guy. Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 28,843 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, athell said: Shocker I'm not the one that drafted a midget expecting him to be able to push the pile. He's too small and weak. Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 28,843 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, athell said: He is absolutely correct. Combine warriors often never live up to the hype. It's also true that this is a huge hit to his draft stock and a big red flag. I wouldn't be opposed to a late round flyer, but to hjerry's point, he is no day 2 guy. No one here wants him day 2. I'm talking 6-7th Link to post Share on other sites
athell 29,516 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, Yo_Lover said: I'm not the one that drafted a midget expecting him to be able to push the pile. He's too small and weak. lol man you need to get over it. You sound like a scorned woman now Link to post Share on other sites
MAD597 7,435 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 He will be an UDFA probably for someone like the Lions. Matt Ryan had a very similar combine and pro day 40. You are UGA homers if you want him here, many more capable bigger RB's we could draft that are fast than Matt Ryan. Stop being stupid UGA homers, the only reason he is talked about here is he is from UGA. You cannot make it int he NFL and be a RB when you are running 4.8-4.9 and and be in your early 20's. Imagine how slow he will get as he ages? He has DT speed as a RB his career is DOA. He also has hands fo stone and at 215lbs he is not exactly a bruiser either. He will be lucky to end up as an UDFA Link to post Share on other sites
Peyton 21,045 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Terrell Davis was slow at the 40 but I am not sure Holyfield is Terrell Davis. Link to post Share on other sites
Jesus 23,107 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I didn't watch a lot of this guy but from what I saw he had an issue with avoiding contact, which is fine in college when most guys can't tackle but in the NFL that doesn't work. Link to post Share on other sites
Knight of God 51,092 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, athell said: No but you can't seriously think a near 4.9 40 during his dang pro day isn't a huge red flag. Not when he only needs 1-3 yds to be the goal line or short yardage guy. He has vision, foot work, and power....this is the same board hating on 40s, verts, and BPs man! The goal post moves Link to post Share on other sites
thamill 1,298 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 The 40 time is the best indicator of how good a RB will be. - Al Davis Seriously though. He'll be an UDFA and end up being a steal for someone. Link to post Share on other sites
athell 29,516 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Knight of God said: Not when he only needs 1-3 yds to be the goal line or short yardage guy. He has vision, foot work, and power....this is the same board hating on 40s, verts, and BPs man! The goal post moves Where would you take him? I'm not disagreeing with you either, ftr. I'm just saying...his times are pretty discouraging. And this is TATF man, the goal posts never stop moving lol Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 33,541 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 29 minutes ago, Knight of God said: You guys really think long speed is all there is to YPC????????!!!????!!!!!!!!!???? Still need to outrun your Center. Dude needs to drop some weight to regain some of his burst. Link to post Share on other sites
Francis York Morgan 23,798 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, athell said: He is absolutely correct. Combine warriors often never live up to the hype. It's also true that this is a huge hit to his draft stock and a big red flag. I wouldn't be opposed to a late round flyer, but to hjerry's point, he is no day 2 guy. "Often never live up to the hype" is kinda misleading. Not just for the "often never" thing, but players who do well at the combine are far more likely to be good players at the next level than those who don't, and there are a ton of stats supporting that. You probably know that, but I'm just saying. I'm way bigger supporter of using good combines to confirm good players than to elevate bad players (because they're still bad). But a bad combine, especially historically bad like Holyfield had, is a big red flag. Literally not one RB ran as poorly as he did and had a good career in the past decade. Could be worse looking back before that too. Link to post Share on other sites
Atlantafan21 9,509 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, metatron360 said: Elijah isn't your speed player but he can block and his avg in the NFL will be 5.5 to 6 ypc with a high after contact. Turner the burner wasn't blowing down the field either but watching him was alot of fun Maybe if he has like 7 carries the entire year he can average 5.5 yards. If AP in his prime only had one year over 5.5 YPC, what makes you think someone as unathletic as Holyfield can do it? Link to post Share on other sites
Spts1 6,096 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Elijah might be stinking it up but Haskins is raising his stock at Ohio State pro day. He csn sling it. Effortless deep balls LEADING his receivers... Link to post Share on other sites
MAD597 7,435 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, metatron360 said: Elijah isn't your speed player but he can block and his avg in the NFL will be 5.5 to 6 ypc with a high after contact. Turner the burner wasn't blowing down the field either but watching him was alot of fun Turner had a 4.49 40 yd combine which was really good for his size. Holyfield is smaller and slower and has horrible hands. He has little chance in the NFL and zero chance on our team Link to post Share on other sites
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