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Chiefs Willing to Trade Ford for a 2nd Round Pick?

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Rapoport noted on NFL Network's Good Morning Football that it might only take a second-round pick to pry the 27-year-old linebacker from K.C.

NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported that the Chiefs are open to dealing Ford to a team with a better scheme fit for the right price. The Chiefsare switching from a 3-4 to a 4-3 defense under new defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo. 

The edge rusher's one-year raise is absolutely deserving. After missing most of the 2017 season with a back injury, Ford had a career year in 2018, recording 55 tackles, 13 sacks and a league-high seven forced fumbles. With Kansas City likely to let Justin Houston go via trade or release, Ford is set to take up his mantle as the Chiefs' preeminent pass rusher.

Ford is one of many pass rushers and front-seven studs to receive the tag on Monday; DeMarcus LawrenceJadeveon ClowneyGrady Jarrettand Frank Clark were all tagged, as well. With Ford also off the board, Patriots defensive lineman Trey Flowers is the top remaining pass rusher, according to NFL.com's Top 101 Free Agents list.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001021064/article/chiefs-put-franchise-tag-on-pass-rusher-dee-ford

 

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1 minute ago, Falcanuck said:

What defence do we run again?

Oh ya, a 4-3, the defence KC is switching to.

To be fair we do align our 'LEO' in a wide 9 alignment from either a 2 or 3 point stance. So technically far closer to what a lot of teams do with their 3-4 OLB than a traditional 4-3 DE.

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Why the defensive change now for the Chiefs? Should've tried to look for a better DC that ran the 3-4.

 

Seems very odd timing since they have 2 pass rushers that were really good last season and are very much contenders right now for a SB.

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8 minutes ago, Smiler11 said:

To be fair we do align our 'LEO' in a wide 9 alignment from either a 2 or 3 point stance. So technically far closer to what a lot of teams do with their 3-4 OLB than a traditional 4-3 DE.

Yep. Dude looks like a LEO type in Quinn's defense. If we fire Quinn next year his replacement might want to run a 3-4. I hope so. This is the year Dimi needs to make a significant trade. He's done his best work trading, vs drafting or signing free agents. A TonyG level trade needs to be made. Maybe even a second Levitre or Asante type trade. He's got the draft capital. The trading team would have to cover the dead money. We get established players for what could be wasted draft picks.

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2 hours ago, Smiler11 said:

To be fair we do align our 'LEO' in a wide 9 alignment from either a 2 or 3 point stance. So technically far closer to what a lot of teams do with their 3-4 OLB than a traditional 4-3 DE.

We run a 4-3 under. It's possible for Ford to play LEO in our D, but I wouldn't say it's close to a 3-4.

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2 hours ago, FalconFanSince1970 said:

Yep. Dude looks like a LEO type in Quinn's defense. If we fire Quinn next year his replacement might want to run a 3-4. I hope so. This is the year Dimi needs to make a significant trade. He's done his best work trading, vs drafting or signing free agents. A TonyG level trade needs to be made. Maybe even a second Levitre or Asante type trade. He's got the draft capital. The trading team would have to cover the dead money. We get established players for what could be wasted draft picks.

The Falcons would have to pay him 15+mil. You're already a Beasley hater and you want another speed rusher that will cost a 2nd + 15mil?

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2 hours ago, Dirtybird3 said:

Some one post our recent second round picks, please.. 

2018 - Isaiah Oliver - Looked bad this year; Still to early to tell
2017- Didn't have one
2016 - Deion Jones - Best defensive player we have
2015 - Jalen Collins - No longer in the league
2014 - Rashede Hageman - No longer in the league

Not an overwhelming success. But Deion Jones is elite. 

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1 hour ago, MD-FalconFan13 said:

2018 - Isaiah Oliver - Looked bad this year; Still to early to tell
2017- Didn't have one
2016 - Deion Jones - Best defensive player we have
2015 - Jalen Collins - No longer in the league
2014 - Rashede Hageman - No longer in the league

Not an overwhelming success. But Deion Jones is elite. 

Don’t think Oliver looked bad, looked like a rookie taking lumps. The Begals TD has many jaded on him.

my key takeaway is round 2 is too high to take a gamble on character red flags.

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2 hours ago, MD-FalconFan13 said:

2018 - Isaiah Oliver - Looked bad this year; Still to early to tell
2017- Didn't have one
2016 - Deion Jones - Best defensive player we have
2015 - Jalen Collins - No longer in the league
2014 - Rashede Hageman - No longer in the league

Not an overwhelming success. But Deion Jones is elite. 

Oliver didn't look bad at all. He flashed and got beat some because he's a ROOKIE. That's what rookies do.

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A 2nd round pick for a young edge rusher coming off a 55/13/7 season? Where do we get in line. The **** with the scheme. We can find a way to fit him.

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43 minutes ago, AtlantaFanatic said:

Well we already know Beasley makes an excellent linebacker. lol

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DQ went back to DC because he needs to be HANDS ON and take VB out of his comfort zone of LB and show him how to stay at DE; love him or hate him!!!:lol::lol:

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On 3/5/2019 at 4:30 PM, since68andcounting said:

A 2nd round pick for a young edge rusher coming off a 55/13/7 season? Where do we get in line. The **** with the scheme. We can find a way to fit him.

Not that simple. Ford’s gonna ask for somewhere around 5 years/$85M.

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On 3/5/2019 at 10:55 AM, Smiler11 said:

To be fair we do align our 'LEO' in a wide 9 alignment from either a 2 or 3 point stance. So technically far closer to what a lot of teams do with their 3-4 OLB than a traditional 4-3 DE.

But without a 280 lb DE engaging the tackle

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On 3/5/2019 at 10:51 AM, Falcanuck said:

What defence do we run again?

Oh ya, a 4-3, the defence KC is switching to.

Don't forget who Quinn hired for game time management. Just a thought 

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On 3/5/2019 at 5:02 PM, FalconFanSince1969 said:

If we trade for him we might as well switch to a 3-4. Ford, Campbell, Deion and Beasley as the LB's...

 

What about Takk?

 

I think he could thrive under any defensive scheme as long as his head is right.

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Season Team   Tackles Interceptions Fumbles
  G GS Comb Total Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FF
2018 Atlanta Falcons 16 9 20 16 4 5.0 0 3 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 0
 
2017 Atlanta Falcons 14 8 29 23 6 5.0 -- 2 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 1
 
2016 Atlanta Falcons 16 12 39 32 7 15.5 0 2 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 6
 
2015 Atlanta Falcons 16 16 26 20 6 4.0 -- 3 1 0 0.0 0 0 2
 
TOTAL 114 91 23 29.5 0 10 1 0 -- 0 0 9

 

Season Team   Tackles Interceptions Fumbles
  G GS Comb Total Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FF
2018 Kansas City Chiefs 16 16 55 42 13 13.0 -- 0 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 7
 
2017 Kansas City Chiefs 6 6 13 11 2 2.0 -- 1 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 1
 
2016 Kansas City Chiefs 15 14 38 25 13 10.0 -- 2 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 1
 
2015 Kansas City Chiefs 14 5 23 21 2 4.0 -- 2 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 0
 
2014 Kansas City Chiefs 16 0 8 4 4 1.5 -- 1 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 0
 
TOTAL 137 103 34 30.5 0 6 0 0 -- 0 0 9
                             
 
                               

That's Dee Fords first 5 years vs Vic Beasleys first 4 years. Why would we trade for him ?

 

                               
 
                               

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On 3/5/2019 at 11:10 AM, FalconFanSince1970 said:

Yep. Dude looks like a LEO type in Quinn's defense. If we fire Quinn next year his replacement might want to run a 3-4. I hope so. This is the year Dimi needs to make a significant trade. He's done his best work trading, vs drafting or signing free agents. A TonyG level trade needs to be made. Maybe even a second Levitre or Asante type trade. He's got the draft capital. The trading team would have to cover the dead money. We get established players for what could be wasted draft picks.

Question - is Dimi still that smart or did he get lucky?

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On 3/5/2019 at 10:10 AM, FalconFanSince1970 said:

Yep. Dude looks like a LEO type in Quinn's defense. If we fire Quinn next year his replacement might want to run a 3-4. I hope so. This is the year Dimi needs to make a significant trade. He's done his best work trading, vs drafting or signing free agents. A TonyG level trade needs to be made. Maybe even a second Levitre or Asante type trade. He's got the draft capital. The trading team would have to cover the dead money. We get established players for what could be wasted draft picks.

This is the worst year to make a trade. There's tons of talent in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounds. If anything we should be trading our first round and move down.

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