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Robert Kraft potentially being charged in connection with Prostitution Ring.

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3 hours ago, Falconsfan567 said:

Ah yes, it shouldn't be illegal for women to be forced to have sex against their will? Ok then!!

He's saying that if it were legal for women to sell their bodies, sex rings like this would have a much harder time making a profit.

If women had a safe, legal and regulated space to sell their bodies if they wanted to, nobody would go to a massage parlor for a happy ending..they'd just go to brothel. I happen to agree.

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3 hours ago, Falconsfan567 said:

Ah yes, it shouldn't be illegal for women to be forced to have sex against their will? Ok then!!

C'mon man...where in my post did I say its ok for women to be forced into prostitution?   

I am talking about free will.  The ability to do as you wish if it does no arm to others. 

Some women -DO- enter into prostitution willingly, you know.....

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45 minutes ago, ChickenBiscuit said:

He's saying that if it were legal for women to sell their bodies, sex rings like this would have a much harder time making a profit.

If women had a safe, legal and regulated space to sell their bodies if they wanted to, nobody would go to a massage parlor for a happy ending..they'd just go to brothel. I happen to agree.

Good points.  The gist of my post is, women should have the right to decide for themselves.  That's all.

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On ‎2‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 7:13 AM, nolove4thecrook said:

I am not surprised at the fact he got caught im surprised he can still get it up. Viagra must really work I thought the plumbing gives out in your 50 60s

 

On ‎2‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 8:23 AM, tactician said:

Usually it does give out. But Yes ED meds make a huge difference. 

Lol y'all don't know what you're talking about. 

I'm almost 56 and can hammer nails with mine if I want.  And I've never even seen a pecker pill up close.

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16 hours ago, 4dabirds said:

No, I'm certainly not saying that you endorse human trafficking. I simply took issue with your comment on the police using resources to bust a prostitution ring. From what I've read, the massage parlor may have ties to human trafficking. Your statement; "I sure am glad the police have the resources to chase down and bust this prostitution ring.   We all know how dangerous they are to our safety and national security, right..."; I felt this minalmalized what may actually be going on here. 

First off I appreciate your response clarifying what you meant, its all good...  The bolded part, I certainly do not condone anything victimizing women in general or young girls in particular.    Reading that Kraft was involved…. It lead me to believe this operation the authorities went after is more 'upscale' than most of the ones the police go after?

Take for example that place in Texas, I think they call it the Chicken Farm?  Wasn't there a documentary about that place? 

Anyway... if there -is- any forced servitude or underage girls involved and Kraft was going there anyway, well... he deserves what he gets, which should be -very- harsh.

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8 minutes ago, octoslash said:

 

Lol y'all don't know what you're talking about. 

I'm almost 56 and can hammer nails with mine if I want.  And I've never even seen a pecker pill up close.

LMAO y'all are crazy man

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On 2/23/2019 at 9:08 AM, MAD597 said:

Everyone that even has a passing acquaintance with Trump seems to be a criminal, not very surprising

It's because of Trump that these arrests are happening. Since he took office, record number of pedophile, human trafficking, and prostitution rings have been broken up and prosecuted. Its called draining the swamp. You may not like the guy, but give credit where it is due..

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3 hours ago, ChickenBiscuit said:

He's saying that if it were legal for women to sell their bodies, sex rings like this would have a much harder time making a profit.

If women had a safe, legal and regulated space to sell their bodies if they wanted to, nobody would go to a massage parlor for a happy ending..they'd just go to brothel. I happen to agree.

They do in Nevada and a few countries. Probably see that kind of thing expand one day.

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2 hours ago, egoprime II said:

C'mon man...where in my post did I say its ok for women to be forced into prostitution?   

I am talking about free will.  The ability to do as you wish if it does no arm to others. 

Some women -DO- enter into prostitution willingly, you know.....

Yes. Some do it willingly. But most are forced to do it against their will. That's probably why it's illegal in the majority of places. Then you've got some women who do it willingly but only because it's the only way they've got to feed their kids and if they had another way to feed their kids they wouldn't do it.

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1 hour ago, OilFuturesTrader19 said:

It's because of Trump that these arrests are happening. Since he took office, record number of pedophile, human trafficking, and prostitution rings have been broken up and prosecuted. Its called draining the swamp. You may not like the guy, but give credit where it is due..

Oh god you are funny, your brain is plugged right into fox news

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3 minutes ago, MAD597 said:

Oh god you are funny, your brain is plugged right into fox news

The statistics are public knowledge. To refute them is to refute reality. 

A border wall would cut human trafficking down significantly yet everybody says that's immoral... **** hypocrites. 

 

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3 hours ago, OilFuturesTrader19 said:

It's because of Trump that these arrests are happening. Since he took office, record number of pedophile, human trafficking, and prostitution rings have been broken up and prosecuted. Its called draining the swamp. You may not like the guy, but give credit where it is due..

 

Nah, you know what?

This doesn't even deserve a reasoned response.

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6 hours ago, octoslash said:

 

Lol y'all don't know what you're talking about. 

I'm almost 56 and can hammer nails with mine if I want.  And I've never even seen a pecker pill up close.

Thanks for the mental image grandpa

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4 hours ago, OilFuturesTrader19 said:

It's because of Trump that these arrests are happening. Since he took office, record number of pedophile, human trafficking, and prostitution rings have been broken up and prosecuted. Its called draining the swamp. You may not like the guy, but give credit where it is due..

The president who brags about grabbing women by their genitals, cheats on every woman he's been with and pays pornstars for sex is responsible for his good friend Robert Kraft being caught in a sex sting?

The same man whose entire inner circle is being brought up on charges for being career criminals?

Didn't Trump aka "individual one" just go on the news defending Kraft by saying "he said he didnt do it" sounding a lot like how he defends his friend Putin?

I swear there is a level of cognitive dissonance going on now in America that will be studied by psychologists for generations to come....

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4 hours ago, Falconsfan567 said:

Yes. Some do it willingly. But most are forced to do it against their will. That's probably why it's illegal in the majority of places. Then you've got some women who do it willingly but only because it's the only way they've got to feed their kids and if they had another way to feed their kids they wouldn't do it.

Nahh, I disagree with this. You ever heard of an escort? They're often independent sex workers. Some of them make an a killing. My ex's best friend was a sex worker. The girl was beautiful and came from a privileged family, she just knew it was easier to charge desperate men $400/hr than to work an actual job. And honestly, I can't blame her. ****'s rough out here my man.

This is like the trope that strippers only strip to pay for school or whatever. Not true, strippers make a ton of money (and it also requires a decent amount of skill to be one). SOME may do it out of necessity, but others do it because they see the opportunity. Same goes for sex work.

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10 hours ago, ChickenBiscuit said:

Nahh, I disagree with this. You ever heard of an escort? They're often independent sex workers. Some of them make an a killing. My ex's best friend was a sex worker. The girl was beautiful and came from a privileged family, she just knew it was easier to charge desperate men $400/hr than to work an actual job. And honestly, I can't blame her. ****'s rough out here my man.

This is like the trope that strippers only strip to pay for school or whatever. Not true, strippers make a ton of money (and it also requires a decent amount of skill to be one). SOME may do it out of necessity, but others do it because they see the opportunity. Same goes for sex work.

I didn't say that there aren't some that do it just to do it. But what I said isn't wrong either.

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On 2/23/2019 at 10:16 AM, egoprime II said:

I sure am glad the police have the resources to chase down and bust this prostitution ring.   We all know how dangerous they are to our safety and national security, right...

A woman can let her body be used for medical research, has the right to have an abortion... but its illegal for women to rent their bodies out for sex?   People can drink and smoke themselves into oblivion but can't do the same thing with drugs?

No wonder people around the world can't figure us out.  -I- can't figure this out.  Less laws, please.

I agree with you...but only if it’s classic prostitution and the women keep what they’ve sold their body for.

 If it’s sex trafficking and the women are employee’s making cents on the dollar, nah, I have serious *ucking issues

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2 hours ago, Falconsin2012 said:

I agree with you...but only if it’s classic prostitution and the women keep what they’ve sold their body for.

 If it’s sex trafficking and the women are employee’s making cents on the dollar, nah, I have serious *ucking issues

Then we agree with each other.  :)

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16 hours ago, ChickenBiscuit said:

Nahh, I disagree with this. You ever heard of an escort? They're often independent sex workers. Some of them make an a killing. My ex's best friend was a sex worker. The girl was beautiful and came from a privileged family, she just knew it was easier to charge desperate men $400/hr than to work an actual job. And honestly, I can't blame her. ****'s rough out here my man.

This is like the trope that strippers only strip to pay for school or whatever. Not true, strippers make a ton of money (and it also requires a decent amount of skill to be one). SOME may do it out of necessity, but others do it because they see the opportunity. Same goes for sex work.

 

On 2/24/2019 at 5:41 PM, egoprime II said:

C'mon man...where in my post did I say its ok for women to be forced into prostitution?   

I am talking about free will.  The ability to do as you wish if it does no arm to others. 

Some women -DO- enter into prostitution willingly, you know.....

Rare exceptions. For vast majority of these girls, what you two are claiming is Not true at all.

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26 minutes ago, Vandy said:

 

Rare exceptions. For vast majority of these girls, what you two are claiming is Not true at all.

Are there statistics for this? How do we measure the amount of sex trafficked prostitutes vs self-employed sex workers? 

And if it is true that most of them are forced, wouldn't the solution to that issue be legalizing/regulating it ala New Zealand or Amsterdam?

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26 minutes ago, ChickenBiscuit said:

Are there statistics for this? How do we measure the amount of sex trafficked prostitutes vs self-employed sex workers? 

And if it is true that most of them are forced, wouldn't the solution to that issue be legalizing/regulating it ala New Zealand or Amsterdam?

How would legalizing prostitution stop women from being forced to do it? How does that make any sense? That is like saying that if we legalize hardcore drugs then people will stop using.

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57 minutes ago, Vandy said:

 

Rare exceptions. For vast majority of these girls, what you two are claiming is Not true at all.

Exactly!! There are some that do it, but most do it against their will.

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