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3 minutes ago, ATLSlobberKnockers said:

Hey you were dead set against drafting OL last year.

Everyone has their breaking point. 40 hits on your pro bowl QB and franchise’s best player is probably @Vandy  point.

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1 minute ago, ATLSlobberKnockers said:

Hey you were dead set against drafting OL last year.

I sure was, and I’m still fine rolling with jake, Mack, and Wes. Obvious the rest of our OL got old real fast this past season. Levitre looks like he’s done and nobody saw Schraeder falling off a cliff. 

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2 hours ago, atljbo said:

You are drafting them then ?

draft and FA, grab some guys like Cajuste, or Lindstrom and go get a stud RT like Daryl Williams. If Jonah Williams falls for God's sakes don't be shy to pull the trigger. OL has been neglected for quite some time and garbage bin 5th rounders won't fix the problem.  

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2 minutes ago, O sizzle said:

draft and FA, grab some guys like Cajuste, or Lindstrom and go get a stud RT like Daryl Williams. If Jonah Williams falls for God's sakes don't be shy to pull the trigger. OL has been neglected for quite some time and garbage bin 5th rounders won't fix the problem.  

10+ mil a year for Daryl Williams ?

 

The more i look at this draft .. The more i feel like we should take advantage of the talent this draft has in the top 3 rounds.

 

The more i look at FA (O-Line)  ... The more i see either players i think will get big money or players that will be over paid...

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6 minutes ago, atljbo said:

10+ mil a year for Daryl Williams ?

 

The more i look at this draft .. The more i feel like we should take advantage of the talent this draft has in the top 3 rounds.

 

The more i look at FA (O-Line)  ... The more i see either players i think will get big money or players that will be over paid...

Probably will make around 9-10M's totally worth it considering we paid sharter $7.5M and levitre/cialis around $8M.

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Fusco can be a factor in a good run game; if he comes back for either OG spot.

Chester was really good in the run game and made RS go at RT; while being a liability in pass blocking himself. Not a problem when Levitre was a solid pass blocker and Mack was still better than most C; although his strength is run blocking as well.

The Falcons indeed will likely attempt to have 2 new starters and let Fusco and probably Wes compete for the remaining OG spot.

1 new OG(big upgrade), 1 new RT(not hoping RS rebounds unless valid reasons to believe); at minimum.

May or may not bring back Ty and/or keep RS on a substantial restructure.

At the same time? It’s more likely Alford and Schraeder are potential cut candidates than being asked to restructure players after a bad year. Makes more sense to cut them if it’s about improving.

Who knows what we will do, but it’s true the premise of having a veteran/value player at one spot is probably a need with Mack & Jake making bank + a presumed FA OL move.

If that happens, we are probably still drafting OL with one of our first 2 picks and maybe another mid-rounder; especially if a guy we like fell far enough. Just don’t see a way around drafting OL high without FA and the draft picks before 14 playing out a specific way.

Absolutely must get our front 7 and OL right. I liked what Fusco brought in the snapshot we saw, given he was the new guy. I didn’t see 2017 Wes finding his way as a new guy to the league at RG.

So, that’s not a bad starter to have if he earned it a 2nd offseason in a row. He helped push Wes to improve. Injuries happen tho and we need depth. Is Wes it? For price he may be, but another reason we get at minimum a 2nd draft pick to develop along the interior OL again. We must groom these kids early and properly. 1 year on the bench wasn’t enough for Wes. With a great offseason he might be our LG moving forward on the flip side.

Its a shame Levitre went out with a fizzle. He was so good for us in that window we had him at his best.

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4 minutes ago, O sizzle said:

Probably will make around 9.5-10M's totally worth it considering we paid sharter $7.5M and levitre/cialis around $8M.

Ricky Wagner got 9.5... James and Williams are getting atleast 10.. in FA i wouldnt be surprise if it hits 11 mil...

im interested to see what we do.... Having to pay Julio.... Having to pay Grady about 16 mil a year..  Then we have Deebo and Hooper and others

im interested to see what we do

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1 minute ago, atljbo said:

Ricky Wagner got 9.5... James and Williams are getting atleast 10.. in FA i wouldnt be surprise if it hits 11 mil...

im interested to see what we do.... Having to pay Julio.... Having to pay Grady about 16 mil a year..  Then we have Deebo and Hooper and others

im interested to see what we do

Not a problem, we are 26M under the cap before roster cuts and restructuring alford and beas. We will probably be around $45M when that is done and $15M will go to grady, We can more than afford Daryl and we need to make a statement and get Daryl if we want to not look like ridiculous cheapskate pretenders like we did last season. Mack is old and his contract will come off the books in 2 seasons, and I can't imagine Sanu will be here longer than 2 seasons as well.

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1 hour ago, g-dawg said:

Yeah when I said draft two and sign one, my thought would be the free agent would start and the higher of the two drafted would start while the second drafted would more likely take a year.   I don’t want a second one drafted late though.  Take before 5th round or not at all.

Ok so I said the same thing in an earlier post. We’re on the same page. 

Now the question would be who from last year’s OL are you keeping as that one spot aside from Jake and Mack of course. 

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1 hour ago, g-dawg said:

We need three new OL - at least two of them from the draft.   

To me, the perfect draft will likely mean dedicating either 1st & 4th rounders or 2nd & 3rd rounders.  I know you cannot make it that simple but we need heavy emphasis on OLine for sure.  We need to get better and younger.

We went through this last year, no one listened. Riddly was a good pick, but we needed an OG. You know something, they never pick who I would pick. Same story every year.

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56 minutes ago, caver50 said:

We went through this last year, no one listened. Riddly was a good pick, but we needed an OG. You know something, they never pick who I would pick. Same story every year.

I wanted Isaiah Wynn last year but Patriots took him before our pick.  Of course Wynn got hurt but he’s a stud.

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2 hours ago, g-dawg said:

I wanted Isaiah Wynn last year but Patriots took him before our pick.  Of course Wynn got hurt but he’s a stud.

Most of us wanted Wynn or Taven Bryan. Imo this draft is just as deep on oL talent. Should trade up for Jonah if he doesn't fall.

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7 hours ago, atljbo said:

10+ mil a year for Daryl Williams ?

 

The more i look at this draft .. The more i feel like we should take advantage of the talent this draft has in the top 3 rounds.

 

The more i look at FA (O-Line)  ... The more i see either players i think will get big money or players that will be over paid...

It’s tricky, yes? I agree with your take, yet folks are naive in thinking rookie offensive linemen are just gonna come in and things will immediately get better. 

Nobody knows for sure what happened with Schraeder, we just know he stunk. Why Has he regressed in play that much? Was he hurt? ? Did he get lazy after his big contract? Did he get ‘old’? 

Same for OG....Wes was actually our best OG last year. But he’s still learning and average at best. Do we pair him with a rookie such as Lindstrom (who I like a lot) as starters? 

It’s tricky. 

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3 hours ago, Cole World said:

I’m sorry but I don’t see the Falcons paying any offensive lineman outside of the organization 10M+ plus, especially for someone who has been hurt back to back seasons (Daryl Williams). 

Agreed

Spending big money on offensive linemen that other NFL teams let go to free agency is a terrible use of cap dollars and will almost always not payoff.   

Alwx Mack was the exception - not the rule.

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I don’t see them going OT in FA. The talent doesn’t match the price this year. None of those guys are worth 10+ a year, especially since we can’t afford to be careless with cap space. I could see Ty or RS competing with a round 1 or 2 guy through camps. When Schreader lost his job partway through the season, it didn’t bode well for him to return at his price.

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12 hours ago, ATLFalcons11 said:

Next, I understand that one of these 3 will be starting on the OL next year --- Sambrailo, Schraeder, or Fusco

 

11 hours ago, AtlantaFanatic said:

Fusco is the better of those 3. If your LT, LG, C, and RT are good, your RG can be below average and you'll still have a really good OLine

I know he's the whipping boy around here, but Wes is probably the best of the 4.

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6 minutes ago, Lornoth said:

 

I know he's the whipping boy around here, but Wes is probably the best of the 4.

Wes has advantage of: (1) his age  (2) should be now coming into his best physical strength years  (3) serviceable at either G or at C  (4) payroll hit

I believe Falcons NEED to draft for two OL starters in 2019 draft: RT and G.  That pretty much requires two picks in the top 3 rounds and perhaps trading into the mid/late 2nd Rd. to get a high quality pick with strong potential to start.  We may have to accept a season where a G is Fusco and let Wes and a rookie G battle for the spot but we have to fix RT.  Schraeder may get back in form but given the 2018 season and the fact he never even came close to doing so...  it ain't promising. Regardless, whether its him or Ty S., we need a rookie RT to groom NOW. We also NEED at least one G on roster NOW, and likely another G or C/G from THIS draft. Our OL MUST be replenished with talent.

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12 hours ago, g-dawg said:

yeah, let's sign ANOTHER below average offensive guard and overpay - it's the Falcon way.

Starting guard average in the NFL is 5.7m for 2018 season. We paid Fusco 3m. Overpay isnt even close to accurate.

I get people are angry over the Oline but come on. The Falcoholic just tweeted how the stats over the 2018 would have made Fusco a serviceable starter AND AT LESS than league average. Maybe if RT wasn't such garbage the RG could have played better. We simply don't know.

Since people want to get in an uproar, why is no one calling out the 2.9 we paid Garland who couldn't beat out Zane who is what 33? 2.9 for a guy who is super nice but a dog turd player.

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I think he performed better than the other three guys the Falcons ran out there at Guard.  So who to hang onto and who to let go of is kind of tricky.

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18 minutes ago, runshoot said:

Starting guard average in the NFL is 5.7m for 2018 season. We paid Fusco 3m. Overpay isnt even close to accurate.

I get people are angry over the Oline but come on. The Falcoholic just tweeted how the stats over the 2018 would have made Fusco a serviceable starter AND AT LESS than league average. Maybe if RT wasn't such garbage the RG could have played better. We simply don't know.

Since people want to get in an uproar, why is no one calling out the 2.9 we paid Garland who couldn't beat out Zane who is what 33? 2.9 for a guy who is super nice but a dog turd player.

You are missing the point.   For a decade the Falcons have been putting bandaids on the offensive line - at some point, you have to address it in a meaningful way.

In  last 10years the Falcons have invested one 1st round pick(Matthews), one 2nd round pick(Konz) and two 3rd round picks (Mike Johnson/Lamar Holmes).   A grand total of ONE pick before pick#55.

Ponder on that.

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13 hours ago, g-dawg said:

yeah, let's sign ANOTHER below average offensive guard and overpay - it's the Falcon way.

Exactly like I've been saying this bargain bin ####### gots to stop.im tired of seeing brees Brady dak have these world beating o lines and we are stuck with crap.im sorry get creative with the cap and get it done.no reason why we can't get two good line man in free agency when we were trying to get mack and Ben Jones in 2016 

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