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Whats the source of this Saints vs Falcons feud?

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I mean, every other post is about the Saints...:lol:  The earliest game I remember against them was the first Big Ben game in 1978.  I knew the cities were rivalries because of their proximity and both being in the South.  Miami didn't count I guess...  Anyway, whats the source of this?   Here are some links to the Saints still reeling from Big Ben Right:

https://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2017/7/18/15920422/new-orleans-saints-tragedies-big-ben-strikes-twice-1978-falcons-archie-manning-steve-bartkowski

https://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2014/12/a_look_back_at_big_ben_and_lit.html

 

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Notable games in the series

  • The first time that the Saints made an appearance in the city of New Orleans was on September 9, 1967, in a pre-season game against Atlanta; the Saints won, 27–14. The two teams continued to play yearly in the pre-season until they became divisional opponents. A notable exception was on August 11, 1984, when the Saints took a 31–21 victory in New Orleans.
  • The rivalry first truly began to heat up when the two teams became divisional opponents in 1970, allowing them to play twice per season. Despite being located east of the Mississippi River, both relatively new expansion teams were placed in the National Football Conference's Western Division that year – a tough division that would often leave the two teams battling it out with each other just to stay out of last place.
  • Atlanta's 62-7 victory at Tulane Stadium in 1973 remains the most lopsided loss in Saints history. (Coincidentally, the Saints were involved in the only other 62-7 final in an NFL regular season game, crushing the Indianapolis Colts at the Mercedes-Benz Superdome on October 23, 2011.[2])
  • A pair of consecutive last-minute wins by Atlanta in 1978 with playoff implications helped to intensify the rivalry even further. With the Falcons down 17-13 in a late-season match-up at the Superdome and only 0:19 left on the clock, Falcons quarterback Steve Bartkowski aired a Hail Mary pass (called in the playbook "Big Ben Right") down to the end zone; the ball was tipped by Falcons receiver Wallace Francis into the hands of his teammate Alfred Jackson, giving the Falcons a 20-17 victory. The teams met again two weeks later in Atlanta. Once again, the Falcons trailed 17-13, with only :53 on the clock and on their own 28-yard line; Bartkowski led the team down the field and scored with only five seconds left, stunning the Saints for the second time in 3 weeks and propelling the Falcons to their very first wild card playoff berth: the Falcons finished 9-7, while the Saints finished 7-9; the two last-second victories had decided the final 1978 playoffs slot.
  • After a third straight wild win by Atlanta (this time in overtime) to open the 1979 season,[3] the Saints had had enough and blew out the Falcons in the second of the two 1979 games, 37–6.[4]
  • The only postseason meeting to date in the Falcons–Saints rivalry was played in the wild card playoff round on December 28, 1991, at the Superdome. The Saints entered the 1991 playoffs as the NFC West champions while the Falcons were a wild card team. Atlanta won the game on the road, 27-20, as Falcons quarterback Chris Miller threw the game-winning 61-yard touchdown pass to wide receiver Michael Haynes with 2:41 left in the fourth quarter. To add insult to injury, Haynes is a New Orleans native.
  • In the midst of New Orleans' troubled 2005 season in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, they suffered a loss at San Antonio to the Falcons on October 16. The Saints raced to a 10-3 lead in the second quarter before a fumble was returned by DeAngelo Hall of the Falcons for a 66-yard touchdown and a tie game. On the final play of the second quarter, the Falcons blocked a field goal try and Demorrio Williams ran back a 59-yard touchdown. An exchange of six touchdowns ensued and Devery Henderson caught a 15-yard game-tying score, leaving the game 31-31 in the final minute of regulation. A penalty on the Saints helped the Falcons set up Todd Peterson's 36-yard field goal on the final play, ending a 34-31 Falcons win. Saints coach Jim Haslett was so angry over the late penalty that he repeatedly ripped the "chicken****" calls by referee Bill Carollo and his crew.[citation needed]
  • The Falcons were the opponent in the Saints' first game in the Superdome after Hurricane Katrina, held on September 25, 2006. The Saints won the nationally televised match 23–3; the game was the highest-rated program in the history of ESPN and the second-highest-rated cable program of all time. Early in the first quarter, Saints safety Steve Gleason blocked a punt by Falcons kicker Michael Koenen and Curtis Deloatch recovered the ball in the Falcons' end zone for a Saints touchdown. It was the first score in the Saints' first game in New Orleans in nearly 21 months, during which time Hurricane Katrina had devastated the city and the team. The Saints dominated the game and went on to have the most successful season in their history up to that time. In July 2012, "Rebirth", a statue depicting Gleason blocking the punt, was erected outside the Superdome; a news report commented that the blocked punt "etched Steve Gleason into Saints lore and became symbolic of New Orleans' resilience in the face of disaster".[5]
  • The Falcons hosted the Saints on November 26, 2006, at the Georgia Dome. Michael Vick rushed for 166 yards but threw for only 84 yards while Drew Brees of the Saints threw for 349 yards (a week after a 510-yard performance against the Cincinnati Bengals), including a 48-yard heave to Terrance Copper caught in heavy traffic in the Falcons end zone for a Saints touchdown. The Saints routed the Falcons 31–13, and after the game, Vick flashed an obscene gesture to booing Falcons fans.
  • The Saints were on a quest for an undefeated season in 2009 when, on November 2, they hosted the Falcons on Monday Night Football. Atlanta led 14-7 after one quarter. New Orleans then erupted with 21 second quarter points and held off a late Atlanta comeback effort when a Darren Sharper intercepted a Matt Ryan pass at the Saints 5, ending a 35-27 Saints win. The win raised New Orleans to a 13-0 record; the Saints then dropped their last 3 regular season games before sweeping through the playoffs on their way to winning the Super Bowl.
  • In the 2010 season, both games had important implications for the playoff race. The Falcons won a week 3 match-up at the Superdome 27-24 in overtime (after Saints kicker Garrett Hartley made a last-second field goal to tie the game in regulation, but then missed another kick that would have won it in overtime). The win gave Atlanta an advantage in the standings that the Falcons retained all season. In the Week 16 rematch, the teams met for the fifth time in six seasons on Monday Night Football, with the NFC South title still on the line; in a typically close game the Saints held on for a 17-14 win, clinching a playoff berth (the Falcons won the following week to earn the top seed in the NFC; both teams then were then upset in their opening playoff games, New Orleans losing to the underdog Seattle Seahawks 41-36 in the wild-card round, while Atlanta was routed by the eventual Super Bowl XLV champion Green Bay Packers in the divisional round 48-21).
  • In the 2011 season, both teams met again for a Monday Night Football match-up. Like the previous season, playoff implications were at stake for both teams, however, in a near-inverse of the 2010 meeting, New Orleans, entered Week 16 with an 11-3 record with a playoff berth already clinched, were in better position to win the NFC South division title, and needed a win in one of their final two games or an Atlanta loss in one of their final two games to clinch the division title, while Atlanta, entering Week 16 with a 9-5 record, needed to win out as well as for New Orleans to lose against Carolina in Week 17 to repeat as NFC South champions. A major historical aspect of this game was Saint Drew Brees' pursuit of Dan Marino's single season record for passing yards, 5084, set in 1984. Entering the game with 4780 yards, Brees needed only 305 in his final two games to obtain the record. Atlanta received the opening kickoff and quickly jumped out to a 3-0 lead but the Saints immediately responded with an 84-yard touchdown drive sparked by Brees' 38-yard completion to Lance Moore on the drive's first play. Brees would end the first quarter with 66 yards. By halftime, Brees was within 75 yards of the record with 230 yards in the first half, thanks in large part to the 164 yards he notched in the second quarter, which lifted the Saints to a 21-10 lead. Despite only having 45 yards in the third quarter, Brees managed to help the Saints extend their lead to 31-13 and he entered the fourth quarter 30 yards shy of Marino's record. The fourth quarter was somewhat atypical of how the Saints had played during the first three quarters in that they punted for the first time in the game and were held to a three-and-out for the third straight possession dating back to the third quarter when they had to settle for a field goal after failing to get a first down following Darren Sproles' 92-yard kickoff return which set them up with excellent field position at the Atlanta 14-yard line. Continuing the breaking of trends was the Saints' defense, which came into the game having forced the fewest turnovers of any defense in the league. That improved when linebacker Scott Shanle stripped the football from Falcons' wide receiver Julio Jones at the Falcons' 35-yard line and Saints' free safety Malcolm Jenkins grabbed the ball bouncing off the turf in stride and ran 30 yards down the sideline for a touchdown, extending the lead to 38-16. With zero completions or yards through the Saints' first two fourth-quarter possessions, it appeared uncertain if Brees would be able to get the record in front of a national audience in prime time but after the Saints' defense succeeded in stopping the Falcons on fourth down for the second straight possession and having taken over at the Falcons' 32-yard line with Brees needing just 30 for the record, the stage was set for history. On the ensuing drive, Brees completed a 12-yard pass to Marques Colston and an 11-yarder to Devery Henderson, coming to within 7 yards of the record. After an incomplete pass on first and goal from the Falcons' 9-yard line, Brees connected with running back Darren Sproles at the 1-yard line by the left hash mark and he carried it into the end zone, completing the quest for the record with Brees at 5087 yards through 15 games and capping off the scoring for the game with the Saints winning 45–16 and clinching the NFC South division title, their third since Sean Payton became head coach in 2006 and fifth in franchise history. Brees ended the night completing 23 of his 39 passing attempts for 307 yards, four touchdowns and two interceptions; it was also his 12th game of the season with at least 300 yards passing, an NFL record.
  • In 2012, the Saints struggled through a down year after incurring heavy league penalties from their bounty scandal, but the Saints still managed to hand the Falcons their first loss of the season, 31–27 at the Superdome in week 10. Three weeks later, airport workers in Atlanta egged the Saints' charter bus when the Saints arrived in Atlanta for their game against the Falcons. Drew Brees threw 5 interceptions and his record of consecutive games with a touchdown pass was snapped as the Falcons controlled the rematch 23-13.[6](The Falcons went on to earn the top seed in the NFC for the second time in three years.)
  • In 2013, the teams met in a highly promoted[citation needed] opening-week match-up. The Saints held off a last-second Atlanta drive to win 23–17, then went on to win their first five games while the Falcons, hampered by injuries, unexpectedly[citation needed] suffered through a loss-filled campaign. In the rematch, a Thursday night prime time game, the Saints again held on to win another narrow victory, 17–13, marked by Brees moving past Warren Moon into fifth place on the all-time career passing list.
  • The January 1, 2017 match-up was the final regular season NFL game played in the Georgia Dome. In the Falcons' 38–32 victory over the Saints, Atlanta clinched the second seed in the playoffs. In the Divisional Round, the Falcons defeated the Seattle Seahawks while the Green Bay Packers defeated the top-seeded Dallas Cowboys. As Atlanta was the higher surviving seed, the 2016 NFC Championship Game between the Falcons and Packers was the final overall NFL game played in the Georgia Dome, where the Falcons defeated the Packers to secure their second all-time Super Bowl appearance.
  • On December 7, 2017 the New Orleans Saints played their first game against the Atlanta Falcons at the new Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta. With the Falcons leading 20-17, Saints quarterback Drew Brees was intercepted by linebacker (and New Orleans native) Deion Jones in the end zone with less than two minutes remaining in regulation. New Orleans still had the possibility of gaining another possession but that ended when Saints Head Coach Sean Peyton was flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct for running onto the field and arguing with a game official. The penalty gave Atlanta a first down allowing the Falcons to keep possession and win the game 20-17.
  • On September 23, 2018 New Orleans beat Atlanta at Mercedes-Benz Stadium in overtime, 43-37, after nine lead changes throughout the game. Matt Ryan completed 26 of 35 attempts for 374 yards and a career high 5 touchdowns. Drew Brees completed 39 of 49 pass attempts for 396 yards and 3 touchdowns and also rushed for 2 touchdowns. Brees would break Brett Favre's NFL record for most career completions with 6,326.

 

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You don't even need all that...

It's because their fans are uppity arrogant ******** that think they're better than everyone.... and love to run their mouth.

If their fans were humble... like Panther fans (for the most part).... then it would be a civilized rivalry.

But they're not so **** em!

And the best part is.... we're not the only ones that feel that way.

When I made the first YouTube thread after the Saints lost the first videos I found were from Eagles and Vikings fans.

The Saints fans arrogance and the behavior of their team has not endeared them to other fan bases... not at all.... now everyone is beginning to see their true color.... ******* brown.

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Back in the 70s-80s when the Rams and 49ers dominated the division it was always a battle to see who wouldn't be bottom dwellers. "Well we stink but at least we're not as bad as the Saints". I've probably heard that 100 times. There were also some really bad blowouts early on that went both directions.

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3 minutes ago, Sun Tzu 7 said:

You don't even need all that...

It's because their fans are uppity arrogant ******** that think they're better than everyone.... and love to run their mouth.

If their fans were humble... like Panther fans (for the most part).... then it would be a civilized rivalry.

But they're not so **** em!

And the best part is.... we're not the only ones that feel that way.

When I made the first YouTube thread after the Saints lost the first videos I found were from Eagles and Vikings fans.

The Saints fans arrogance and the behavior of their team has not endeared them to other fan bases... not at all.... now everyone is beginning to see their true color.... ******* brown.

Their fans were really never very arrogant until they won that Super Bowl. The thing you could always say about Saints fans was "win or lose they're gonna have a good time." They were gonna party. That attitude changed after the Lombardi. They seemed almost entitled and became very poor losers.

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3 minutes ago, since68andcounting said:

Their fans were really never very arrogant until they won that Super Bowl. The thing you could always say about Saints fans was "win or lose they're gonna have a good time." They were gonna party. That attitude changed after the Lombardi. They seemed almost entitled and became very poor losers.

This.  I pulled for the Saints in the Super Bowl.  The only thanks I ever got from their fans has been entitled smug taunting and pretending their ring trumps anything our franchise ever does even though that ring is tainted as all get out.

Their fans are the most insufferable lot I've ever run across, and I wish every misery upon them.  With rare exception (my former secretary, a friend from my old church, etc.).  

The ones who came here after Katrina and run around town preening are the worst too.  Like, if your city is so great why are you still in ours?

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Just now, since68andcounting said:

Their fans were really never very arrogant until they won that Super Bowl. The thing you could always say about Saints fans was "win or lose they're gonna have a good time." They were gonna party. That attitude changed after the Lombardi. They seemed almost entitled and became very poor losers.

The Saints Falcon games good natured ribbing of each other during the games.  

Then it began to slowly change when Payton took over and it went over the top after 2009... like you said entitled but the arrogance of the fans went through the roof.  And there was also the way the team was behaving.... posing for pictures on logos.... literal criminal behavior (Darren Sharper)...

Yeah it's just very easy to hate the team and their fans.

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21 minutes ago, Sun Tzu 7 said:

You don't even need all that...

It's because their fans are uppity arrogant ******** that think they're better than everyone.... and love to run their mouth.

If their fans were humble... like Panther fans (for the most part).... then it would be a civilized rivalry.

But they're not so **** em!

And the best part is.... we're not the only ones that feel that way.

When I made the first YouTube thread after the Saints lost the first videos I found were from Eagles and Vikings fans.

The Saints fans arrogance and the behavior of their team has not endeared them to other fan bases... not at all.... now everyone is beginning to see their true color.... ******* brown.

Noooooo, you have that somewhat backwards.   These "new" Aints fans are terrible, arrogant *** babies, but when they had Brooks at QB (and prior to), their fans were fairly humble and sane (remember when they sucked *** as a team and their humble fans would rent a fleet of raggedy *** buses to come to the dome)?  Those were REAL Saints fans!  Panthers fans, the absolute worst and not humble!  They just mask it better now than they did a few years ago!

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2 minutes ago, JDaveG said:

This.  I pulled for the Saints in the Super Bowl.  The only thanks I ever got from their fans has been entitled smug taunting and pretending their ring trumps anything our franchise ever does even though that ring is tainted as all get out.

Their fans are the most insufferable lot I've ever run across, and I wish every misery upon them.  With rare exception (my former secretary, a friend from my old church, etc.).  

The ones who came here after Katrina and run around town preening are the worst too.  Like, if your city is so great why are you still in ours?

Swampers, hate them and can't legally shoot them.

/Halfpurp

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I used to hate Tampa more, but have grown to hate the saints more.   

Does anyone remember when some guy at the airport egged their bus after the saints flew into town and were otw to their hotel?   

I also think there was an instance of falcon players getting sick stomach from food at NO hotel.   

Basically 2 country cousins who were both dirt poor (not good teams) fighting for a shread of dignity in the form of bragging rights to be able to say “ya we both had a bad season, but you were worse.”

Now that we are both reasonably good, the stakes are higher, but the rivalry is the same nasty blood feud.  Saints laughed and cheered when we lost SB and falcons have had the laugh the last two years with the saints being denied a trip to SB on last play of game.    

It’s petty, it’s immature, it’s irrational....but it is what it is.  We used to fight to not be the cellar dwellers, now we fight to be kings of the dirty south.  

I love it.  

 

 

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It was Brees who irritated me. Always the narrative that he was a team guy who didn't want to leave NO, but he squeezed every penny out of all his deals (which he had the right to) Also he would always keep throwing to inflate his numbers in games that were already decided. 

I loved it when his TD streak ended against us. With the halftime clock approaching he could have spiked it to get a fg, but he couldn't resists throwing it and time ran out.

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Also, don't have any particular issue with the Panthers, just that Newton is a tool. Only disliked the Bucs when Gruden was his loudmouth self, 

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41 minutes ago, Sun Tzu 7 said:

You don't even need all that...

It's because their fans are uppity arrogant ******** that think they're better than everyone.... and love to run their mouth.

If their fans were humble... like Panther fans (for the most part).... then it would be a civilized rivalry.

But they're not so **** em!

And the best part is.... we're not the only ones that feel that way.

When I made the first YouTube thread after the Saints lost the first videos I found were from Eagles and Vikings fans.

The Saints fans arrogance and the behavior of their team has not endeared them to other fan bases... not at all.... now everyone is beginning to see their true color.... ******* brown.

:lol::lol:

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Not only the above, but a number of players have played for both teams, notably Bobby Hebert, Ironhead Heywood RIP, Joe Horn, Ken Reeves and Hall of Famer Morten Anderson. 

  Saints fans traveled well and often even when the teams were lousy, but when they both were better there would usually be particularly large and boisterous crowds. much to the dismay of the home team fans. One of those was a blowout loss in 1987 to the Saints where the Birds  were embarrassed on the field and in the stands. By that time already I hated the Rams Niners and Cowboys. But exceedingly obnoxious Taint fans this game cemented my distain for them.

Also notably to old time Falcons fans in the big Ben right game had 2 hail mary tipped passes for touchdowns, the first one though at the end of half bounced off Falcons receiver's Billy Ryckman's knee as he lay on the ground into Jackson's hand for a TD. It was over ruled as incomplete even though replay showed it never touched the ground.

PS.

Obvious wikipage originated by a Saints fan, they just touched on the 1979 opener in New Orleans. The Saints stung by the 2 last second losses in 78, were ready for the rematch. Both teams slugged it out with the Saints behind Archie Manning, Chuck Muncie and Wes Chandler offensively while the Falcons had Bartkowski throwing and the unknown rookie William Andrews churning a then Falcons record 169 yards on the ground. Tied at the end of regulation Saints got the ball first but just moved short of their on 40. In comes 1st round pick Russell Erxleben the duel punter and field goal kicker to punt. The ensuing snap soars over Erxleben's headiwith him turning around sprinting to catch up, he does at about the 7 or 8 yard line and manages to get a weak 3 yard two handed pass right into the waiting hands of Falcon running back James Mayberry who trots into the end zone for the 40-34 Falcon victory, 

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It was rather tame until 2006.  Katrina, Payton, and the fact both have been contenders for most of the past decade cranked it up 10x.

 They’ve gotten used to being handed things and have come to expect that every Falcons game will be like the Katrina Bowl. Imagine if the ‘91 playoff game happened today.   

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While there was always major beef between us, them winning it all in '09 took things to a new level. Not only do they incessantly brag about it at every turn to us but act entitled to other folks, as if they've won three Lombardis. That had a huge hand in making them one of the most hated fanbases in the entire league.

Notice yesterday that no other fanbase came to the defense of their cause. While everyone said that it was a bad call, very few outside of the mainstream media (who LOVE New Orleans) piped up. In fact, I know of many Eagle, Steeler, Viking, Bronco, Jet, Raven, and Cowboy fans who were as delirious in laughter as we were when they went down in defeat...

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Saints Player: “I Pissed On The Falcons Logo”

Saints Player: "I Pissed On The Falcons Logo"
Brad Cohen 10:02 am, December 30th, 2010
 

Whoa. The Atlanta Falcons shouldn't need any more motivation to beat the New Orleans Saints if the two meet again in the playoffs. A chance to get to the Super Bowl should be enough to get Atlanta ready to play, but just in case, here's a little extra bulletin-board material: after the Saints defense was done dancing and taking pictures on the Falcons logo Monday night, defensive tackle Remi Ayodele told CBS reporter Pete Prisco, "I pissed on the Falcons logo."

Not that Ayodele was being literal, but the statement alone could be enough to add fuel to Atlanta's fire. In this video, New Orleans Times Picayune reporter Jeff Duncan echos what several Saints players have said, that there was nothing disrespectful about what went on Monday night. Duncan explains that, for years, the defense, especially the linebackers, have taken photos on opposing teams' logos after big road wins. If that's the case, Ayodele should learn to keep his mouth shut, especially around reporters who want to generate readership.

Assuming the Falcons can beat the lowly Carolina Panthers this weekend at home—where they are 6-1—they will lock up the No. 1 seed and home-field advantage throughout the playoffs, while giving their division rivals the No. 5 seed and ensuring that not one playoff game is played at the Super Dome. If they get the job done, the two teams could meet again in Atlanta to earn a trip to the Super Bowl. Regardless of who wins, plenty of photos will be taken on the same logo, but this time to present the NFC championship trophy.

 

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Saints Player: “I Pissed On The Falcons Logo”

Saints Player: "I Pissed On The Falcons Logo"
Brad Cohen 10:02 am, December 30th, 2010
 

Whoa. The Atlanta Falcons shouldn't need any more motivation to beat the New Orleans Saints if the two meet again in the playoffs. A chance to get to the Super Bowl should be enough to get Atlanta ready to play, but just in case, here's a little extra bulletin-board material: after the Saints defense was done dancing and taking pictures on the Falcons logo Monday night, defensive tackle Remi Ayodele told CBS reporter Pete Prisco, "I pissed on the Falcons logo."

Not that Ayodele was being literal, but the statement alone could be enough to add fuel to Atlanta's fire. In this video, New Orleans Times Picayune reporter Jeff Duncan echos what several Saints players have said, that there was nothing disrespectful about what went on Monday night. Duncan explains that, for years, the defense, especially the linebackers, have taken photos on opposing teams' logos after big road wins. If that's the case, Ayodele should learn to keep his mouth shut, especially around reporters who want to generate readership.

Assuming the Falcons can beat the lowly Carolina Panthers this weekend at home—where they are 6-1—they will lock up the No. 1 seed and home-field advantage throughout the playoffs, while giving their division rivals the No. 5 seed and ensuring that not one playoff game is played at the Super Dome. If they get the job done, the two teams could meet again in Atlanta to earn a trip to the Super Bowl. Regardless of who wins, plenty of photos will be taken on the same logo, but this time to present the NFC championship trophy.

 

I used to hate this stuff, because back then we'd roll over like punks the next time that team came around.  Then this happened:

 

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2 minutes ago, JDaveG said:

I used to hate this stuff, because back then we'd roll over like punks the next time that team came around.  Then this happened:

 

Definitely one of my Quinn favorite moments, you could tell he held that **** in for a long time, almost forgot about that. 2019 Falcons are gonna need more of that

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The source goes way back, but Payton’s stupid *** sure is the gasoline that keeps it burning hot!

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