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2019 Atlanta Braves Regular Season Thread

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On June 13th, the Braves took over sole possession of first place and hopefully never looked back.

The explanation for it happened is pretty simple. The kids that we'd hoped would develop into MLB players have the following OPS stats:

Riley .959

Acuna .856

Swanson .809

Albies .792

Freeman is currently .989, too. That's five home-grown talents who are getting the job done.

(Yes, someone else drafted Swanson.)

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Truliant Federal Credit Union is suing BB&T/SunTrust over the Truist Bank name. Truliant says it infringes on their brand. Theres hope we're saved from Truist Stadium.

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Bowman reporting that Mike Foltynewicz will be optioned to AAA Gwinnett today.

 

 

I never envisioned  anything like this to occur while the Braves simultaneously are in first place in the division.

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The following Atlanta Braves starters have failed so mightily this year that they've been sent back to the minors or placed on the DL to hide them:

Sean Newcomb

Kyle Wright (current ERA: 7.07)

Bryse Wilson (current ERA 8.31)

Kevin Gausman (current ERA: 6.21)

Mike Foltynewicz (current ERA: 6.37)

Our projected closers, Winkler (current ERA: 4.98) and Minter (current ERA: 7.88) have failed completely.

 

We are 5 1/2 games ahead of our second place opponents.

Come on, fess up. Which one of you made a deal with the devil? And why didn't you include pitching in it?

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6 hours ago, jidady said:

The following Atlanta Braves starters have failed so mightily this year that they've been sent back to the minors or placed on the DL to hide them:

Sean Newcomb

Kyle Wright (current ERA: 7.07)

Bryse Wilson (current ERA 8.31)

Kevin Gausman (current ERA: 6.21)

Mike Foltynewicz (current ERA: 6.37)

Our projected closers, Winkler (current ERA: 4.98) and Minter (current ERA: 7.88) have failed completely.

 

We are 5 1/2 games ahead of our second place opponents.

Come on, fess up. Which one of you made a deal with the devil? And why didn't you include pitching in it?

Not really fair to include Wright and Wilson in that group when Wilson only has 1 start and Wright 3.

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On 6/23/2019 at 4:00 AM, K26dp said:

Bowman reporting that Mike Foltynewicz will be optioned to AAA Gwinnett today.

 

 

I never envisioned  anything like this to occur while the Braves simultaneously are in first place in the division.

And gaining more distance by the day it seems

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On 6/23/2019 at 10:16 AM, jidady said:

The following Atlanta Braves starters have failed so mightily this year that they've been sent back to the minors or placed on the DL to hide them:

Sean Newcomb

Kyle Wright (current ERA: 7.07)

Bryse Wilson (current ERA 8.31)

Kevin Gausman (current ERA: 6.21)

Mike Foltynewicz (current ERA: 6.37)

Our projected closers, Winkler (current ERA: 4.98) and Minter (current ERA: 7.88) have failed completely.

 

We are 5 1/2 games ahead of our second place opponents.

Come on, fess up. Which one of you made a deal with the devil? And why didn't you include pitching in it?

It speaks to the pitching struggles around baseball.

It aint just braves for sure

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This seems like a good time to thank Frank Wren for everything. Law's published his list of the top 25 under-25 players in baseball. Here are Atlanta's:

2. Ronald Acuña Jr. (21): Atlanta supposedly wouldn't part with Acuna last year in a trade for Christian Yelich, and even though Yelich has turned into a power-hitting superstar, GM Alex Anthopoulos has to feel good about the decision. Acuña, the No. 1 prospect going into 2018, has already produced 6.7 fWAR in 190 career games, is gradually taking over center field (as he should) in Atlanta, and has become more disciplined at the plate in just his second year in the majors.  (Cody Bellinger is #1.)

15. Ozzie Albies (22): The talk around Albies has centered on the overly team-friendly contract he signed, but we should be talking more about how much he has improved at the plate, working the count more, swinging less at pitches in the zone he can't drive, making more contact when he does expand the zone. And he's still only 22.

19. Mike Soroka (21): If healthy, Soroka is the best under-24 pitcher in the game (which takes Buehler and Giolito out of the running). He's got a filthy two-seamer to get ground balls, and the life on that pitch makes his slider even tougher on right-handers. He just can't seem to stay healthy; he has missed two stretches in the past two years because of shoulder soreness and is day-to-day right now because of forearm tightness.

 

 

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1 hour ago, jidady said:

This seems like a good time to thank Frank Wren for everything. Law's published his list of the top 25 under-25 players in baseball. Here are Atlanta's:

2. Ronald Acuña Jr. (21): Atlanta supposedly wouldn't part with Acuna last year in a trade for Christian Yelich, and even though Yelich has turned into a power-hitting superstar, GM Alex Anthopoulos has to feel good about the decision. Acuña, the No. 1 prospect going into 2018, has already produced 6.7 fWAR in 190 career games, is gradually taking over center field (as he should) in Atlanta, and has become more disciplined at the plate in just his second year in the majors.  (Cody Bellinger is #1.)

15. Ozzie Albies (22): The talk around Albies has centered on the overly team-friendly contract he signed, but we should be talking more about how much he has improved at the plate, working the count more, swinging less at pitches in the zone he can't drive, making more contact when he does expand the zone. And he's still only 22.

19. Mike Soroka (21): If healthy, Soroka is the best under-24 pitcher in the game (which takes Buehler and Giolito out of the running). He's got a filthy two-seamer to get ground balls, and the life on that pitch makes his slider even tougher on right-handers. He just can't seem to stay healthy; he has missed two stretches in the past two years because of shoulder soreness and is day-to-day right now because of forearm tightness.

 

 

Acuna and Albies are the only good thing Wren did his time with the Braves. They just happened to be two absolutely amazing things.

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24 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said:

Acuna and Albies are the only good thing Wren did his time with the Braves.

 

Wren drafted Kimbrel (20.1 WAR), Minor (15.6 WAR), Wood (12.4 WAR), Andrelton Simmons (35.8 WAR), and El Oso Blanco (8.3 WAR) plus LaStella, who is finally doing what a few of us always hoped/expected with a 1.7 WAR this year.

Wren's drafts get a bad rap. In terms of WAR, he was one of the best drafting GMs during his tenure, with 90 WAR from those guys. Here's an article about WAR in the draft that you might enjoy:

https://www.mlb.com/news/5-mlb-teams-with-most-1st-round-draft-success-c235346730

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10 minutes ago, jidady said:

Wren drafted Kimbrel (20.1 WAR), Minor (15.6 WAR), Wood (12.4 WAR), Andrelton Simmons (35.8 WAR), and El Oso Blanco (8.3 WAR) plus LaStella, who is finally doing what a few of us always hoped/expected with a 1.7 WAR this year.

Wren's drafts get a bad rap. In terms of WAR, he was one of the best drafting GMs during his tenure, with 90 WAR from those guys. Here's an article about WAR in the draft that you might enjoy:

https://www.mlb.com/news/5-mlb-teams-with-most-1st-round-draft-success-c235346730

His drafts get a bad rap and rightfully so. Yes he hit on a few guys. But the majority of his picks were completely useless, especially early round picks and that was one of the reasons the Braves farm system became so barren that the teardown and rebuild was necessarily. I looked it up one time and I'm trying to go off memory, but of the guys he drafted (7 or 8 years worth of drafts) only around 20 guys even played a single MLB game, and 3 or 4 of those guys did it for other teams not named the Braves. Then there was maybe one or two like Anthony Rendon that he originally drafted but couldn't get signed. So I guess we can give him credit for realizing the talent there. All those numbers aren't exact so don't quote me on it, just trying to go off memory of what I looked up.

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1 minute ago, Falconsfan567 said:

His drafts get a bad rap and rightfully so.

 

As I just showed, his drafts are in the upper tier of the majors. That link is obviously an evaluation of only first round picks, but those are the ones most likely to hit.  An overall WAR of 300 for a team over a 20-year period is good, which is 15 WAR per year. He was at 90 after 5 years, which is 16 WAR per year.

You mention that our minor league system was barren, and that's correct. His picks were extremely unusual in that they were feast or famine. The guys he got right made it to the majors quickly and have stuck for years. The guys he got wrong were almost immediately obvious failures. It's a weird dichotomy, but the results have spoken for themselves over the years.

When Wren was right, he was very right, and we're seeing the fruit of it with Acuna and Albies right now.

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2 minutes ago, jidady said:

As I just showed, his drafts are in the upper tier of the majors. That link is obviously an evaluation of only first round picks, but those are the ones most likely to hit.  An overall WAR of 300 for a team over a 20-year period is good, which is 15 WAR per year. He was at 90 after 5 years, which is 16 WAR per year.

You mention that our minor league system was barren, and that's correct. His picks were extremely unusual in that they were feast or famine. The guys he got right made it to the majors quickly and have stuck for years. The guys he got wrong were almost immediately obvious failures. It's a weird dichotomy, but the results have spoken for themselves over the years.

When Wren was right, he was very right, and we're seeing the fruit of it with Acuna and Albies right now.

Oh yes, when he nailed a pick he nailed it!! The amount of 1st and 2nd round pick success the Braves have benefited from in the last 20 years has been incredible!!

Wren's drafts were just so weird. It was all or nothing.

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6 hours ago, jidady said:

As I just showed, his drafts are in the upper tier of the majors. That link is obviously an evaluation of only first round picks, but those are the ones most likely to hit.  An overall WAR of 300 for a team over a 20-year period is good, which is 15 WAR per year. He was at 90 after 5 years, which is 16 WAR per year.

You mention that our minor league system was barren, and that's correct. His picks were extremely unusual in that they were feast or famine. The guys he got right made it to the majors quickly and have stuck for years. The guys he got wrong were almost immediately obvious failures. It's a weird dichotomy, but the results have spoken for themselves over the years.

When Wren was right, he was very right, and we're seeing the fruit of it with Acuna and Albies right now.

Wren's draft successes primarily came in his first ones, before he ran off most of the scouting department left behind by Roy Clark before he joined Stan Kasten in Washington. His drafts with his hand-picked scouting director, Bruce Manno, were primarily duds. 

Most of his later international successes were the result of his hiring of Johnny Almarez as first head of Latin American scouting then as international scouting director, but those later successes came after a long fallow period of providing international talent to the majors. 

You know I think Wren mostly got a bad rap, but the Hart/Coppolella regime did bring in a tremendous amount of talent. The four Brian Bridges drafts are going to blow the last four Bruce Manno drafts out of the water. 

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7 minutes ago, K26dp said:

 The four Brian Bridges drafts are going to blow the last four Bruce Manno drafts out of the water. 

 

I really, really, reeeeeaaaaaaally want you to be right about this.

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