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4 Remaining Playoff Teams Have 1 Thing In Common

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Offense.  We need a DT, but let’s keep building our offensive unit.  The top 4 scoring offenses are the last remaining teams.  Guess offense wins.  You got this Koetter!!!!

1 Kansas City 35.1.             
2 LA Rams 32.8          
3 New Orleans 30.8          
4 New England 28.1
 
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I understand where you’re going with this but at some point we’re going to need defense to make a stop so that a high powered offense has the opportunity to score and win, or put a team away (with the clock managed properly).

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1 minute ago, KCFalcon22 said:

I understand where you’re going with this but at some point we’re going to need defense to make a stop so that a high powered offense has the opportunity to score and win, or put a team away (with the clock managed properly).

An OG & RT is all the offense requires

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If Im not mistaken KC and NO have top 5 sack numbers.  Rams Im not sure but I think they are top 10-15 due to having Donald get 20 sacks this year on his own.  They go hand and hand as its usually offensive leads that lead to more sacks, its also sacks and turnovers that get the ball back to your offense so they can score.  What you see is top offenses along with complimentary defenses.  Pats not big sack numbers but they are tied with Rams for #3 in INTs.  They also have a bevy of guys who can get to the QB led by T. Flowers. Then you look at the OL.  The final four teams are all ranked in the top 7 of Sacks given up.  That's allows your defense to rest, offense to stay ahead of the sticks and indirectly leads to more points and potentially more sacks due to game situation.

 

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6 minutes ago, Falconsin2012 said:

An OG & RT is all the offense requires

I agree with that.  Maybe with losing Teco we will need a big back for short yardage situations.

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5 minutes ago, Falconsin2012 said:

An OG & RT is all the offense requires

Though this is technically correct, the issue is an issue of cultural investment.  Our front office doesn't invest enough high round draft picks in the OL.  That needs to change.  Even if we get a OG and RT to bolster the lines, our depth is still going to be garbage.  We need to consistently invest in the OL in case people go down, or in case people don't pan out over time.  Schrader dropped off of a cliff this season, and we don't have anyone behind him that's worth a darn.  We have had plenty of opportunity to grab an OT, but the last time we spent a high draft pick on an OL was Matthews.  The teams that have consistently successful OL's use high draft picks on OL every other year.  We need to start doing that.

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It seems to change yearly. 

The last 2 years it's been defense or rather the team with the better defensive team that's won. This year offenses have won the day.

However all the remaining teams have balance. 

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Which is why Sarkosuchus needed to be let go, 19 points football wasn't going to cut it. DQ was smart enough to realize that our offense carried us to our SB berth. We need to hit the trenches hard more than anything else and fix the right side of the OL. Draft a DT in the first round and go guar / tackle in the second and sign some really good FA tackles and guards.

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8 minutes ago, MD-FalconFan13 said:

It seems to change yearly. 

The last 2 years it's been defense that's been the better defensive team that's won. This year offenses have won the day.

However all the remaining teams have balance. 

Great offense can get you in the playoff as can great defense.

There is however no single secret sauce that wins you a championship.

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I agree with @Stryka and the thought they all needed complimentary defense at minimum to enable their O.

For example, Saints D has to step up and keep the Eagles from increasing their 14-0 lead. Saints O could then play ball control on a couple key drives to wear out the Eagles D and give their own D some rest.

Eagles got a fumble recovery late and immediately fumble it back 2 plays later.

Thats the difference. High end offense being able to usually capitalize and a D able to make some plays. Eagles O reminding me of ours last playoffs to an extent.

Its a shame our OL/run game fell so low. We might’ve made noise in the playoffs but our D has been so bad this year.

Build up both. Offense is way closer to where it needs to be. D needs Quinn and righting of the entire ship.

Example: Falcons O was playing a shootout vs NO and because of a blitz pickup on 3rd down we couldn’t convert. Game goes to OT and Saints offense wins  game on the coin flip.

Then, in the rematch in NO Saints D/Falcons O creating/giving 3 turnovers inside the RZ. A couple on the offensive player being sloppy or risky. Those point swings prevented us from having a shot due to our D. Could’ve easily put up 40 on NO down there. So, it’s really more about matchups that anything else. We match up with more defenses better than the Eagles. We should due to our weapons. Problem is we got sloppy as a result of trying to do too much without a D and lacking a run game.

Complimentary play.

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12 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said:

It's like nobody has a memory beyond one year.... The teams and formulas change every single year because there is no magic formula. 

2017 Top Offenses - In Order

Eagles

NE

Rams

NO

Jacksonville

Pitt

 

2016 Top Offense:

Atlanta

New Orleans

New England

Green Bay

Dallas

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1 hour ago, Falconsin2012 said:

Offense.  We need a DT, but let’s keep building our offensive unit.  The top 4 scoring offenses are the last remaining teams.  Guess offense wins.  You got this Koetter!!!!

1 Kansas City 35.1.             
2 LA Rams 32.8          
3 New Orleans 30.8          
4 New England 28.1
 

They all also have better defense than we do

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1 hour ago, Falcanuck said:

The last 4 remaining teams have the 4 most creative and unique play-callers in the NFL. They adapt and actively scheme their players to success. Coaching is why they are where they are. 

Yeah pretty much. It's a little bit more complicated but if you've gotta pick one thing, it's coaching. 

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1 hour ago, Falconsin2012 said:

Offense.  We need a DT, but let’s keep building our offensive unit.  The top 4 scoring offenses are the last remaining teams.  Guess offense wins.  You got this Koetter!!!!

1 Kansas City 35.1.             
2 LA Rams 32.8          
3 New Orleans 30.8          
4 New England 28.1
 

Interesting that the two lowest scoring feel much more likely to advance. The Rams and Chiefs have a very "high gloss, low substance" feel to me. They are both about to face equally talented, but much more physical (across all 22) teams. 

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7 minutes ago, MAD597 said:

They all also have better defense than we do

Meh, marginally. KC's defense is pretty much just as bad. The Pats and Rams are average, more or less. The Saints were 11th in DVOA so they're pretty good. 

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It's an offensive driven league and is leaning heavily in that direction to continue. You can try and build a dominant defense all you want, if you can put up ~30 routinely, it won't matter. I'm not saying abandon trying to play defense, but the NFL is making it to promote dominating offenses and "enough defense". Fix the OL and make Matt a more lethal QB and that bodes a lot better for this team long term than pouring a crap ton into the defense. That's just where the NFL is these days. 

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You need both.  And notably, all four teams have good defenses.

Honestly, I think the Rams are well situated to beat the Saints.  I'd hope the Chiefs are as well (I like their defense), but the Patriots are ranked higher in PPG and their offense is really, really solid.  I hope for 2 opposite game plans:

1)  KC/NE -- KC needs to score early and often and put New England behind the 8-ball needing to score to win.

2)  LA/NO -- LA needs to run the ball down their throats and keep the offense on the sidelines, making them more one-dimensional.  They also need to let those big DTs eat -- Brees hates having pressure up the middle.

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4 minutes ago, vel said:

It's an offensive driven league and is leaning heavily in that direction to continue. You can try and build a dominant defense all you want, if you can put up ~30 routinely, it won't matter. I'm not saying abandon trying to play defense, but the NFL is making it to promote dominating offenses and "enough defense". Fix the OL and make Matt a more lethal QB and that bodes a lot better for this team long term than pouring a crap ton into the defense. That's just where the NFL is these days. 

And that’s exactly where we were in 2016; just our moves/investments at OG haven’t been replaced and then RT has fallen well below the contract extension.

Free got his extension and injuries mounted ending last year and this season. Look at how easy it is for Brees with an OL giving him time and Kamara being such a high caliber outlet option as a receiver due to not having to block because OL is good.

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