theProf Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 PFF final 2018 season grades and rankings in bold below, compared to grades/rankings as of the Bye Week in parentheses: Offense: Julio Jones 90.9 #3WR (89.7 #3WR as of Bye Week) Matt Ryan 84.3 #11QB (81.9 #10QB) Jake Matthews 79.1 #9OT (76.8 #13OT) Alex Mack 77.3 #3C (78.1 #3C) Mohamed Sanu 72.0 #40WR (69.2 #43WR) Ito Smith 69.5 #38RB (63.5 #39RB) Calvin Ridley 68.8 #53WR (72.5 #35WR) Ben Garland 68.7 #17G (76.8 Unranked, not enough snaps) Austin Hooper 68.5 #24TE (64.0 #28TE) Tevin Coleman 65.9 #47RB (51.7 #59RB) Wes Schweitzer 63.7 #28G (51.3 #66G) Ryan Schraeder 63.6 #54OT (61.7 #47OT) Logan Paulsen 62.9 #40TE (59.7 #41TE) Branden Fusco 60.2 #45G (60.2 #42G) Brian Hill 70.1 Unranked, not enough snaps Ty Sambrailo 67.0 Unranked, not enough snaps Ricky Ortiz 62.5 Unranked, not enough snaps Zane Beadles 57.7 Unranked, not enough snaps Defense: Grady Jarrett 91.0 #5DT (86.8 #10DT as of Bye Week) Demontae Kazee 77.9 #17S (77.9 #13S) Deion Jones 75.8 #12LB Desmond Trufant 71.4 #35CB (59.3 #81CB) Jack Crawford 71.3 #57DT (67.1 #63DT) Deadrin Senat 71.1 #59DT (73.5 #30DT) Sharod Neasman 67.8 #47S (60.6 Unranked) Brooks Reed 66.5 #60DE (64.5 #61DE) Jordan Richards 65.2 #62S (55.1 #77S) Foye Oluokun 64.6 #44LB (57.0 #58LB) Tak McKinley 62.2 #74DE (57.8 #84DE) Brian Poole 61.7 #83CB (57.7 #89CB) Bruce Irvin 59.0 #88DE De'Vondre Campbell 57.5 #65LB (61.0 #46LB) Robert Alford 56.6 #109CB (49.9 #103CB) Terrell McClain 56.2 #109DT (54.7 #98DT) Duke Riley 44.2 #85LB (43.6 #77 LB) Vic Beasley 42.2 #108DE (42.3 #101 DE) Rico Allen 77.5 Unranked, not enough snaps Steven Means 74.9 Unranked, not enough snaps Isaiah Oliver 70.0 Unranked, not enough snaps (58.2 Unranked as of Bye Week) Derrick Shelby 63.7 Unranked, not enough snaps Bruce Carter 55.5 Unranked, not enough snaps Kemal Ishmael 46.8 Unranked, not enough snaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownfan Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Hmmm, Reed is the highest ranked DE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I’d love to hear what 10 QBs were better than Ryan this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilleniumFalcon Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Beasley with a lower grade than Riley and the lowest grade on the team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just now, MilleniumFalcon said: Beasley with a lower grade than Riley and the lowest grade on the team... Dang. Who would've guessed that? /purp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Again man I'm not trying to wear a cape for Vic but bruh.. The dude wasn't that bad.... I have Pff also and I kept my eyes on him even at the end of the year during a 5 game stretch where he had 4 sacks and like 7 QB hits or something and returned a fumble for TD andddd a tip that turned into a pick six. Dude grade didn't go up ... lol Again I'm not wearing a cape here... If dude I'd staying here.. He is taking a HUGE paycut.... I just don't think he was that bad lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTCrunkler Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 #3 wr by this measure should = first team pro bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theProf Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 6 hours ago, Hometownfan said: Hmmm, Reed is the highest ranked DE. Yep, DE is the Falcons lowest ranked position by PFF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownfan Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 So what you're saying is that on any other team Reed would be a good rotational player, but on this team, The Falcons, Reed is the best we've got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 8 hours ago, PriMeTiiMe said: I’d love to hear what 10 QBs were better than Ryan this year Brees, Mahomes, Luck, Rivers, Brady, Rodgers, Wilson, Goff, Mayfield and Fitzmagic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⚡Slumerican⚡ Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Great post, but wtf.. It's a eye opener to see the lack of talent we've acquired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, ⚡Slumerican⚡ said: Great post, but wtf.. It's a eye opener to see the lack of talent we've acquired Two years ago almost the entire team was 70+. A lot of same faces and play has either fallen off, play calling isn’t doing them any favors, or those next to them that covered up some major weakness got hurt and they were exposed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantafan21 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 hours ago, rings639 said: Brees, Mahomes, Luck, Rivers, Brady, Rodgers, Wilson, Goff, Mayfield and Fitzmagic. Is that their actual rankings? That’s hilarious. Fitzpatrick? Lmfao. Brady sucked this year too at least in Brady standards. In raw #s, Matt is probably around the 4th Best this season. Mahommes, Brees, Luck, and Rivers are the only 4 I’d consider putting over him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theProf Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 Whoops, I forgot to include Deion Jones and his grade/ranking of 75.8 #12LB in the initial topic post yesterday. Now have him included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Atlantafan21 said: Is that their actual rankings? That’s hilarious. Fitzpatrick? Lmfao. Brady sucked this year too at least in Brady standards. In raw #s, Matt is probably around the 4th Best this season. Mahommes, Brees, Luck, and Rivers are the only 4 I’d consider putting over him. Yeah those are the actual scores. Watching his grade throughout the season it was for sure better the back half. He struggled outdoors, particularly early in the season in Philly and in Pittsburgh. He also had one of the highest pressure rates of any QB, which isn’t his fault necessarily, but normally that hurts quality of play from a QB. I think they said on their podcast that indoors Ryan was 90+, but outdoors somewhere in the high 60s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 8 hours ago, rings639 said: Brees, Mahomes, Luck, Rivers, Brady, Rodgers, Wilson, Goff, Mayfield and Fitzmagic. Brees and Mahomes i can see. Maybe Rivers, Luck and Wilson. Brady, Rodgers, Goff, Mayfield and Fitz are extremely laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_The Iceman_Ryan Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Been saying it for years, but no one believes it... D. Campbell is overrated as %#$& on these boards and by the FO and coaching staff. Hes average at best. A poor mans Stephen Nicholas... We still need to get a playmaker next to Debo...which is why I’d look at Keanu as a WLB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red falcon Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, Matt_The Iceman_Ryan said: Been saying it for years, but no one believes it... D. Campbell is overrated as %#$& on these boards and by the FO and coaching staff. Hes average at best. A poor mans Stephen Nicholas... We still need to get a playmaker next to Debo...which is why I’d look at Keanu as a WLB I championed him. He looked lost this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 On 1/4/2019 at 3:35 PM, PriMeTiiMe said: I’d love to hear what 10 QBs were better than Ryan this year Ryan Fitzpatrick was 10th, if that tells you anything. PFF is and always has been a ******* joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossFALCON™ Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 We need to upgrade the dline, oline and could use an upgrade to our corners. About what we already knew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, red falcon said: I championed him. He looked lost this year. Something a buddy of mines (not a falcons fan but had to study his tape) was telling me last year..... Campbell is not a shoot the gap attack the LOS guy... He just doesnt have those instincts .. Now if you ask him to play man coverage or to blitz ... Those are his strengths with his athletic ability. That showed up BIG TIME this year with Deion Jones and Neal out... Those guys do have instincts and also attack the LOS... So the faluts in his game showed wayyyy more. In coverage we played zone more which asked him to to read and react... Thats not his thing tho (instincts). I think he is good at certain role but i think this year kinda showed the core pieces to the team .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theProf Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, atljbo said: Something a buddy of mines (not a falcons fan but had to study his tape) was telling me last year..... Campbell is not a shoot the gap attack the LOS guy... He just doesnt have those instincts .. Now if you ask him to play man coverage or to blitz ... Those are his strengths with his athletic ability. That showed up BIG TIME this year with Deion Jones and Neal out... Those guys do have instincts and also attack the LOS... So the faluts in his game showed wayyyy more. In coverage we played zone more which asked him to to read and react... Thats not his thing tho (instincts). I think he is good at certain role but i think this year kinda showed the core pieces to the team .... I recall the biggest knock on Campbell coming out of college from scouting reports was his lack of instincts. One would think that years of NFL experience would have improved his instincts somewhat by now. Guess not, as lack of instincts still appear to be his greatest weakness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, theProf said: I recall the biggest knock on Campbell coming out of college from scouting reports was his lack of instincts. One would think that years of NFL experience would have improved his instincts somewhat by now. Guess not, as lack of instincts still appear to be his greatest weakness. naw it dont really work like that .... instincts like speed is something that you just have .... I do think the simpler scheme that we have, the repetition, and knowing the ways team want to attack the scheme helps with the lack of instincts.... But yea the way Deion jones break on the balll or the way Neal break on the ball to hit a guy to get an incompletion.. Again i think Campbell is a good LB for the role we ask him to play... The problem is when key guys got hurt **** changed up the way we did things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcndave Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 21 hours ago, atljbo said: Again man I'm not trying to wear a cape for Vic but bruh.. The dude wasn't that bad.... I have Pff also and I kept my eyes on him even at the end of the year during a 5 game stretch where he had 4 sacks and like 7 QB hits or something and returned a fumble for TD andddd a tip that turned into a pick six. Dude grade didn't go up ... lol Again I'm not wearing a cape here... If dude I'd staying here.. He is taking a HUGE paycut.... I just don't think he was that bad lol They take into account opponent, scheme, etc. Doing well when you are in a an easy spot won't raise you rating as much as doing average in a really tough spot. There is some subjectivity to it. Who your lined up against matters as well as how plays develop. If Jarrett gets a high grade on a play, Beasley won't get much of a boost for production on the same snap. He will be seen as a beneficiary. In other words, the average Joe could have been expected to succeed on that snap. Don't sweat a 5 game sample for a player who has posted 4 seasons of data. He is who he has been over 4 years. Nothing more, nothing less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, falcndave said: They take into account opponent, scheme, etc. Doing well when you are in a an easy spot won't raise you rating as much as doing average in a really tough spot. There is some subjectivity to it. Who your lined up against matters as well as how plays develop. If Jarrett gets a high grade on a play, Beasley won't get much of a boost for production on the same snap. He will be seen as a beneficiary. In other words, the average Joe could have been expected to succeed on that snap. Don't sweet a 5 game sample for a player who has posted 4 seasons of data. He is who he has been over 4 years. Nothing more, nothing less. I agree you have to go by the overall picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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