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14 minutes ago, Cheap Talk said:

That is exactly what I told you several months ago, but you and Monoxide begged to differ with me.

There's a big ol' purple at the end of that post...lol

8 minutes ago, PHALCONABERNATHY said:

I think it’s awesomd that Quinn expressed he wants to sign a game management coach. Admit your faults and ask for help. That’s what someone good at their craft does. Someone who learns and wants to get better. Dan Quinn is definitely a good coach and deserves his job.

Amen.

All in all, this might be the single most encouraging end of year press conference I've ever seen.

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1 hour ago, Vandy said:

Poor secondary play was one of the biggest reasons Manuel was let go.

I’ll take it a step further I think the defense as a whole lost its identity.

DQ preaches fast and physical and wants an attack minded defense.

What we saw was a defense that allowed itself to be dictated too.When in all essence he wanted the shoe to be on the other foot.

Thats the one thing I took most out of that presser.DQ knows exactly what he wants and how to employ it.When asked if someone else could come in and help he basically cut that suggestion off.

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1 hour ago, MAD597 said:

They both seemed a little rattled, good they both should be nervous.

I saw determined and had a good idea of where the team wants to go and how to get there.

Rattled ok then agenda much.

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Posted (edited)

25 minutes ago, Francis York Morgan said:

There's a big ol' purple at the end of that post...lol

Amen.

All in all, this might be the single most encouraging end of year press conference I've ever seen.

Oh, I missed it, thanks for the heads-up. Thought maybe people were finally coming to their senses.

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3 hours ago, ⚡Slumerican⚡ said:

I actually wonder if we should hire a team building coach.. Quinn took smitties roster to the Superbowl and the mess we saw this year is more indicative of quinns roster 

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Per McClure:

"Also waiting to talk to guys now in playoffs"

So who are these potential OC candidates?

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3 hours ago, DMT11 said:

Also they did say they are working on extension for Beasley which means we won't be paying 12m for him and they feel there is def a place for him here.

Excellent news! Especially since they are keeping him

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2 hours ago, abcranford2 said:

This is a straight lie.  Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, and Jake Matthews on offense. 

Alford was the only on defense cause trufant was hurt.

Only one player from Smitty played on the defensive side of the ball in the superbowl.

Actually alot more players than that, but I was exaggerating the fact to make a point Quinn hasn't exactly put together a solid team since his arrival. Sure, he's found some talented players.. But that dosnt always make a team

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13 minutes ago, rudy said:

Per McClure:

"Also waiting to talk to guys now in playoffs"

So who are these potential OC candidates?

Not sure yet, how many teams in the playoffs run a wco? That would help narrow it down 

Looks like Texans, Chiefs, and Bears.. 

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11 minutes ago, ⚡Slumerican⚡ said:

Actually alot more players than that, but I was exaggerating the fact to make a point Quinn hasn't exactly put together a solid team since his arrival. Sure, he's found some talented players.. But that dosnt always make a team

Mack, Gabriel, Coleman, Levitre, Chris Chester, Sanu, Tamme, Hardy, Robinson, Hooper, Nick Williams on the offense all came during DQ's Tenure (Schraeder played much better after DQ got here and so did Freeman and DiMarco).

Deion Jones, Keanu Neal, Poole, Beasley, Campbell, Grady Jarrett, Jalen Collins, Clayborn, Upshaw, Brooks Reed, Freeney (basically the entire starting defense minus Alford and Ricardo Allen all came during DQ's Tenure). Ricardo Allen didn't even play during Smitty's time and was cut but DQ moved him to safety where he has excelled.

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1. We are keeping the same offense

2. Keeping jarrett, julio, and Coleman.

3. Hiring game mgt coach

4. Still interviewing ocs. Looking at some in playoffs. 

5. Might bring vb44 back on a reduced salary.

6. Bye duke really, Shraeder, Levitre.

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And not for nothing but is anyone going to acknowledge the reality that the vast vast majority of NFL head coaches struggle with game management stuff? If you aren't Belichick, Payton, Pederson or McVay, you're probably going to screw up clock management, 4th down calls, etc. Doesnt make it okay but its sorta the nature of the biz. And its why having someone on staff makes so much sense. 

 

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16 minutes ago, ⚡Slumerican⚡ said:

Actually alot more players than that, but I was exaggerating the fact to make a point Quinn hasn't exactly put together a solid team since his arrival. Sure, he's found some talented players.. But that dosnt always make a team

Dimarco and Schraeder...then Bryant and Bosher on special teams.  That's it.

Rico was cut by Smith and Freeman was 3rd string.

Alford was still the only Smitty player on defense during the superbowl run.

Quinn replaced almost the entire starting roster on both sides of the ball and people wonder why we don't have depth.  We had no developmental talent because mike smith preferred to target special teams players after the second round. 

Mike Smith preferred veterans and team captains who hustled hard.  Practically no younger players ever got a chance to beat out older players.  Quinn prefers fast and physical players that he can develop. I think Quinn's way will work better.

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Just now, MilleniumFalcon said:

Mack, Gabriel, Coleman, Levitre, Chris Chester, Gabriel, Sanu, Tamme, Hardy, Robinson, Hooper, Nick Williams on the offense all came during DQ's Tenure (Schraeder played much better after DQ got here and so did Freeman and DiMarco).

Deion Jones, Keanu Neal, Poole, Beasley, Campbell, Grady Jarrett, Jalen Collins, Clayborn, Upshaw, Brooks Reed, Freeney (basically the entire starting defense minus Alford and Ricardo Allen all came during DQ's Tenure). Ricardo Allen didn't even play during Smitty's time and was cut but DQ moved him to safety where he has excelled.

Paul warrilow was also one of smitties guys Quinn played 2016. Several guys have since moved on, but Quinn Smitties team wasn't horrible.. Imo his game management cost his job.. And hopefully Quinn is doing the right thing by hiring a game manager 

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1 minute ago, DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry said:

And not for nothing but is anyone going to acknowledge the reality that the vast vast majority of NFL head coaches struggle with game management stuff? If you aren't Belichick, Payton, Pederson or McVay, you're probably going to screw up clock management, 4th down calls, etc. Doesnt make it okay but its sorta the nature of the biz. And its why having someone on staff makes so much sense. 

 

Even just from a management standpoint it makes sense.  Paying someone to feed you good information so you can make quick decisions in such situations just makes sense.  I think it was you upstream that made the same point I thought of when I heard about this -- coaches are uncapped.  Spend the money and get the job done.

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Just now, JDaveG said:

Even just from a management standpoint it makes sense.  Paying someone to feed you good information so you can make quick decisions in such situations just makes sense.  I think it was you upstream that made the same point I thought of when I heard about this -- coaches are uncapped.  Spend the money and get the job done.

Its the same reason for kicking Schaub off the bench to the sideline. You wanna pay him $4.5m a year? Do it as a QB coach. Don't waste cap dollars to obtain benefit you can obtain without cap implications. 

Use every advantage possible off the field. If thats having one "game management" guy, so be it. If its having one guy for the clock, one guy for 4th down, so be it. 

 

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5 minutes ago, osiruz said:

1. We are keeping the same offense

2. Keeping jarrett, julio, and Coleman.

3. Hiring game mgt coach

4. Still interviewing ocs. Looking at some in playoffs. 

5. Might bring vb44 back on a reduced salary.

6. Bye duke really, Shraeder, Levitre.

So who from the Texans, Bears, or Cheifs could we be after? Qb coach ready to make OC? 

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1 minute ago, DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry said:

Its the same reason for kicking Schaub off the bench to the sideline. You wanna pay him $4.5m a year? Do it as a QB coach. Don't waste cap dollars to obtain benefit you can obtain without cap implications. 

Use every advantage possible off the field. If thats having one "game management" guy, so be it. If its having one guy for the clock, one guy for 4th down, so be it. 

 

Absolutely.  And obviously, the less responsibility (I'm the 4th down clock management specialist -- I don't have as much on my plate as the OC), the less you have to pay them, so it's not like you're risking unprofitability.  The juice is well worth the squeeze.

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9 minutes ago, ⚡Slumerican⚡ said:

Paul warrilow was also one of smitties guys Quinn played 2016. Several guys have since moved on, but Quinn Smitties team wasn't horrible.. Imo his game management cost his job.. And hopefully Quinn is doing the right thing by hiring a game manager 

Yea...worrilow started 1 game in 2016.  Played special teams mostly. I'll give you that one.  Good job.

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21 minutes ago, ⚡Slumerican⚡ said:

Paul warrilow was also one of smitties guys Quinn played 2016. Several guys have since moved on, but Quinn Smitties team wasn't horrible.. Imo his game management cost his job.. And hopefully Quinn is doing the right thing by hiring a game manager 

I thought we were talking about players that actually played though.  Being that Quinn supposedly rode Smith's roster to the superbowl.

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8 minutes ago, abcranford2 said:

I thought we were talking about players that actually played though.  Being that Quinn supposedly rode Smith's roster to the superbowl.

Worrilow had a groan injury that year, he still played but had to tuff it out. 

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4 hours ago, PriMeTiiMe said:

This is awesome news along with Quinn running the defense. I wish they had done this prior. Everyone saw how good the defense became towards the end of 2016 with DQ running the show.

Get someone who knows how to manage the game situations and we are golden as long we don't screw up the OC hiring.

gulp. Please, Please NOOOOO.

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