How crazy is this.....

[IamFRESCO1 471]

Our starting CBs together......had 0 picks (Alford & Trufant)

 

That seems kind of hard to do...(or not do.)

[ATLSlobberKnockers 4,466]

Even with the injuries to safety this is absolutely disgusting. Both played appalling football this season. If I hear about trufants pass defense stats I will puke. He is playing flag football at this point, defending the run.

Edited January 1 by ATLSlobberKnockers

[Sir Joe™ 2,841]

And 2,545,947 penalties between them. 

2,545,900 of them being Alford's. 

[Smiler11 4,436]

Very crazy

[BlazerSlayer 178]

I used to think that Trufant had low ints totals because no QB threw towards him. Now, I see a cornerback who gives up plenty of completions, can't catch a ball, reluctant to tackle, and gets a high salary.

If cap allowed, would have no issue with him leaving. Alford tries but his penalties drive me mad.

Just seen that his cap hit would be over 14m if traded or released.

Edited January 1 by BlazerSlayer

[Falconsin2012 15,276]

Is this a first in NFL history for s pair of outside cornerbacks?

[thofin21 1,276]

Because they are both subpar. 

[SpongeDad 14,641]

I'm honestly not surprise with Trufant's butterfingers. We're talking about a CB who wears sticky gloves for God's sake.

[atljbo 18,392]

insane

[Cole World 2,815]

Oliver had 1 and Poole had a few. Got to remember to count our Nickelback as a starter.

[175_Ranger_Falcon 1,459]

Almost every time a QB drops back to pass, I know it’s either going to be a completion or there’s a flag for PI. And you guys wonder why our D couldn’t get off the field. But it’s MM fault though

[mqg96 1,839]

It's gonna be hard now since we're picking 14th, but IF Deandre Baker is available, you must grab him to replace Alford OR Trufant. Otherwise just go for the O-line or D-line. Based on what I've seen since 2016 I'd rather get rid of Trufant. Alford had a gaming winning pick 6 against the Redskins in 2015 and a key pick 6 in the Super Bowl against Brady which were more memorable to me than what Trufant has done. With Neal and Allen healthy it was Alford who stepped up his game last season and Trufant was still mediocre. Since Trufant was drafted in 2013, we've only made the playoffs ONCE with him healthy. What has Trufant really done significant for this team? I believe Deandre Baker and Isiah Oliver would be a mega upgraded duo than the lousy disappointing Trufant and Alford experiment that hasn't been as good. 

[TheUsualStuff 3,546]

No... you don't count the nickel as a starter. The starters are the guys who start at the two positions that are on the field for every down.

In fairness though... we really should have had about 5 from those guys. Trufant alone dropped 4 of them.

[dawgsjw 560]

Now that I think about it, Trufant hasn't really had any memorable plays, unless I've forgotten something big he has done in a big moment.  I agree that Alford has made some big plays in key games and he is at least trying to make a play (reason to get flagged) vs Tru playing soft coverage or avoiding the tackle (vs Chubb's long run). 

[octoslash 10,426]

On top of everything else, I'm not sure Oliver is going to take a starting job anytime soon either.  He looked pretty bad overall, though he did make a few plays toward the end.  Hopefully his are just normal rookie problems. 

[175_Ranger_Falcon 1,459]

5 minutes ago, octoslash said:

On top of everything else, I'm not sure Oliver is going to take a starting job anytime soon either.  He looked pretty bad overall, though he did make a few plays toward the end.  Hopefully his are just normal rookie problems. 

Oliver isn’t the guy. Don’t want to hear the excuse that he’s a rookie. He just doesn’t pass the eye ball test. 

[4dabirds 3,002]

1 hour ago, 175_Ranger_Falcon said:

Almost every time a QB drops back to pass, I know it’s either going to be a completion or there’s a flag for PI. And you guys wonder why our D couldn’t get off the field. But it’s MM fault though

MM was the DC, and it was his job to make sure that his players were communicating, that they were in position to make plays, that they understood what they were up against, and that his position coaches were hard at work with getting techinique down. A system has to be in place for these things to come together, and that obviously wasn't happening. Alford and Trufant have made plays in the past, so why the dropoff, why the lack of focus, where'd the competitive spirit go? That's coaching, and MM along with others didn't do a good enough job.

[Vandy 25,973]

10 minutes ago, 175_Ranger_Falcon said:

Oliver isn’t the guy. Don’t want to hear the excuse that he’s a rookie. He just doesn’t pass the eye ball test. 

You can never tell much about a rookie CB from “the eye ball test”.

[175_Ranger_Falcon 1,459]

4 minutes ago, Vandy said:

You can never tell much about a rookie CB from “the eye ball test”.

Lattimore and Donte Jackson passed my eye test

[taintedme 1]

ZERO passes defended, too. 

 

Rk	Player	Team	Pos	Comb	Total	Ast	Sck	SFTY	PDef	Int	TDs	Yds	Lng	FF	Rec	TD

62

Desmond Trufant

ATL

CB

66

55

11

1.0     0         0          0     0         -        -        0      0        0

109

Robert Alford

ATL

CB

49

42

7

0.0

0         0          0     0         -        -        0      0        0

[Vandy 25,973]

1 minute ago, 175_Ranger_Falcon said:

Lattimore and Donte Jackson passed my eye test

If you say so. Most rookie corners struggle mightedly in their rookie season. Year 2 is when you can see whether they have ‘it’. 

[Osiruz 6,679]

yes but how many times did Trufant congratulate his WR on making a good first down catch?

[175_Ranger_Falcon 1,459]

10 minutes ago, Vandy said:

If you say so. Most rookie corners struggle mightedly in their rookie season. Year 2 is when you can see whether they have ‘it’. 

I’ll eat crow if he turns the corner next year. I just don’t n see it

Edited January 1 by 175_Ranger_Falcon

[mattyicefalcon 3,621]

4 hours ago, IamFRESCO1 said:

Our starting CBs together......had 0 picks (Alford & Trufant)

 

That seems kind of hard to do...(or not do.)

Our starting CBs wouldnt even start in rest of the league...its that effin sad!

Kazee was a lone bright star on defense! 

[Cole World 2,815]

2 hours ago, TheUsualStuff said:

No... you don't count the nickel as a starter. The starters are the guys who start at the two positions that are on the field for every down.

In fairness though... we really should have had about 5 from those guys. Trufant alone dropped 4 of them.

Tell that to Quinn. He does count the Nickelback as a starter.

if we open up the game in Nickel than that’s a starter.