Posted January 1 Our starting CBs together......had 0 picks (Alford & Trufant) That seems kind of hard to do...(or not do.) Monolith2001, Falcon Blitz, TheFalcoholic and 6 others like this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 (edited) Even with the injuries to safety this is absolutely disgusting. Both played appalling football this season. If I hear about trufants pass defense stats I will puke. He is playing flag football at this point, defending the run. Edited January 1 by ATLSlobberKnockers DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins, PokerSteve and Flyin' In DC like this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 And 2,545,947 penalties between them. 2,545,900 of them being Alford's. IamFRESCO1, PokerSteve and octoslash like this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 (edited) I used to think that Trufant had low ints totals because no QB threw towards him. Now, I see a cornerback who gives up plenty of completions, can't catch a ball, reluctant to tackle, and gets a high salary. If cap allowed, would have no issue with him leaving. Alford tries but his penalties drive me mad. Just seen that his cap hit would be over 14m if traded or released. Edited January 1 by BlazerSlayer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 Is this a first in NFL history for s pair of outside cornerbacks? IamFRESCO1 likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 I'm honestly not surprise with Trufant's butterfingers. We're talking about a CB who wears sticky gloves for God's sake. ryantlanta likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 Oliver had 1 and Poole had a few. Got to remember to count our Nickelback as a starter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 Almost every time a QB drops back to pass, I know it’s either going to be a completion or there’s a flag for PI. And you guys wonder why our D couldn’t get off the field. But it’s MM fault though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 It's gonna be hard now since we're picking 14th, but IF Deandre Baker is available, you must grab him to replace Alford OR Trufant. Otherwise just go for the O-line or D-line. Based on what I've seen since 2016 I'd rather get rid of Trufant. Alford had a gaming winning pick 6 against the Redskins in 2015 and a key pick 6 in the Super Bowl against Brady which were more memorable to me than what Trufant has done. With Neal and Allen healthy it was Alford who stepped up his game last season and Trufant was still mediocre. Since Trufant was drafted in 2013, we've only made the playoffs ONCE with him healthy. What has Trufant really done significant for this team? I believe Deandre Baker and Isiah Oliver would be a mega upgraded duo than the lousy disappointing Trufant and Alford experiment that hasn't been as good. IamFRESCO1 likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 No... you don't count the nickel as a starter. The starters are the guys who start at the two positions that are on the field for every down. In fairness though... we really should have had about 5 from those guys. Trufant alone dropped 4 of them. PokerSteve likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 Now that I think about it, Trufant hasn't really had any memorable plays, unless I've forgotten something big he has done in a big moment. I agree that Alford has made some big plays in key games and he is at least trying to make a play (reason to get flagged) vs Tru playing soft coverage or avoiding the tackle (vs Chubb's long run). mqg96 likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 On top of everything else, I'm not sure Oliver is going to take a starting job anytime soon either. He looked pretty bad overall, though he did make a few plays toward the end. Hopefully his are just normal rookie problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 5 minutes ago, octoslash said: On top of everything else, I'm not sure Oliver is going to take a starting job anytime soon either. He looked pretty bad overall, though he did make a few plays toward the end. Hopefully his are just normal rookie problems. Oliver isn’t the guy. Don’t want to hear the excuse that he’s a rookie. He just doesn’t pass the eye ball test. Ryan2Julio11, Flying Falcon and Jerz #DukeSZN like this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 1 hour ago, 175_Ranger_Falcon said: Almost every time a QB drops back to pass, I know it’s either going to be a completion or there’s a flag for PI. And you guys wonder why our D couldn’t get off the field. But it’s MM fault though MM was the DC, and it was his job to make sure that his players were communicating, that they were in position to make plays, that they understood what they were up against, and that his position coaches were hard at work with getting techinique down. A system has to be in place for these things to come together, and that obviously wasn't happening. Alford and Trufant have made plays in the past, so why the dropoff, why the lack of focus, where'd the competitive spirit go? That's coaching, and MM along with others didn't do a good enough job. PokerSteve and Vandy like this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 10 minutes ago, 175_Ranger_Falcon said: Oliver isn’t the guy. Don’t want to hear the excuse that he’s a rookie. He just doesn’t pass the eye ball test. You can never tell much about a rookie CB from “the eye ball test”. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, Vandy said: You can never tell much about a rookie CB from “the eye ball test”. Lattimore and Donte Jackson passed my eye test IamFRESCO1 likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 ZERO passes defended, too. Rk Player Team Pos Comb Total Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int TDs Yds Lng FF Rec TD 62 Desmond Trufant ATL CB 66 55 11 1.0 0 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 109 Robert Alford ATL CB 49 42 7 0.0 0 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 IamFRESCO1 likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 1 minute ago, 175_Ranger_Falcon said: Lattimore and Donte Jackson passed my eye test If you say so. Most rookie corners struggle mightedly in their rookie season. Year 2 is when you can see whether they have ‘it’. PokerSteve likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 yes but how many times did Trufant congratulate his WR on making a good first down catch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Vandy said: If you say so. Most rookie corners struggle mightedly in their rookie season. Year 2 is when you can see whether they have ‘it’. I’ll eat crow if he turns the corner next year. I just don’t n see it Edited January 1 by 175_Ranger_Falcon Flying Falcon likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 4 hours ago, IamFRESCO1 said: Our starting CBs together......had 0 picks (Alford & Trufant) That seems kind of hard to do...(or not do.) Our starting CBs wouldnt even start in rest of the league...its that effin sad! Kazee was a lone bright star on defense! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1 2 hours ago, TheUsualStuff said: No... you don't count the nickel as a starter. The starters are the guys who start at the two positions that are on the field for every down. In fairness though... we really should have had about 5 from those guys. Trufant alone dropped 4 of them. Tell that to Quinn. He does count the Nickelback as a starter. if we open up the game in Nickel than that’s a starter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites