Flying Falcon Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Watching Seattle's defense last night showed me that it was never Dan Quinn that established, created, or substained that defense. It has to be Pete Carroll. Quinn has rode his success to a gravy job in Atlanta and now has broke the wheels off a defense that was only a middle of the road to begin with. I mean, Smitty put together some tough defenses with Lofton, Spoon, and others too, so Quinn's high rated defense in 2016 isn't nothing to really toot our noses up for. I just don't see our defense really improving anywhere beyond where we are with this guy. I have prepared myself to see more of this face: in 2019. He is who he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ya_boi_j Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 He wants speed and athleticism. Not football players. Fortunately in that search he found at least 4 football players. That **** pic though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: He wants speed and athleticism. Not football players. Fortunately in that search he found at least 4 football players And 7 athletic, non-cohesive people that's just out there to get paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysnill1 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 LMAO! so it was after watching Seattle's defense give up 31 points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Long Shot Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 1 minute ago, ya_boi_j said: He wants speed and athleticism. Not football players. Fortunately in that search he found at least 4 football players. That **** pic though I'm pretty sure he wants football players with speed and athleticism.... Which is pretty much what every single coach in the NFL is looking for. Just like most though, he has some hits (Keanu, Deion Jones, Grady Jarret, Campbell) and some misses (Beasely, Duke Riley, Jalon Collins.) I don't have a problem at all with the talent we have brought in during Quinn era. Our roster when relatively healthy is as stacked as any roster in the NFL. I have a bigger issue with the play-calling, game management, situational awareness and his hire of Sark and Mannuel. Most of Quinn's issues as coach have been evident since day 1 and our collapse at the Superbowl showcased them in all of their hideous glory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: He wants speed and athleticism. Not football players. Fortunately in that search he found at least 4 football players. That **** pic though Bingo. You just identified some of his major issues as a defensive strategist and player evaluator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird3 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, raysnill1 said: LMAO! so it was after watching Seattle's defense give up 31 points? Imagine what we'd give up Lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Bunch of idiotic none sense, Carroll is a defensive minded coach and nothing prevents him from getting good players to fit his scheme. Its as if other teams aren't allowed to put together a good defense once we poach one of their DC's. Our defense is the most talented defense we've had since 2004. We have good young talent at DT(grady), LB(dion), DE(Takk), and DB (Neal, Allen). What we need is to surround those players with good complementary role players and a DC that can develop them and get the most out of them and help lighten Quinn's load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dr Long Shot said: I'm pretty sure he wants football players with speed and athleticism.... Which is pretty much what every single coach in the NFL is looking for. Just like most though, he has some hits (Keanu, Deion Jones, Grady Jarret, Campbell) and some misses (Beasely, Duke Riley, Jalon Collins.) I don't have a problem at all with the talent we have brought in during Quinn era. Our roster when relatively healthy is as stacked as any roster in the NFL. I have a bigger issue with the play-calling, game management, situational awareness and his hire of Sark and Mannuel. Most of Quinn's issues as coach have been evident since day 1 and our collapse at the Superbowl showcased them in all of their hideous glory. That is the problem. His defenses doesn't do well with no name players or scheming players to play to their strengths. Pete Carroll's defense seems to have a lot of no names playing within a system that seems to work for them. I don't even know what system we running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Flying Falcon said: That is the problem. His defenses doesn't do well with no name players or scheming players to play to their strengths. Pete Carroll's defense seems to have a lot of no names playing within a system that seems to work for them. I don't even know what system we running. I believe it's the Charmin Chernobyl 3-8. If not, it's most likely the Manuel 4-7 Foamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The O.D.B Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 DUKED.........LOL!! DLed, is that you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 36 minutes ago, Flying Falcon said: That is the problem. His defenses doesn't do well with no name players or scheming players to play to their strengths. Pete Carroll's defense seems to have a lot of no names playing within a system that seems to work for them. I don't even know what system we running. Lmao frank clarke, jarran reed, wagner, kj Wright, and shaquil griffin are nobodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RING OF HONOR Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 34 minutes ago, PokerSteve said: I believe it's the Charmin Chernobyl 3-8. If not, it's most likely the Manuel 4-7 Foamy. ****!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club212 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 If DQ's hit & misses are .500, that won't get you in the playoffs, so you're basically saying your happy being mediocore??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atl Falcon Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Pete is the second best coach in the NFL and not even close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geneaut Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Jamie Dukes I assume? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqg96 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 (edited) I also want to add on that defense in Florida was built by Will Muschamp too. Dan Quinn is a great defensive coordinator when he has the right defensive minded head coach to give him the talent. Dan Quinn's issue isn't really talent tho, it's failures to make adjustments. Pete Corroll can adjust and keep his defenses consistent even without L.O.B. Dan Quinn cannot. Quinn believes the same philosophy back then is going to work now. It's also a reflection of his 4th quarter blown leads. Once again not make adjustments or getting out coached time and time again when we're in one score games. Edited December 25, 2018 by mqg96 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pay the Zebra Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, mqg96 said: I also want to add on that defense in Florida was built by Will Muschamp too. Dan Quinn is a great defensive coordinator when he has the right defensive minded head coach to give him the talent. Dan Quinn's issue isn't really talent tho, it's failures to make adjustments. Pete Corroll can adjust and keep his defenses consistent. Dan Quinn cannot. Quinn believes the same philosophy back then is going to work now. It's also a reflection of his 4th quarter blown leads. Once again not make adjustments or getting out coached time and time again when we're in one score games. Don't forget Kris Richard as a mastermind of the LoB edit: quoted the wrong person Edited December 25, 2018 by Pay the Zebra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Blank Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 I thought this was a Duke Riley thread...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Flying Falcon said: . I mean, Smitty put together some tough defenses Is he talking about the same defense that started Worrilow and Barto and couldn’t stop a decent college offense? Is this the Defense you are referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 You're right Takk, Deion, Jarrett, Campbell, Neal, Rico, Kazee, Oliver, & Senat all suck!! The fact you said Smith had a good defense shows just now clueless you really are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E. T. Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 I honestly think we have a talented defense, just no one to coordinate it together. Same goes for the offense.....we've all seen how this offense rolls with good coordination. Marinate on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Dog THA GAWD Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Our defense sucks. Our coaching sucks. but: KICKBALL WORLD CHAMPS, BABY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geneaut Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Stray Dog THA GAWD said: Our defense sucks. Our coaching sucks. but: KICKBALL WORLD CHAMPS, BABY! I hope Santa brings you a new schtick tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 8 hours ago, Flying Falcon said: Watching Seattle's defense last night showed me that it was never Dan Quinn that established, created, or substained that defense. It has to be Pete Carroll. Quinn has rode his success to a gravy job in Atlanta and now has broke the wheels off a defense that was only a middle of the road to begin with. I mean, Smitty put together some tough defenses with Lofton, Spoon, and others too, so Quinn's high rated defense in 2016 isn't nothing to really toot our noses up for. I just don't see our defense really improving anywhere beyond where we are with this guy. I have prepared myself to see more of this face: in 2019. He is who he is. Whenever Quinn takes over playcalling, our defense drastically improves. His defense was equally as important as the offense in 2016 as we stormed into the playoffs and Super Bowl. I don’t think we allowed 20 points in the 1st half of all 3 playoff games combined. The games were over at the half due to solid fundamental defense and turnovers. Unfortunately Quinn lost his HC voice in the 2nd half of the SB and didn’t order 3 straight runs and a punt once up 28-3. Ask his old players...Irvin, Sherman, Thomas & Co all heaped praise on him. You know more than them? So do yourself a favor and stop while you are behind. Say what you want about how he handles the offensive side of the ball, but he is a shockingly gifted talent evaluator and a wonderful coach on that side of the ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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