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So there's all these rumors and noise about Tomlin getting the boot in Pittsburgh. I doubt it, because the Rooneys have proven to stick with coaches for the long haul and it's worked out for them. You can't argue with the six silver footballs.

HOWEVER...if he is fired and I was AB I'd be on the phone in about 1/2 second. Coaches like that don't come around very often.

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With that in mind, here’s a look at how each head coach stacks up against their peers -- factoring in everything from their historical record to how they’re getting better (or worse) in recent seasons. While the best of the best are easy to pick out of the crowd nowadays, the separation starts to become razor-thin beyond the big names at the top.

 

1. Bill Belichick, New England Patriots

The dean of NFL head coaches doubles as the best one. Belichick sports five Super Bowl rings, 250 wins and an incredible 15 division titles. While many can debate when the Patriots' dynasty may come to an end, it’s safe to say it will keep rolling in New England as long as this coach is in charge.

 

2. Pete Carroll, Seattle Seahawks

Age is just a number and nobody proves that more than Carroll, who despite being the oldest coach in the league (turns 67 on Sept. 15) is still going strong. He’s still one of only a handful to win both a national title and Super Bowl but faces one of his bigger challenges ahead as Seattle goes into a bit of a rebuilding mode in the near future.

 

3. Mike Tomlin, Pittsburgh Steelers

One of the most respected defensive minds in the game and often lauded as a player’s coach, Tomlin (above, right) is still going strong with the Steelers. He’s got six division titles in the rough AFC North to his credit and a Super Bowl ring as well -- all while becoming one of the few who has embraced a wide-open approach on offense.

 

4. Sean Payton, New Orleans Saints

After three straight 7-9 campaigns, Payton guided an incredible turnaround in New Orleans thanks to his embrace of the run game and a bigger emphasis on defense. His draft picks have been better lately as he’s gotten more hands on and the Saints may have been in the Super Bowl again last season if they could tackle a bit better along the sidelines.

 

5. Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles

Winning the Super Bowl in your second season as a head coach is even more impressive considering he was a high school coach just a decade ago. The former NFL backup quarterback has taken an aggressive approach to the game and it’s paid off with a ring and a bright future in Philly.

 

6. Dan Quinn, Atlanta Falcons

Quinn will forever be linked to the second half of Super Bowl LI but even with that dubious loss on his record, it’s been a very special run for the fast-rising coach in Atlanta. At just 47, he already has three career playoff wins and probably is in line for several more soon.

 

7. Mike Zimmer, Minnesota Vikings

Mike ZimmerIt took way too long for Zimmer (right) to get a head coaching gig but he’s more than made the most of it by forming one of the league’s best defenses in Minnesota and providing the franchise with some much-needed consistency. After a 13-3 campaign had the team knocking on the door of the Super Bowl, the Vikings may well be the favorite in the NFC this year.

 

8. Jon Gruden, Oakland Raiders

Despite having a Super Bowl ring, 100 career wins and a massive new contract, there’s still a bit of a mystery surrounding Gruden thanks to spending the past decade in the booth instead of the sidelines. While he’s maintained a deep connection to the game, it remains to be seen how that will play out over the coming years in Oakland and Las Vegas but Raiders fans certainly hope it goes like it did at the beginning of his coaching career instead of the end of his first stint.

 

9. Mike McCarthy, Green Bay Packers

He’s made the playoffs nine times in his 12 seasons in Green Bay and captured six division titles and a Super Bowl ring to boot. Packers fans certainly have their issues with him at times but he’s formed an incredible tandem with Aaron Rodgers and has developed a ton of talent from the draft.

 

10. Ron Rivera, Carolina Panthers

Riverboat Ron has had some downs during his tenure in Carolina but the highs he’s taken the franchise to speak for themselves, including a Super Bowl appearance and three playoff wins in a total of four postseason trips. The former Chicago Bears linebacker understands defense but it’s the Panthers’ offensive changes this year that may hold the key to his future in Charlotte.

 

11. Andy Reid, Kansas City Chiefs

Incredibly, this is Reid’s second decade as a head coach in the NFL and you don’t survive that long without having a lot of success between the lines. Reid’s postseason record and issues with the clock are well documented but he’s hardly been stodgy when it comes to innovating on offense. Perhaps most impressive is his budding coaching tree, which touches seven other teams’ head coaches.

 

12. Sean McVay, Los Angeles Rams

The youngest head coach in league history has wasted no time in leaving his mark on the game and could move up this list quickly with some more success in L.A. over the coming years. He won Coach of the Year honors in 2017 as a rookie and seems primed for big things with a loaded Rams squad.

 

13. John Harbaugh, Baltimore Ravens

Harbaugh has been with the franchise for what seems like forever and is now the team’s all-time winningest head coach. He has that Super Bowl win over his brother back in 2012 but has slipped in recent years with just one playoff appearance in the last five seasons.

 

14. Doug Marrone, Jacksonville Jaguars

Marrone helped turn the Jaguars into one of the biggest storylines in the NFL last year with a division title and close loss to the Patriots in the AFC title game. After doing a solid job in Buffalo, it appears he’s Tom Coughlin’s guy going forward in Jacksonville by playing to the team’s strengths.

 

15. Kyle Shanahan, San Francisco 49ers

Kyle ShanahanShanahan (right) has been a part of some of the best offenses in the league the past few years and had a very successful debut with the 49ers, guiding them to an incredible second half surge with a young QB. Now there’s talk of San Francisco being a potential NFC contender and a lot of that has to do with their fast-rising head coach.

 

16. Bill O’Brien, Houston Texans

Injuries and QB issues have been a plague on O’Brien’s tenure in Houston but he’s still managed to win nine games three out of four seasons and make a pair of playoff appearances. He’s taken more control of the team this offseason and will need to get over the hump soon with this roster.

 

17. Jason Garrett, Dallas Cowboys

Given the pressures of working for Jerry Jones and helming the Cowboys, Garrett making it to nine seasons with the club as head coach is rather impressive. Still, for as good a job as he’s done with the offensive line and the budding young stars in the backfield, there’s only been one playoff win to show for it and just three of the eight seasons over .500.

 

 

18. Jay Gruden, Washington Redskins

Gruden is the first head coach owner Dan Snyder has ever given a second contract to, which probably says more about the franchise than the coach himself. While it’s been a solid tenure that has included a NFC East title and playoff appearance, there remain plenty of question marks about Washington going forward.

 

19. Adam Gase, Miami Dolphins

Gase was responsible for an impressive turnaround in 2016 with the Dolphins to reach the postseason but '17 was much more of a regression to the mean for the franchise with things going haywire on a number of fronts. We’ll see whether Gase can reverse what happened and go back to trending upwards as a head coach early enough this season.

 

20. Sean McDermott, Buffalo Bills

McDermott wasn’t well known to many outside league circles but he quickly left a mark in Buffalo by guiding the team to their first playoff appearance in 18 years. Getting back again will be a challenge but the veteran coach is building things the right way with the Bills.

 

21. Anthony Lynn, Los Angeles Chargers

Lynn not only had to deal with being a rookie head coach in the NFL last season but also had to sort out the Chargers moving from San Diego to Los Angeles and playing in a soccer stadium while doing so. He managed to keep his head above water and could be primed for bigger things going forward after getting experience under his belt.

 

22. Todd Bowles, New York Jets

Bowles has only won 10 games the past two seasons, just as many as he did in Year 2 in New York. While that might not sound great, the fact that he was able to even win that many despite one of the worst rosters in the league is still fairly impressive.

 

23. Pat Shurmur, New York Giants

Given how things have gone in Cleveland after he left, those nine wins over two years during his first stint as head coach should probably be a pretty big positive for Shurmur’s coaching acumen. He did well as offensive coordinator with the Eagles and Vikings but faces big expectations in the Big Apple.

 

24. Frank Reich, Indianapolis Colts

A longtime backup quarterback who turned in his fair share of comebacks, Reich grinded away as an assistant for nearly a decade before finally getting the opportunity to return to Indianapolis as head coach after the bizarre Josh McDaniels situation. We’ll see just where he takes the Colts early in his tenure but one thing’s for certain: he’ll be a much better coach (and higher on this list) if Andrew Luck is healthy.

 

25. Matt Patricia, Detroit Lions

His tenure in Detroit has started off rocky but the longtime Patriots defensive coordinator wouldn’t have gone just anywhere to begin his head coaching career. He’ll need every bit of those rocket science smarts to get the Lions back into contention on a more consistent basis.

 

26. Steve Wilks, Arizona Cardinals

Wilks has been all over the country as an assistant and was a hot commodity as a head coach this offseason given his track record on defense and being a steady voice in the locker room. He’s got a good chance to move up quickly on this list given the wealth of talent he inherits in the desert.

 

27. Mike Vrabel, Tennessee Titans

Vrabel has transitioned from former Super Bowl-winning player to head coach in a rapid amount of time. You know he can connect well to players given how good of a recruiter he was at Ohio State and it didn’t take him long to rise to be a defensive coordinator in the league. The learning curve might be steep but there’s a lot of upside with Vrabel in Tennessee.

 

28. Matt Nagy, Chicago Bears

The Andy Reid protege was a bit of an unknown before he was plucked by the Bears to lead the franchise but he’s been a big part of introducing a ton of creative concepts to the league. The former Arena League QB is hoping to have a big impact with a budding young offensive core in the Windy City.

 

29. Marvin Lewis, Cincinnati Bengals

The second-longest tenured head coach in the NFL was a surprise to return in 2018 after another sub-par season in Cincinnati. The 0-7 playoff record speaks volumes and is a big reason why Bengals fans want some new blood running the team.

 

30. Dirk Koetter, Tampa Bay Bucs

There’s was a lot of optimism surrounding the Bucs being an offensive juggernaut coming off a 9-7 debut campaign for Koetter but that never materialized. Now the seat is quite hot for a head coach dealing with issues on both sides of the ball heading into the season.

 

31. Vance Joseph, Denver Broncos

Joseph nearly went one-and-done as a head coach with the Broncos last year thanks in part to plenty of blowouts during the team's discouraging eight-game losing streak after their bye week. We’ll see if he can live and learn after such a rocky start in Denver.

 

32. Hue Jackson, Cleveland Browns

While there’s confidence from some that Jackson can lead the Browns out of the gutter, 1-31 as a head coach with the team is still 1-31.

 

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14 minutes ago, since68andcounting said:

So there's all these rumors and noise about Tomlin getting the boot in Pittsburgh. I doubt it, because the Rooneys have proven to stick with coaches for the long haul and it's worked out for them. You can't argue with the six silver footballs.

HOWEVER...if he is fired and I was AB I'd be on the phone in about 1/2 second. Coaches like that don't come around very often.

Tomlin’s been a terrible coach for years now in Pittsburgh. Dysfunctional locker rooms are always a reflection of the coaching. 

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10 minutes ago, Vandy said:

Tomlin’s been a terrible coach for years now in Pittsburgh. Dysfunctional locker rooms are always a reflection of the coaching. 

I disagree. Diva is as diva does and a bad apple is a bad apple. And you have to put up with them because they are a TALENTED bad apple.

Go watch the NFLN special on T.O. Listen to what Andy Reid says. He tried EVERYTHING with that dude. Nothing worked. Because T.O. was basically an immature ****.

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24 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

With that in mind, here’s a look at how each head coach stacks up against their peers -- factoring in everything from their historical record to how they’re getting better (or worse) in recent seasons. While the best of the best are easy to pick out of the crowd nowadays, the separation starts to become razor-thin beyond the big names at the top.

 

1. Bill Belichick, New England Patriots

The dean of NFL head coaches doubles as the best one. Belichick sports five Super Bowl rings, 250 wins and an incredible 15 division titles. While many can debate when the Patriots' dynasty may come to an end, it’s safe to say it will keep rolling in New England as long as this coach is in charge.

 

2. Pete Carroll, Seattle Seahawks

Age is just a number and nobody proves that more than Carroll, who despite being the oldest coach in the league (turns 67 on Sept. 15) is still going strong. He’s still one of only a handful to win both a national title and Super Bowl but faces one of his bigger challenges ahead as Seattle goes into a bit of a rebuilding mode in the near future.

 

3. Mike Tomlin, Pittsburgh Steelers

One of the most respected defensive minds in the game and often lauded as a player’s coach, Tomlin (above, right) is still going strong with the Steelers. He’s got six division titles in the rough AFC North to his credit and a Super Bowl ring as well -- all while becoming one of the few who has embraced a wide-open approach on offense.

 

4. Sean Payton, New Orleans Saints

After three straight 7-9 campaigns, Payton guided an incredible turnaround in New Orleans thanks to his embrace of the run game and a bigger emphasis on defense. His draft picks have been better lately as he’s gotten more hands on and the Saints may have been in the Super Bowl again last season if they could tackle a bit better along the sidelines.

 

5. Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles

Winning the Super Bowl in your second season as a head coach is even more impressive considering he was a high school coach just a decade ago. The former NFL backup quarterback has taken an aggressive approach to the game and it’s paid off with a ring and a bright future in Philly.

 

6. Dan Quinn, Atlanta Falcons

Quinn will forever be linked to the second half of Super Bowl LI but even with that dubious loss on his record, it’s been a very special run for the fast-rising coach in Atlanta. At just 47, he already has three career playoff wins and probably is in line for several more soon.

 

7. Mike Zimmer, Minnesota Vikings

Mike ZimmerIt took way too long for Zimmer (right) to get a head coaching gig but he’s more than made the most of it by forming one of the league’s best defenses in Minnesota and providing the franchise with some much-needed consistency. After a 13-3 campaign had the team knocking on the door of the Super Bowl, the Vikings may well be the favorite in the NFC this year.

 

8. Jon Gruden, Oakland Raiders

Despite having a Super Bowl ring, 100 career wins and a massive new contract, there’s still a bit of a mystery surrounding Gruden thanks to spending the past decade in the booth instead of the sidelines. While he’s maintained a deep connection to the game, it remains to be seen how that will play out over the coming years in Oakland and Las Vegas but Raiders fans certainly hope it goes like it did at the beginning of his coaching career instead of the end of his first stint.

 

9. Mike McCarthy, Green Bay Packers

He’s made the playoffs nine times in his 12 seasons in Green Bay and captured six division titles and a Super Bowl ring to boot. Packers fans certainly have their issues with him at times but he’s formed an incredible tandem with Aaron Rodgers and has developed a ton of talent from the draft.

 

10. Ron Rivera, Carolina Panthers

Riverboat Ron has had some downs during his tenure in Carolina but the highs he’s taken the franchise to speak for themselves, including a Super Bowl appearance and three playoff wins in a total of four postseason trips. The former Chicago Bears linebacker understands defense but it’s the Panthers’ offensive changes this year that may hold the key to his future in Charlotte.

 

11. Andy Reid, Kansas City Chiefs

Incredibly, this is Reid’s second decade as a head coach in the NFL and you don’t survive that long without having a lot of success between the lines. Reid’s postseason record and issues with the clock are well documented but he’s hardly been stodgy when it comes to innovating on offense. Perhaps most impressive is his budding coaching tree, which touches seven other teams’ head coaches.

 

12. Sean McVay, Los Angeles Rams

The youngest head coach in league history has wasted no time in leaving his mark on the game and could move up this list quickly with some more success in L.A. over the coming years. He won Coach of the Year honors in 2017 as a rookie and seems primed for big things with a loaded Rams squad.

 

13. John Harbaugh, Baltimore Ravens

Harbaugh has been with the franchise for what seems like forever and is now the team’s all-time winningest head coach. He has that Super Bowl win over his brother back in 2012 but has slipped in recent years with just one playoff appearance in the last five seasons.

 

14. Doug Marrone, Jacksonville Jaguars

Marrone helped turn the Jaguars into one of the biggest storylines in the NFL last year with a division title and close loss to the Patriots in the AFC title game. After doing a solid job in Buffalo, it appears he’s Tom Coughlin’s guy going forward in Jacksonville by playing to the team’s strengths.

 

15. Kyle Shanahan, San Francisco 49ers

Kyle ShanahanShanahan (right) has been a part of some of the best offenses in the league the past few years and had a very successful debut with the 49ers, guiding them to an incredible second half surge with a young QB. Now there’s talk of San Francisco being a potential NFC contender and a lot of that has to do with their fast-rising head coach.

 

16. Bill O’Brien, Houston Texans

Injuries and QB issues have been a plague on O’Brien’s tenure in Houston but he’s still managed to win nine games three out of four seasons and make a pair of playoff appearances. He’s taken more control of the team this offseason and will need to get over the hump soon with this roster.

 

17. Jason Garrett, Dallas Cowboys

Given the pressures of working for Jerry Jones and helming the Cowboys, Garrett making it to nine seasons with the club as head coach is rather impressive. Still, for as good a job as he’s done with the offensive line and the budding young stars in the backfield, there’s only been one playoff win to show for it and just three of the eight seasons over .500.

 

 

18. Jay Gruden, Washington Redskins

Gruden is the first head coach owner Dan Snyder has ever given a second contract to, which probably says more about the franchise than the coach himself. While it’s been a solid tenure that has included a NFC East title and playoff appearance, there remain plenty of question marks about Washington going forward.

 

19. Adam Gase, Miami Dolphins

Gase was responsible for an impressive turnaround in 2016 with the Dolphins to reach the postseason but '17 was much more of a regression to the mean for the franchise with things going haywire on a number of fronts. We’ll see whether Gase can reverse what happened and go back to trending upwards as a head coach early enough this season.

 

20. Sean McDermott, Buffalo Bills

McDermott wasn’t well known to many outside league circles but he quickly left a mark in Buffalo by guiding the team to their first playoff appearance in 18 years. Getting back again will be a challenge but the veteran coach is building things the right way with the Bills.

 

21. Anthony Lynn, Los Angeles Chargers

Lynn not only had to deal with being a rookie head coach in the NFL last season but also had to sort out the Chargers moving from San Diego to Los Angeles and playing in a soccer stadium while doing so. He managed to keep his head above water and could be primed for bigger things going forward after getting experience under his belt.

 

22. Todd Bowles, New York Jets

Bowles has only won 10 games the past two seasons, just as many as he did in Year 2 in New York. While that might not sound great, the fact that he was able to even win that many despite one of the worst rosters in the league is still fairly impressive.

 

23. Pat Shurmur, New York Giants

Given how things have gone in Cleveland after he left, those nine wins over two years during his first stint as head coach should probably be a pretty big positive for Shurmur’s coaching acumen. He did well as offensive coordinator with the Eagles and Vikings but faces big expectations in the Big Apple.

 

24. Frank Reich, Indianapolis Colts

A longtime backup quarterback who turned in his fair share of comebacks, Reich grinded away as an assistant for nearly a decade before finally getting the opportunity to return to Indianapolis as head coach after the bizarre Josh McDaniels situation. We’ll see just where he takes the Colts early in his tenure but one thing’s for certain: he’ll be a much better coach (and higher on this list) if Andrew Luck is healthy.

 

25. Matt Patricia, Detroit Lions

His tenure in Detroit has started off rocky but the longtime Patriots defensive coordinator wouldn’t have gone just anywhere to begin his head coaching career. He’ll need every bit of those rocket science smarts to get the Lions back into contention on a more consistent basis.

 

26. Steve Wilks, Arizona Cardinals

Wilks has been all over the country as an assistant and was a hot commodity as a head coach this offseason given his track record on defense and being a steady voice in the locker room. He’s got a good chance to move up quickly on this list given the wealth of talent he inherits in the desert.

 

27. Mike Vrabel, Tennessee Titans

Vrabel has transitioned from former Super Bowl-winning player to head coach in a rapid amount of time. You know he can connect well to players given how good of a recruiter he was at Ohio State and it didn’t take him long to rise to be a defensive coordinator in the league. The learning curve might be steep but there’s a lot of upside with Vrabel in Tennessee.

 

28. Matt Nagy, Chicago Bears

The Andy Reid protege was a bit of an unknown before he was plucked by the Bears to lead the franchise but he’s been a big part of introducing a ton of creative concepts to the league. The former Arena League QB is hoping to have a big impact with a budding young offensive core in the Windy City.

 

29. Marvin Lewis, Cincinnati Bengals

The second-longest tenured head coach in the NFL was a surprise to return in 2018 after another sub-par season in Cincinnati. The 0-7 playoff record speaks volumes and is a big reason why Bengals fans want some new blood running the team.

 

30. Dirk Koetter, Tampa Bay Bucs

There’s was a lot of optimism surrounding the Bucs being an offensive juggernaut coming off a 9-7 debut campaign for Koetter but that never materialized. Now the seat is quite hot for a head coach dealing with issues on both sides of the ball heading into the season.

 

31. Vance Joseph, Denver Broncos

Joseph nearly went one-and-done as a head coach with the Broncos last year thanks in part to plenty of blowouts during the team's discouraging eight-game losing streak after their bye week. We’ll see if he can live and learn after such a rocky start in Denver.

 

32. Hue Jackson, Cleveland Browns

While there’s confidence from some that Jackson can lead the Browns out of the gutter, 1-31 as a head coach with the team is still 1-31.

 

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Either way how can anyone seriously have Raiders Gruden at #8?

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6 minutes ago, falcons007 said:

With the roster he inherited, he should have had 2-3 SB.

BS. Pittsburgh has the misfortune of getting beaten up by the Ravens twice a year while New England waltzes to a division title with NO legitimate competition. 

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2 minutes ago, Vandy said:

Tomlin’s been a terrible coach for years now in Pittsburgh. Dysfunctional locker rooms are always a reflection of the coaching. 

 

Tomlin is a really good coach

 

Just not a good player's coach. His flaw is not being able to control egos on his roster. But he's been really good having to replace Bill Cowher. 

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I like Tomlin a lot and always have. I also ha e a deep respect for Zimmer in Minny. I tend to like the old school coach who is a smash mouth kind of coach. He beats you by beating your *** into a pulp!

I have less respect for coaches that try to win by tricking you.

I prefer lining up and knocking someone’s d**k in the dirt, so to speak.

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9 minutes ago, falcons007 said:

With the roster he inherited, he should have had 2-3 SB.

 

Well, Cowher only won 1 SB with that roster as well.

 

Been so much turnover on the Steelers since then. Ben is probably the only player from the Cowher era still on the team and Tomlin still has pretty much kept them contenders for most of his seasons there.

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6 minutes ago, Emmitt said:

I like Tomlin a lot and always have. I also ha e a deep respect for Zimmer in Minny. I tend to like the old school coach who is a smash mouth kind of coach. He beats you by beating your *** into a pulp!

I have less respect for coaches that try to win by tricking you.

I prefer lining up and knocking someone’s d**k in the dirt, so to speak.

I said at the time that the worst thing about the Petrino fiasco was we threw the baby out with the bathwater. The baby being Zimmer. He coaches defense the way I believe it should be coached. So does Tomlin for that matter.

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56 minutes ago, since68andcounting said:

So there's all these rumors and noise about Tomlin getting the boot in Pittsburgh. I doubt it, because the Rooneys have proven to stick with coaches for the long haul and it's worked out for them. You can't argue with the six silver footballs.

HOWEVER...if he is fired and I was AB I'd be on the phone in about 1/2 second. Coaches like that don't come around very often.

Bullchit on that!!!   One of my favorite coaches in the NFL period!

That would be insane & I lend no credibility to even the thought of it.

He’d be snapped up in a heartbeat by numerous teams.  He’s a fkg awesome coach & leader of men.  I can’t even believe this is even a remote possibility.

 

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1 hour ago, since68andcounting said:

So there's all these rumors and noise about Tomlin getting the boot in Pittsburgh. I doubt it, because the Rooneys have proven to stick with coaches for the long haul and it's worked out for them. You can't argue with the six silver footballs.

HOWEVER...if he is fired and I was AB I'd be on the phone in about 1/2 second. Coaches like that don't come around very often.

Hes NOT going anywhere!

And, even if they donlet him go....he will be HIRED IN LESS THAN 1/2 SECS by Cardinals or some other needy team who will pay him TOP $$ 

We are still contemplating if we have money to pay Grady / Beasley / Sanu ??

 

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2 minutes ago, mattyicefalcon said:

Hes NOT going anywhere!

And, even if they donlet him go....he will be HIRED IN LESS THAN 1/2 SECS by Cardinals or some other needy team who will pay him TOP $$ 

We are still contemplating if we have money to pay Grady / Beasley / Sanu ??

 

Lmao coaches aren't part of the salary cap you clown shoe.

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4 minutes ago, Pacific_Falcon said:

Lmao coaches aren't part of the salary cap you clown shoe.

You dummy! What I meant was our clubs focus is on resigning current players or adding new F.A.

And D.Q is not going anywhere till 2022

So why bother with such lame threads?!! 

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1 hour ago, Vandy said:

Tomlin’s been a terrible coach for years now in Pittsburgh. Dysfunctional locker rooms are always a reflection of the coaching. 

The ONLY dysfunction Tomlin has had to put up with is Ben Rothhamburger going behind his back every year causing disruption and divide on that team . EVERYBODY knows that.  If anything it undermines the power of the headcoach. THATS the same thing that happened in Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers.  Ben ALWAYS is throwing his receivers under the bus and his head coach.  Look. I have my issues with Matt Ryan but his professionalism and loyalty to the team and organization is UNQUESTIONED.  Matt Ryan would NEVER throw a player or his coaches under the bus. NEVER.  Ben on the other hand can't wait to do it.  Heck, he does it ON THE FIELD. Let Ben throw a pick and his gestures and whining are directed at anybody but himself.  Tomlin has won IN SPITE OF BEN.  These are facts...

 

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https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/11/nfl-ben-roethlisberger-james-washington-bad-teammate

 

Ben Roethlisberger seems like an unpleasant teammate. And that’s putting it lightly.

The Steelers QB has spent his entire career throwing teammates under the bus, and he seems to have ramped up his criticism over the last few years. After he criticized both WR James Washington and offensive coordinator Randy Fichtner after a loss to the Broncos, here’s an updated list of Steelers Roethlisberger has publicly called out…

That’s just over the last three seasons.

But don’t worry about what effect his comments will have on the locker room. Roethlisberger says his tenure allows him to be an awful teammate.

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39 minutes ago, slickgadawg said:

The ONLY dysfunction Tomlin has had to put up with is Ben Rothhamburger going behind his back every year causing disruption and divide on that team . EVERYBODY knows that.  If anything it undermines the power of the headcoach. THATS the same thing that happened in Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers.  Ben ALWAYS is throwing his receivers under the bus and his head coach.  Look. I have my issues with Matt Ryan but his professionalism and loyalty to the team and organization is UNQUESTIONED.  Matt Ryan would NEVER throw a player or his coaches under the bus. NEVER.  Ben on the other hand can't wait to do it.  Heck, he does it ON THE FIELD. Let Ben throw a pick and his gestures and whining are directed at anybody but himself.  Tomlin has won IN SPITE OF BEN.  These are facts...

 

Image result for ben roethlisberger interception

 

Image result for ben roethlisberger interception

 

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/11/nfl-ben-roethlisberger-james-washington-bad-teammate

 

Ben Roethlisberger seems like an unpleasant teammate. And that’s putting it lightly.

The Steelers QB has spent his entire career throwing teammates under the bus, and he seems to have ramped up his criticism over the last few years. After he criticized both WR James Washington and offensive coordinator Randy Fichtner after a loss to the Broncos, here’s an updated list of Steelers Roethlisberger has publicly called out…

That’s just over the last three seasons.

But don’t worry about what effect his comments will have on the locker room. Roethlisberger says his tenure allows him to be an awful teammate.

I hear you on Little Ben, but he’s hardly been the only dysfunctional player in that locker room. That team has had a culture of dysfunction for years, which yes starts with the QB but ends with the HC.

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1 hour ago, falcons007 said:

With the roster he inherited, he should have had 2-3 SB.

They definitely have had top tier roster since day 1 he started there. 

Of course, we have that now too. 

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6 minutes ago, Vandy said:

I hear you on Littoe Ben, but he’s hardly been the only dysfunctional person in that locker room. 

Antonio Brown had a little moment with social media in the lockeroom.  Bell holding out for money. Other than that the only dsyfunction is rooted in Ben Rothamburger...

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3 minutes ago, Vandy said:

They definitely have had top tier roster since day 1 he started there. 

Of course, we do too. 

Pittsburgh has a system that never changes. It was in place before Tomlin and will be in place when he leaves.  It just happened to line up with Tomlin's philosophy which is why he was hired. Same as Cowher and Noll.  I hate the Steelers but I respect the system they have in place.  Atlanta on the other hand has been all over the map...:(

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7 minutes ago, slickgadawg said:

Antonio Brown had a little moment with social media in the lockeroom.  Bell holding out for money. Other than that the only dsyfunction is rooted in Ben Rothamburger...

LOL...when there’s Issues with team’s 3 main players it proves there’s an issue. 

 

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