mike teevee 1,810 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, judas yeast said: My point is simple. UGA isn't in the same league as Bama so the comparisons should stop (Bama vs Utah etc) Something is simple about your posts alright... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RandomFan 10,514 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, 95Dawg said: They done and went and pissed Worley off https://ugawire.com/2019/01/02/uga-football-legend-pens-frustration-with-teams-sugar-bowl-performance-leadership/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Tim Worley not mincing his words: Tim Worley is a former Georgia all-American and a first round draft choice of the Steelers. With his wife Dee, he is a co-founder of Worley Global Enterprises, a leadership development and marketing communication consulting firm. At the risk of sounding arrogant and entitled, I’m about to fuss. Yes, it’s about the Sugar Bowl, but I’ll get to that in a minute. Along with everyone else in Dawg Nation, I saw some proverbial fruit on the UGA football tree last night, and the root of that fruit is what I’m compelled to address. But really, I’m fussing. Without apology. And at the risk of sounding arrogant and entitled again, I submit this: I get to say whatever I want. I played the game. As a ‘Dawg… ‘Tween the Hedges.’ There’s something to be said for the perspective of someone who has actually lived in those trenches, and I’m in no mood for pleasantries. I’ve spoken to the UGA football team many, many times – under two different coaches – including Coach Smart. By the way, that’s how he should be addressed. I do not know why it is now acceptable for media to refer to coaches by their first names, but it is not okay. Can you imagine anyone addressing Coach Dooley in a press conference as “Vince?” Or addressing Coach Bryant as “Paul?” This kind of familiarity is one major symptom of what I’ve been saying is a growing problem with amateur and professional football today: there’s no mystery anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah… It’s too late to call me old school. For one, I already know that, and secondly, I’m not bothered by that fact. It’s too late to say things are different now than they were when I was totin’ that rock for the Bulldogs. The wisest dude who ever lived once said, “There’s nothing new under the sun.” Life is cyclical. Everything recycles. This movie is a remake; not an original. So, let the fussing commence. Do your job… You know what else I did? I played in our bowl game when I knew I was declaring for the NFL Draft as a junior. In fact, when I played in the 1989 Gator Bowl against Michigan State – my last game as a Georgia Bulldog – guess who else played in that same game, and declared for the draft days later? First round and the second overall pick, offensive lineman Tony Mandarich and first-round, twenty-second overall pick, Andre Rison (who, by the way, was the Spartans’ MVP with nine receptions for 252 yards.) Don’t @ me about their NFL careers. That’s not the point. The point is, the bowl game I played in had three first-round picks in it. And we didn’t just play in the game. We. Went. At. It. Along with my backfield mate, Rodney Hampton (who was a first-round pick the following year), we flat out battled in that game. And, UGA won by a score of 34-27 in front of 76,000 people. Why? Because we were supposed to play. Because our universities expected us to play. Because our scholarships required us to play. Because we gave our word to our families and to ourselves that, every time we were on the field, we were going to leave everything on it. And equally as importantly as all of those reasons, because our teammates depended on us to play, and we were not going to abandon our brothers. Because every game we played in our school jerseys mattered. Whether UGA’s coaches and players realize it or not, the Sugar Bowl mattered. Quit Smelling Yourself… Now I’ll discuss the bigger issue about last night’s loss to Texas that, frankly, has me concerned. Really concerned. This issue has been adequately addressed by journalists. In this (Dawgnation.com) article, Coach Smart said Texas “wanted it more” and he said, “I hope they learn you better show up to play every game because the teams you’re playing at the end of the year are all capable of topping you.” With all due respect, Coach, “hope” isn’t gonna get it done. You can’t “hope” they get it. You have to makethem get it. That only happens with a no-exceptions culture that is either bought into, or players play somewhere else. You’ve seen it done. As Alabama’s defensive coordinator, you have championship rings proving it can be done….with this generation of athletes. I mean no disrespect, but later for all that “hope” stuff, bruh. I’m not a journalist. I’m a ticked-off member of “Running Back U, and the issue that concerns me is entitled apathy. UGA’s players (and possibly its coaches?) clearly didn’t want to be at the New Orleans last night, and it’s not because they don’t like gumbo. I’m a North Carolina native – and a country boy – so I’m going to say what happened the way we say it in Lumberton: they “threw their suckers in the dirt.” I’m not going to single anyone out, but UGA players were blowing Twitter up during the Clemson-Notre Dame game, lamenting the Playoff Committee’s faulty decision making in choosing the four best teams for the Playoff. And they didn’t hold back. They were brash. Arrogant. Haughty. Loud. And, based on last night’s lackluster performance, UGA players’ bodies were at the Mercedes-Benz Superdome, but their minds were out west in Levi’s Stadium…where they will not be playing, because a team that beat them will be. UGA showed everyone watching (including NFL scouts) that, if they weren’t playing in the Playoff, then they weren’t playing at all. Another country boy saying: Tell the truth and shame the devil. Here’s the truth. UGA players being comfortable with publicly blasting the Playoff Committee is, without question, a leadership failure. Mic. Drop. UGA is at a crossroads. I see an opportunity on the other side of what I hope is a nasty taste left in the mouths of the ‘Dawgs leadership (and when I say leadership, I’m including coaches and players). That opportunity is that somebody gets to step up right now. Not during spring practice – today – and cut entitled apathy off at the pass before it becomes an epidemic. Coach Smart hasn’t asked me to come back and speak to the team since his first year at UGA (and I’m probably dramatically decreasing the odds that he will invite me back now, but that’s fine…sometimes you have to get mad before change can happen), and he hasn’t hired me as a leadership development consultant (yet), but I’m extending some free advice because I know all too well what can happen when an athletes’ character is left unchecked. Keep in mind, I’m assuming someone is going to step up. I’m assuming someone is going to take the word of a former player who is not speaking from a sanctimonious high horse, but instead from the 20/20 hindsight wisdom of a person who took his foot off the character development pedal the second someone in authority at UGA told me I was going to be a millionaire. Consider this as the kind of advice an uncle would give his nephews. Uncle Tim’s wisdom… Compete. Every game. No exceptions. Ever. Win games you’re supposed to win. That means all of them. Enough with the trying hard crap. You’re there to win. Do it. Get off social media before ballgames. Shut your mouth. Shut your mouth. Shut. Your. Mouth. Say what you have to say with sixty minutes of dominate play. Stop whining about where you’re not, and commit to where you are. You didn’t make it to the Playoff. You made it to the Sugar Bowl. Your job was to play like your life depended on it…in the Sugar Bowl. January 2, 2019 hurt recruiting. It hurt the futures of those who will declare for the draft. It may not seem like it right away, but the long-term effects could be irreparable. The performance last night sent the wrong message. It encourages the pervasive sentiment that college ball is just a stepping stone to the NFL. This dishonors the integrity of amateur football, diminishes the privilege it is to play next-level ball, disrespects the scholarship/investment the school as made in the player’s education and athletic ability (for those on scholarship), and throws up the middle finger at the responsibility that comes with the privilege of playing NCAA – and, I will with much bias say, especially SEC – football. Take a page from Nick Chubb’s and Sony Michel’s book: big TEAM; little me. This is a photo of an actual shirt we wore when I was at UGA. I strongly suggest the University of Georgia have some made for the 2019 season….just as that wise dude said, “There’s nothing new under the sun.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sdogg 9,792 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Worley is spot on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
95Dawg 5,916 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 hours ago, sdogg said: Worley is spot on. Every player should read his article. I wish Kirby would bring him in today to talk with the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sdogg 9,792 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, 95Dawg said: Every player should read his article. I wish Kirby would bring him in today to talk with the team. He sure should. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaJoe 3,233 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Wow. Worley said that WELL. Sadly, I have little faith that his words, and these types of feelings/thoughts/words... from anyone, will make much of an impact on the players that need this message... this lesson, the most. Hopefully, there are some changes coming, improvements coming, with the Dawgs by next season. Personally, I may get proven wrong... and it'd be great if I were, but I have been feeling for weeks now that I hope Haselwood goes elsewhere because he appears to be a "poster child" for the current 'Elite Talent Player' model coming out of HS in this era. And. I. Do. NOT. Like. It. One. Bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dawggone 1,585 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Well said Mr. Worley. It seems Coach Smart has to decide if he wants to chase greatness with elite talent or work towards greatness with hard working young men willing to pay a price. Another country boy saying, "its time to fish or cut bait" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gritzblitz 2.0 27,106 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 18 hours ago, judas yeast said: Please. Kirby isn't Saban and Georgia ain't Bama. During the last 35 years y'all are closer to South Carolina than you are Bama. I get hit in the head a lot, so I must have forgotten when South Carolina won an SEC championship or played for a national championship. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LawDawg 1,409 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Can we please hire Tim Worley as a coach? Seriously. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gritzblitz 2.0 27,106 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I think that the lesson taken from the other night is going to prove to be more valuable than the outcome of the game itself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
95Dawg 5,916 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Worley for Motivational Speaker and daily A@@ chewing analyst job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaJoe 3,233 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Gritzblitz 2.0 said: I think that the lesson taken from the other night is going to prove to be more valuable than the outcome of the game itself. We can hope so! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SacFalcFan 1,064 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 so are guys done with exaggerating the importance of what is a meaningless bowl loss? i love worley and i agree with a lot of what he said, but this loss won't hurt us in recruiting nor have any longterm negative affect on this program/team. In fact i think this is a bigtime teaching opportunity and a learning experience for these young players as well for Kirby and this staff. People forget Kirby is just in year 3 of being a head coach. He has a lot to learn. Consider the below (saw this tweet): More Interesting. Was just sent to me. Top 4 current coaches who have won a National Championships. Record first 3 years as a HC - Dabo Swinney 25-16 - Jimbo Fisher 30-10 - Urban Meyer 27-8 - Nick Saban 21-13-1 None won a natty during their first 3 years. Kirby Smart 32-9 ****** Kirby is ahead of the game for head coach only in his 3 years. We had a team made up of 68% of sophomores and freshman with a small senior class ( our senior leadership was sorely lacking for most of the year. we missed guys like sony, chubb, bellamy, smith from last year). We will see some leaders emerge and I really think there will be an emphasis on that this offseason. This upcoming team will be the most talented we have had in Athens in a very long time. I am quite excited. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
95Dawg 5,916 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, SacFalcFan said: so are guys done with exaggerating the importance of what is a meaningless bowl loss? i love worley and i agree with a lot of what he said, but this loss won't hurt us in recruiting nor have any longterm negative affect on this program/team. In fact i think this is a bigtime teaching opportunity and a learning experience for these young players as well for Kirby and this staff. People forget Kirby is just in year 3 of being a head coach. He has a lot to learn. Consider the below (saw this tweet): More Interesting. Was just sent to me. Top 4 current coaches who have won a National Championships. Record first 3 years as a HC - Dabo Swinney 25-16 - Jimbo Fisher 30-10 - Urban Meyer 27-8 - Nick Saban 21-13-1 None won a natty during their first 3 years. Kirby Smart 32-9 ****** Kirby is ahead of the game for head coach only in his 3 years. We had a team made up of 68% of sophomores and freshman with a small senior class ( our senior leadership was sorely lacking for most of the year. we missed guys like sony, chubb, bellamy, smith from last year). We will see some leaders emerge and I really think there will be an emphasis on that this offseason. This upcoming team will be the most talented we have had in Athens in a very long time. I am quite excited. Yep the future is bright Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, SacFalcFan said: so are guys done with exaggerating the importance of what is a meaningless bowl loss? If I agree it’s a meaningless bowl game, then I have to excuse the players for not giving af. I won’t do that. UGA supporters paid thousands of hard earned dollars to travel and support their team. If for no other reason, those fans in the stands deserve a team that cares about the game. Edited January 3, 2019 by Falconsin2012 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dawggone 1,585 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 3 hours ago, SacFalcFan said: so are guys done with exaggerating the importance of what is a meaningless bowl loss? In this instance I would have to say to state getting outplayed because you lacked in preparation, heart, and effort in the Sugar Bowl is meaningless would be the definition of an exagerration. I would have to debate the loss in of itself is not the issue. It is how the players prepared and played. I am like you however, ready to move on and discuss the brighter side of life and the potential success we have ahead of us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SacFalcFan 1,064 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Falconsin2012 said: If I agree it’s a meaningless bowl game, then I have to excuse the players for not giving af. I won’t do that. UGA supporters paid thousands of hard earned dollars to travel and support their team. If for no other reason, those fans in the stands deserve a team that cares about the game. you don't have to agree, but that's how our team and others viewed the game.. in fact that is what happened when bama got beat 38 to 17 to utah and lost by double digits to oklahoma.. they were the favored team in both of those matchups and looked disinterested and their players thought they were in a meaningless bowl game. it happens with young teams who has a goal and they just miss out on playing for it all. that is the point that kirby has plenty to use from this game and performance for the entire offseason. when you have 68% sophomores and freshman along with a small senior class that aren't the best of leaders this type of performance will happen. people are blowing this up into a mountain when they shouldn't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaJoe 3,233 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 3 hours ago, SacFalcFan said: you don't have to agree, but that's how our team and others viewed the game.. in fact that is what happened when bama got beat 38 to 17 to utah and lost by double digits to oklahoma.. they were the favored team in both of those matchups and looked disinterested and their players thought they were in a meaningless bowl game. it happens with young teams who has a goal and they just miss out on playing for it all. that is the point that kirby has plenty to use from this game and performance for the entire offseason. when you have 68% sophomores and freshman along with a small senior class that aren't the best of leaders this type of performance will happen. people are blowing this up into a mountain when they shouldn't. True. But they better all learn the lesson(s) from it. And quickly. And learning requires an observable/measurable change in behavior. The Falcons are grown men and they fell flat on their faces for two seasons now after their collective collapse... sure hope the Dawgs mature a lot and 2019 is the next stage of growth and success for UGA football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carter 24,573 Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 Frankly the team has to prove it's no big deal and Kirby still has a lot to prove. He has done a really amazing job so far and he is under tremendous pressure to produce. None of these guys were brought in to embarrass the university on national tv. None of these coaches are paid to mail it in with ANY game. Plenty of lessons to learn from that debacle. Will it happen is now a big question. Prior to that game, I didn't think we were a mentally soft team. Now I do. If things don't break our way and stay our way we fold. That's not a good trait for a team with championship expectations. We don't have strong leadership on this team. Hopefully that develops over the next 8+ months. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AutumnEffect 1,005 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I'm sure this has already been said, but at least Divaad and Stokes played lights out in this game. If there's any silver lining, for me it appears to be that we will survive our biggest losses like Baker and Walker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
007dawg 618 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Devante Wyatt played well also Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Turkeydawg 2,551 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) Completely agree about Wilson, Stokes and Wyatt. We need Lecounte to take a giant step forward, or to be passed by. Excited to see what Anderson is all about after a full year in the S&C program. And the continued development of Azeez and Beal. Would love to see Cox put on enough weight to slide inside. Herring also looked good out there. Edited January 4, 2019 by Turkeydawg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UAB_DAWG 1,085 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 57 minutes ago, Turkeydawg said: Completely agree about Wilson, Stokes and Wyatt. We need Lecounte to take a giant step forward, or to be passed by. Excited to see what Anderson is all about after a full year in the S&C program. And the continued development of Azeez and Beal. Would love to see Cox put on enough weight to slide inside. Herring also looked good out there. Herring looked like a beast. I was afraid he would loose circulation to his arms with how tight those bands were during the game Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sdogg 9,792 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, UAB_DAWG said: Herring looked like a beast. I was afraid he would loose circulation to his arms with how tight those bands were during the game Him, Holyfield and our CB's seemed to be the only ones playing to win. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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