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29 minutes ago, Dawgfanbrock said:

Why would it be a good pr move? Don’t get that at all!

If Kirby thought Justin was intentionally trying to harm the University of Georgia, he would no longer be on team - period.

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7 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

If Kirby thought Justin was intentionally trying to harm the University of Georgia, he would no longer be on team - period.

Or he doesn't place the blame on Justin, rather Justin's camp.

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13 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

If Kirby thought Justin was intentionally trying to harm the University of Georgia, he would no longer be on team - period.

Is that fact or conjecture?

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2 hours ago, LawDawg said:

Though the particularities of each of their situations may be different, their subjective feeling that they can be the man elsewhere is basically the same, regardless of how many years of eligibility they each have left.

I'm just tired of the drama. Fields's impending transfer has been the worst kept secret since it became public 2 days before ESD. The timing of such news, much less the fact that it became public in the first place, is highly suspect. The announcement couldn't have come after ESD? after the Sugar Bowl? after the season? Most kids just decide to transfer and we only hear about it once the decision has been made. In this instance, the announcement of a "possible transfer" was certainly timed to affect our recruiting and his "possible transfer" has been drawn out as if he's a HS recruit making his college decision all over again. Just go already and good luck being the man elsewhere. I can't wait to see Fromm be a serious contender for the Heisman next year.

 

I struggle to understand how a 19 yo kid trying to figure out his future has any control over the media and every UGA site's obsession with the possibility of him transferring.  He can't "just go" for the same reasons the Luke Ford or any other potential transfer can't transfer yet.  The season is not over, there are still pending NFL decisions that will impact depth charts and even coaching changes still to be determined. 

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3 hours ago, slickgadawg said:

This thing still going?  It aint THAT serious.  :lol:

I don't know dude.  Have you ever seen the "Fields camp" and the Russians together.  AT THE SAME TIME. 

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16 minutes ago, UAB_DAWG said:

Is that fact or conjecture?

It’s common sense conjecture.

Last I checked, Kirby is 100% in charge and knows almost everything about everything when it comes to behind the scenes stuff - y’know, things we aren’t privy to.

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The longer this drags out with Fields the more I think he stays. I feel like if he's leaving he'll announce within a day or two 

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2 hours ago, LawDawg said:

Signing Bennett to a scholarship was a reaction to Fields transferring. I don't see how you can rationalize it any other way. Bennett was signed solely for depth because without him, we'd have only one scholarship QB (Mathis) behind Fromm who's about as familiar with the Georgia offense as you and I. Bennett, though certainly not worthy of a Georgia scholarship under most circumstances, at least knows the coaches and the system and has the experience you'd want over a true freshman.

 

Sorry but that doesn’t add up with what is factual. Signing Bennett has more to do with missing on Sanders and other QBs we were recruiting than it does with Fields.

We were trying to sign QB Dillon Gabriel and he wasn’t coming (we offered and he OV’d right before signing day, signed with UCF) and we had also been talking with ASU commit Joey Yellen for a long while. Neither was coming. We flipped Mathis because he became interested when the Fields news broke and he’s a better QB prospect than Plumlee, who we tried to let go of softly with the blueshirt proposal. Mathis had already flipped his commitment like 2 or 3 times in his recruitment so it’s not like we flipped a hard commit. 

Plumlee was not going to be in this class. We still wanted to sign 2 QBs, especially after we didn’t get Sanders and had that spot open.

As for Bennett, I’m glad we got him back because he has a lot of value in camp and practice... I hated that he ever left, but signing him means absolutely nothing regarding Fields. Before we swooped in after Gabriel and Yellen signed elsewhere, Bennett’s offer list was UMass, Kent State, Louisiana, Samford. He was a plan C or D for the 2nd QB we were planning to sign anyway. Why do you think he didn’t sign until later that evening after everyone else we were after had signed?

I don’t see how you connect signing Bennett to anything at all about Justin Fields. If he ever plays in a game before garbage time I will be shocked... he’s just not good. He wasn’t even good in JUCO.

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1 hour ago, Carter said:

Sorry but that doesn’t add up with what is factual. Signing Bennett has more to do with missing on Sanders and other QBs we were recruiting than it does with Fields.

We were trying to sign QB Dillon Gabriel and he wasn’t coming (we offered and he OV’d right before signing day, signed with UCF) and we had also been talking with ASU commit Joey Yellen for a long while. Neither was coming. We flipped Mathis because he became interested when the Fields news broke and he’s a better QB prospect than Plumlee, who we tried to let go of softly with the blueshirt proposal. Mathis had already flipped his commitment like 2 or 3 times in his recruitment so it’s not like we flipped a hard commit. 

Plumlee was not going to be in this class. We still wanted to sign 2 QBs, especially after we didn’t get Sanders and had that spot open.

As for Bennett, I’m glad we got him back because he has a lot of value in camp and practice... I hated that he ever left, but signing him means absolutely nothing regarding Fields. Before we swooped in after Gabriel and Yellen signed elsewhere, Bennett’s offer list was UMass, Kent State, Louisiana, Samford. He was a plan C or D for the 2nd QB we were planning to sign anyway. Why do you think he didn’t sign until later that evening after everyone else we were after had signed?

I don’t see how you connect signing Bennett to anything at all about Justin Fields. If he ever plays in a game before garbage time I will be shocked... he’s just not good. He wasn’t even good in JUCO.

"He was originally committed to Louisiana, then a spot came open with the Bulldogs after Justin Fields’ decision to enter the transfer portal."

https://amp-macon-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.macon.com/sports/college/university-of-georgia/bulldogs-beat/article223742935.html?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQECAFYAQ%3D%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.macon.com%2Fsports%2Fcollege%2Funiversity-of-georgia%2Fbulldogs-beat%2Farticle223742935.html

According to one writer at least, it appears there's a direct relationship between Fields's "possible" transfer and Georgia's scramble to sign Bennett.

 

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6 minutes ago, LawDawg said:

How does a player entering the transfer portal (who hasn’t even transferred yet) open up a spot for someone? Maybe Bennett got Gibbs spot. 

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4 hours ago, g-dawg said:

“Fields family leaked transfer story to hurt UGA and their recruiting.”

Kirby - “We would like Justin to stay and I told him ‘Yes’ when he asked if he could stay with team and go/play in Sugar Bowl.”

 

Now ask yourself,  “Does that make sense?  Do those two go together?”

One is a statement by Kirby and other is pure conjecture.  If Kirby believed Justin Fields camp was purposely trying to hurt the football program, why would he be allowed to remain with the team?  

BECAUSE WE DONT HAVE ANOTHER QB DUDE 

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Just now, Yo_Lover said:

BECAUSE WE DONT HAVE ANOTHER QB DUDE 

come on now we have downing.. hahahaha.. 

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Good article from Chip Towers today about the QB situation:

Georgia Bulldogs’ offense has flourished despite potentially divisive QB controversy

Posted 4 hours ago
 

NEW ORLEANS — Jake Fromm and Justin Fields aren’t buddies. Let’s go ahead and get that out the way. They don’t hate each other or anything like that. But they don’t hang out away from Georgia’s football complex and they don’t text back-and-forth on their off days.

If you were selecting a relationship option for them on Facebook, theirs would fall under “it’s complicated.” Primarily,  it’s strictly business.

I share that with you because it’s my intention today to speak the truth on Georgia’s quarterback situation, not spin. The Bulldogs would have you believe Fromm and Fields are best buddies and everything is hunky-dory in the quarterback meeting room. It’s not. That’s obvious just by the fact that Fields is now exploring a transfer.

Fromm and Fields have, of course, waged an intense competition at the quarterback position that dates back to last January when the 5-star recruiting prospect Fields entered UGA as an early enrollee. That’s right about the time Fromm was leading the Bulldogs into overtime against Alabama in the National Championship Game.

Eleven months later, it’s safe to say that Fromm has won that competition, free and clear. That’s evidenced by the fact his snaps have gone up from the beginning of the season and Fields’ have gone down. And, of course, by Fields’ name being enter into the NCAA’s “transfer portal” 13 days ago.

In the meantime, Fields remains with the Bulldogs, continues to fill the role of backup quarterback and is in Georgia’s offensive plans for Tuesday’s Sugar Bowl matchup against No. 15 Texas. Allegedly.

Talk about awkward.

Offensive coordinator Jim Chaney touched on the subject of tension when he met with reporters for the second time this season at a Sugar Bowl press conference Sunday morning at the Downtown Marriott Convention Center.

“I think every room has competitive spirit to it,” he said Georgia’s quarterback meeting room. “You want them to be able to get along and understand and respect their teammates, which I think routinely they do. But that position, there’s only one of them walking out there on the field. So you can always feel that a little bit. That comes with it.”

At no time was the tension more intense than Week 8 of the season. That was after Georgia made its ill-fated trip to Baton Rouge to take on LSU. You’ll recall that the Bulldogs, ranked No. 2 at the time, lost to the 13th-ranked Tigers 36-16.

You might also recall that Fromm turned in the worst performance of his career that day (16 of 34 passing, 209 yards, 1 TD, 2 interceptions). Meanwhile, Fields played five plays. He had one run for three yards and four handoffs.

After that game came a lot of grousing, and not just about the quarterbacks. Offensive players — and their parents — complained about their number of touches. Back in Athens, Fields’ parents reportedly met with coach Kirby Smart.

Smart himself was the target of criticism that week, both for not inserting Fields when Fromm was struggling and for an ill-fated and poorly-conceived fake field goal that contributed Georgia’s demise.

But Smart’s response to the offensive complaints wasn’t necessarily what was expected. After the bye week, Fromm took every snap of the game against Florida. Georgia also pared down its rotations in the backfield and at wide receiver. Fromm went 17-of-24 passing for 240 yards and 3 touchdowns and the Bulldogs piled up 429 yards offense on the way to a 36-17 win.

And so it went thereafter. The Bulldogs averaged 41.6 points the rest of the way and clinched the SEC’s Eastern Division championship.

“We definitely came together as a team,” Fromm said of the days following the LSU game. “We had a players-only team meeting. Guys spoke their minds; I spoke my mind. I think the biggest part of that was ‘let’s go to work,’ and I think guys bought into that. That’s what we did during the bye week and that’s what we’ve intended to do every week since then.”

This is where Georgia needs to be commended. The Bulldogs’ didn’t let the season slide off the rails at that point. Smart didn’t let parents’ and players’ complaints sway his opinion on what was best for the team.

More importantly, Georgia’s locker room stayed united. There is nothing that can be more divisive to a team than a quarterback controversy. The Bulldogs contend the competition between Fromm and Fields has been anything but.

“I think the fan base tried to make it that way, but it’s not internally with the team, not at all,” sophomore running back D’Andre Swift said. “We have two great quarterbacks and they both understand the roles that they have to play. Either one when called in knows their job and knows what they’re supposed to do. So, they’re ready when they get called.”

Said junior running back Elijah Holyfield: “I think if anything it has brought us closer together. We’re all good friends and we want to see everybody do well. So any time we can play more players we’re always happy about that. As long as it works, you know? We don’t care when Jake’s in or when Justin’s in. We just want to win.”

It really is remarkable what Georgia has done on offense this season, especially considering that it was accomplished after losing its four best players to the NFL  in Nick Chubb, Sony Michel, Isaiah Wynn and Javon Wims. The Bulldogs led the SEC in rushing (251.6 yards per game), were second to Alabama in scoring (39.2 ppg) and third in total offense (478.8 ypg).

“When you’re clicking around that 40‑points-a-game mark, you feel like you’re doing okay,” Chaney cracked.

As for Fromm, he has quietly put together one of the best seasons ever by a Georgia quarterback. His completion percentage of 68.4 and pass efficiency rating of 175.8 will both go down as school records unless they suffer a significant drop from what would have to be a horrific outing against Texas on Tuesday.

Here’s another impressive set of numbers for Fromm: A win over the Longhorns will make him 25-4 as Georgia’s quarterback of record (he did not start but played all but three series of the first game of his career).

We’re left to wonder whether Fromm’s performance was enhanced by the mere presence of Fields.

“Well, I definitely think competition anywhere is going to make you play better,” Fromm said. “Also, for me, it doesn’t matter who’s in that room, I’m going to try to be the best I can be, regardless. I’m always striving to be my best and make every throw at practice. But definitely both of us competed and did a great job of making each other show up at practice and want to be the best we could be. It definitely helps.”

The question now is what happens going forward. Smart insists he wants Fields to stay, even though the team has since signed two more quarterbacks and Fields’ family remains back in Atlanta weighing offers from dozens of schools. And Chaney said the Sugar Bowl game plan is no different than it has been all year.

If that’s the case, then Fields will be part of it. Generally, that has meant around a half-dozen snaps, usually only for a single play in any given series.

Fromm has shown he can perform well amid those interruptions. Frankly, we’re still waiting for Fields to perform accordingly.

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https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2019-rose-bowl-game/2018/12/101023/dwayne-haskins-on-conversations-with-justin-fields-you-can-just-see-how-much-he-wants-to-learn

LOS ANGELES – As Georgia freshman Justin Fields contemplates the possibility of transferring, with rumors suggesting that he could ultimately end up at Ohio State, he’s been talking with the man who knows better than anyone else about playing quarterback for Ohio State and soon-to-be head coach Ryan Day.

During his media availability for the Rose Bowl on Saturday, current Ohio State starting quarterback Dwayne Haskins said Fields has been in touch with him, and Haskins has done his best to provide helpful advice.

“He’s waiting on to see what I’m doing. So I don’t know what he’s going to do yet,” Haskins said. “But I try to be as positive and help as many people as I can. So Justin’s going through something right now, and he just wanted me to ask a couple questions and I answered for him, and that’s pretty it.”

Haskins, of course, is still deciding whether he will return to Ohio State for another season or declare for the 2019 NFL draft. If Fields is actually considering becoming a Buckeye, Haskins’ decision could be a huge factor in his decision, since Fields will likely look to transfer to a school where he would have a chance to start right away (though he will have to apply for a hardship waiver to avoid sitting out a year under NCAA rules).

Should Haskins decide to go pro, the door would be open for Fields – the No. 2 overall recruit in the class of 2018, per 247Sports’ composite rankings – to head to Ohio State and, if he gets a hardship waiver, compete to be the Buckeyes’ starting quarterback in 2019. Tate Martell and Matthew Baldwin are also potential starters for the Buckeyes next season, but with Chris Chugunov being the only other scholarship quarterback on Ohio State’s roster, the Buckeyes are expected to pursue a transfer quarterback if Haskins leaves.

Even before Fields started thinking about transferring from Georgia, he and Haskins were already friends. The two worked out together this summer, along with Houston Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson and quarterbacks coach Quincy Avery, and have stayed in communication throughout the season. Fields’ most recent tweet, dated Nov. 19, was a reply to Haskins.

Avery has also been a vocal proponent of Day, saying he would send his own son to play for Day if he was a quarterback.

Haskins doesn’t know what Fields will end up deciding to do, but he does think that any school would lucky to have him.

“He’s a freak of nature. Dude’s like 6-3, 230, rocked up. Like, a freak athlete,” Haskins said of Fields. “But he’s a really great person, too. Worked out with him and Deshaun over the summer, and you can just see how much he wants to learn, and how much he’s willing to commit himself to being great. And he’s a great kid.”

 

Read into Avery's comments what you will: "Coach Day has coached QBs A at the NFL level. Demands his Quarterbacks develop working through progressions, but works with them so they are equipped to do so. Also isn't so dense he thinks he knows everything. Plus he's a good dude." It's almost like he's trying to say something about Chaney or Coley. I feel more strongly than ever that Fields is getting bad advice from this QB coach he thinks is his friend, and that's probably the root of most of this desire to transfer. Coach Day has coached QBs A at the NFL level. Demands his Quarterbacks develop working through progressions, but works with them so they are equipped to do so. Also isn't so dense he thinks he knows everything. Plus he's a good dude

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YES, Fields worked out with this QB coach and DeShaun Watson and Trevor Lawrence together.

Makes sense that Justin would go to Ohio State if the QB Coach and Ryan Day are that close.

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41 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

YES, Fields worked out with this QB coach and DeShaun Watson and Trevor Lawrence together.

Makes sense that Justin would go to Ohio State if the QB Coach and Ryan Day are that close.

Is this what's best for Fields, or Avery?

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On 12/24/2018 at 11:49 AM, g-dawg said:

 The kid has played well in his limited opportunity.  He would have Started for every college team save about 5.  Would be the toast of any of those teams.

Can we talk about this?  

"He (Justin Fields) would have started for every college team save about 5"

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JeffSentell Posts: 

FYI: Sources say Martell is definitely not certain to beat out the current redshirt on the OSU depth chart even if Haskins goes.

Fields or no Fields.

That is what makes Martell’s claims even more interesting.

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16 minutes ago, RandomFan said:
JeffSentell Posts: 

FYI: Sources say Martell is definitely not certain to beat out the current redshirt on the OSU depth chart even if Haskins goes.

Fields or no Fields.

That is what makes Martell’s claims even more interesting.

Well if he can't beat out whoever's currently on the roster then he certainly doesn't want Justin to show.

 

 

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