GABLACKBIRD Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 The next draft will be rich with good corners. The BIG 10 , PAC12 and the SEC have some great athletic ball hawks. We can save a bundle by swapping over now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GABLACKBIRD Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 Oho St, LSU,MISS ST, UTAH, WASHINGTON, PENN ST ANY OTHERS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvinthemartian Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 While I agree we could use another good DB, our priority in FA and the draft needs to be the biggest, meanest, nastiest and best at their position OLs and DLs we can find. Conrad Dobler types. Guys who can be physical and win the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. If we get cute and avoid our most obvious weaknesses AGAIN this year I will be livid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlrfalcon Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I just hope they have the sense to stay in state - Deandre Baker - UGA - possibly mid first round? I would love for them to draft a DE/DT with a top 10 pick and maybe even consider trading next year's #1 (and this year's #2?) for a 2nd 1st round pick to get him. The guy would attract fan support, won the 2018 Jim Thorpe award for top college DB, and shut down half the field to UGA opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlrfalcon Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) The one variable is whether Isaiah Oliver will have a good last 3 games this year to convince the Falcons to dump Alford. If he develops well, Trufant (ain't going nowhere with his cap hit) and Oliver could start next year with Kazee in the nickel spot and hopefully Ricardo and Neal back at the safety spots. If Oliver looks bad, they definitely will have to consider drafting a CB in the 1st round as they cannot afford to live with Alford around for another year and have too easy of an escape given his low cap hit. In either case, though, they might want to draft a CB high to groom to replace Trufant in 2020 or 2021 and just have good depth. Edited December 16, 2018 by jlrfalcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew4719 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 We don’t need more corners we need more pass rush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithful Falcon Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, jlrfalcon said: The one variable is whether Isaiah Oliver will have a good last 3 games this year to convince the Falcons to dump Alford. If he develops well, Trufant (ain't going nowhere with his cap hit) and Oliver could start next year with Kazee in the nickel spot and hopefully Ricardo and Neal back at the safety spots. If Oliver looks bad, they definitely will have to consider drafting a CB in the 1st round as they cannot afford to live with Alford around for another year and have too easy of an escape given his low cap hit. In either case, though, they might want to draft a CB high to groom to replace Trufant in 2020 or 2021 and just have good depth. They may be about to get rid of Alford and Trufant. Oliver is a rookie, and these next 3 games won't really prove anything. He just needs to be coached properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 hours ago, jlrfalcon said: The one variable is whether Isaiah Oliver will have a good last 3 games this year to convince the Falcons to dump Alford. I like Oliver a lot, but I don't think the Alford decision involves him. Worst in the league is worst in the league. He's played the way that makes the decision to cut him easy, which is regrettable since he's been a core player for us for a long time now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood all the way! Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 They better not draft a CB in the first, no matter how the progress is with Oliver. Get studs on the Dline and get a push so we can stick any average corner back there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 BPA. Any position. QB included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 21 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said: BPA. Any position. QB included. There should be one heck of a long snapper available at top of round 1 and we have a hole there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific_Falcon Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 What? I thought I had read multiple times this draft was rubbish at CB. In any case, I believe DL is good so we need to grab a DT and DE at least. We do need at least 1 CB though, I agree with that...just surprised to read that this is a good CB group coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, gazoo said: There should be one heck of a long snapper available at top of round 1 and we have a hole there. A long snapper has never been a BPA except on yours and Dimi's boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 33 minutes ago, Pacific_Falcon said: What? I thought I had read multiple times this draft was rubbish at CB. In any case, I believe DL is good so we need to grab a DT and DE at least. We do need at least 1 CB though, I agree with that...just surprised to read that this is a good CB group coming up. I know Greedy may be there at our first pick, which presents a question if not quandary.we absolutely need a starting DT, but do we cut the bait with Alford, draft Greedy, sign a veteran starting DT in part by some cash from cutting Alford, then trade up into lower part of round one and still get one of the talented DTs left? I believe osiruz threw that out there and quite frankly I’d be ok with that unless TD sees a DT that stands so far above the rest we need to go that way. it looks like the run on OGs won’t wvwn happen until late round 2 or early round 3 anyway. We have no choice but to sign a veteran OG in FA but we need to draft one too. Now, FFS70 wants us take a lon* snapper if that is best but I disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramonezy Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I wouldn't touch CB until we fix our DL... I think the players we have are fine just a bad year without Neal and Rico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Get a pass rush and our corners will look much better. Get a DC who isn't scared to let his corners play more aggressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I am expecting Trufant and Oliver on the edges and Kazee in the slot next year. Still need to add some more you talent to develop Incase Tru doesn’t rebound. And for the love of god let Wilson get some snaps, he could be our best CB this year based on his past performance in small samples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlrfalcon Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 8 hours ago, Faithful Falcon said: They may be about to get rid of Alford and Trufant. Oliver is a rookie, and these next 3 games won't really prove anything. He just needs to be coached properly. 7 hours ago, jidady said: I like Oliver a lot, but I don't think the Alford decision involves him. Worst in the league is worst in the league. He's played the way that makes the decision to cut him easy, which is regrettable since he's been a core player for us for a long time now. These back my point - the Falcons only need a very small sample size (3 games) to show that Oliver is better than the worst (Alford) and is showing upward progress. It would really take very poor games from Oliver (multiple touchdowns, missed tackles, dropped interceptions, penalties called on, etc.) to look like a worse option in the long term than the expensive Alford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconinPA Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, vel said: Get a pass rush and our corners will look much better. Get a DC who isn't scared to let his corners play more aggressive. agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UGABOZ Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Never seen a team like the falcons draft the same positions high all the time, first it was tight ends, then dt's and dends, now we want corners high, we took a guy last year in the 2nd, are we not developing these guys or what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celtiksage Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 8 hours ago, gazoo said: There should be one heck of a long snapper available at top of round 1 and we have a hole there. Noooooo. Only the Bucs would do something like that, and they'd trade up to do it. Wouldn't mind being their trade back partner when they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird3 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 10 hours ago, Faithful Falcon said: They may be about to get rid of Alford and Trufant. Oliver is a rookie, and these next 3 games won't really prove anything. He just needs to be coached properly. Only way Tru gets let go if he's traded. That's when he'll turn into his brother's and be a legit cb smh.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2_legit_2_legit_2_quit Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 11 hours ago, marvinthemartian said: While I agree we could use another good DB, our priority in FA and the draft needs to be the biggest, meanest, nastiest and best at their position OLs and DLs we can find. Conrad Dobler types. Guys who can be physical and win the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. If we get cute and avoid our most obvious weaknesses AGAIN this year I will be livid. Exactly. Best CB in the world can’t help you if your dline is trash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerFalcon8710 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Anyone talking about drafting a CB... IT DONT MATTER HOW GOOD YOU ARE IF YOUR DLINE GIVES A QB 5 seconds to throw... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithful Falcon Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 hours ago, jlrfalcon said: These back my point - the Falcons only need a very small sample size (3 games) to show that Oliver is better than the worst (Alford) and is showing upward progress. It would really take very poor games from Oliver (multiple touchdowns, missed tackles, dropped interceptions, penalties called on, etc.) to look like a worse option in the long term than the expensive Alford. You're picking on Alford alone, so do not try to piggy back off of me with that. Trufant has been garbage for all but 1 season. However, coaching is a problem of them all. Trufant discovered press coverage over the last few weeks, and his play has improved. If we can see it on film, so can the coaches. Too bad that we've lost a bunch of games due to these small things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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