SoCalFalconFan Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I watched this game shaking my head at Green Bay's 35 unanswered points, and thought to myself, "There is no way we win this game, even with Free, Rico, Keanu, Fusco or Levitre on the squad." This team has devolved into sub-mediocre garbage from the play-calling to the execution on both sides of the ball. The off-season can't come soon enough. So, what are the immediate answers for a team (coaches and players) in this current state? Broad-scope, sweeping changes. I believe DQ keeps his job but the coaching staff will be gutted. Coaches on the hot seat: Steve Sarkisian Marquand Manuel Bryant Young Chris Morgan Kyle Flood Players on the hot seat: Andy Levitre (old and injury prone) Ryan Schrader (has fallen off a cliff) Alex Mack (not on hot seat per se, but needs legitimate competition behind him to push him) Tevin Coleman (struggles could be the fault of the O line but proved he can't carry a team this season) Devonta Freeman (injury prone) Robert Alford (yellow flag magnet, lost his edge) Desmond Trufant (not the same after injuries) Vic Beasley (Too inconsistent) Terrell McClain (Short timer stop gap destined to move on) Bruce Irvin (better start showing why we should keep him) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCFalconfan Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Blow it up. One of the worst coached Falcons teams I've seen in a while. Weak, sloppy and undisciplined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
175_Ranger_Falcon Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, SoCalFalconFan said: I watched this game shaking my head at Green Bay's 35 unanswered points, and thought to myself, "There is no way we win this game, even with Free, Rico, Keanu, Fusco or Levitre on the squad." This team has devolved into sub-mediocre garbage from the play-calling to the execution on both sides of the ball. The off-season can't come soon enough. So, what are the immediate answers for a team (coaches and players) in this current state? Broad-scope, sweeping changes. I believe DQ keeps his job but the coaching staff will be gutted. Coaches on the hot seat: Steve Sarkisian Marquand Manuel Bryant Young Chris Morgan Kyle Flood Players on the hot seat: Andy Levitre (old and injury prone) Ryan Schrader (has fallen off a cliff) Alex Mack (not on hot seat per se, but needs legitimate competition behind him to push him) Tevin Coleman (struggles could be the fault of the O line but proved he can't carry a team this season) Devonta Freeman (injury prone) Robert Alford (yellow flag magnet, lost his edge) Desmond Trufant (not the same after injuries) Vic Beasley (Too inconsistent) Terrell McClain (Short timer stop gap destined to move on) Bruce Irvin (better start showing why we should keep him) Add Matt Bryant to that list. We have to get younger and cheaper at that position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 But injuries injuries injuries Blah Blah Blah yeah no excuses but good luck with that on the Atlanta Falcons Excuse board where it’s no ones fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Fire Sark. Move Manuel back to DBs coach if he wants the job. If not, fire him too. Bryant, Reed, Schraeder, Alford, Bosher, Levitre, Schaub all gone. All those moves free up some money. Go get a high dollar lineman (preferably OT or OG) and draft one high as well (round 1 or 2). Pray hard that Fusco anchors RG. Draft a DL high (round 1 or 2). Signing a high dollar one aint Quinn's and TD's style nor it should be. We MUST hit on all linemen if they are drafed high and in FA. If we do, we are right back to being contenders next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalFalconFan Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, NCFalconfan said: Blow it up. One of the worst coached Falcons teams I've seen in a while. Weak, sloppy and undisciplined. This team actually made me regret purchasing Sunday Ticket this season. I've never felt like that in the past, and we've had some crappy teams over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalFalconFan Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 minute ago, The Don™ said: Fire Sark. Move Manuel back to DBs coach if he wants the job. If not, fire him too. Bryant, Reed, Schraeder, Alford, Bosher, Levitre, Schaub all gone. All those moves free up some money. Go get a high dollar lineman (preferably OT or OG) and draft one high as well (round 1 or 2). Pray hard that Fusco anchors RG. Draft a DL high (round 1 or 2). Signing a high dollar one aint Quinn's and TD's style nor it should be. We MUST hit on all linemen if they are drafed high and in FA. If we do, we are right back to being contenders next year. I really wish we would have held onto Matt LaFleur. That guy would've been a better option at OC than Sark. I'm in agreement on moving on from Schaub too. It wouldn't hurt to draft a young gun QB to push Matt. I'm not saying Matt is playing poorly, but anyone benefits from some good, old healthy competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4dabirds Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) Dan Quinn has to go. I really do not like the idea of the Falcons having to start fresh with a new staff, but you can't go on with the same feeble mentality that this team has now. Dan Quinn does not know how to get it back together, and I don't beleive anything will change come next season. Matt Ryan led teams used to be known for getting back into games and even winning those games at times. Now, they get down, stay down, and look pathetic doing it. Quinn has no answers, can't adjust, and just collapses under the pressure. Should the Falcons continue to waste the talent they have now with a coach who really isn't dynamic? I don't know who you replace Quinn with, but it needs to be someone that has an all out agressive attitude, and that knows how to utlilize the talent to its fullest, and be able to coach through adversity. I'll gladly eat crow if Quinn turns it around next season, but I don't see it happening. Edited December 10, 2018 by 4dabirds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club212 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Injuries are the best excuse to keep the suffering for 1 more year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogueleadersf Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 You forgot the one coach who should have been fired years ago, Armstrong!!!!!,,How this man keeps his job is beyond me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAD597 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I think Quinn is a product of his previous system, He came along with a playbook and can't deviate from it since he can't actually think for himself. I think the whole Coaching staff are frauds that rely on playbook that were handed down from other Coaches and just can't think in dynamic terms with in game adjustments or longer term adjustments when the NFL itself changes. We need a REAL coaching mind that can think and adjust not only during a game but adjust as trends and rules in the NFL change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Injuries started the whole thing. The fact that they couldn't coach themselves out of it is another. They need an influx of new creative thinking on both sides of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PensacolaFalcon Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 19 hours ago, SoCalFalconFan said: Injuries Don't Excuse This Skid Debo has been back the past 2 weeks so we are down Allen and Neal. Kazee has played IMO on par with Allen so really we are down only Neal and the D still is absolute **** and that is all on the coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsH8 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Y’all are hilarious. You want to start over after 1 losing season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsH8 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, PensacolaFalcon said: Debo has been back the past 2 weeks so we are down Allen and Neal. Kazee has played IMO on par with Allen so really we are down only Neal and the D still is absolute **** and that is all on the coaching. Not true. Allen did not allow deep passes the way Kazee has, and Neal is great against the run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogueleadersf Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Ryan2Julio11 said: Y’all are hilarious. You want to start over after 1 losing season. Quinn will NEVER recover from28-3, period,he doesn't have the accumen to do so,he hired an OC with ZERO NFL experience to take over a record setting offense,made Richard Smith a scapegoat on defense and STILL employs Armstrong,we have won what we did INSPITE of him,not because of him,he MUST go,TD as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRUNKuno Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Just now, Ryan2Julio11 said: Not true. Allen did not allow deep passes the way Kazee has, and Neal is great against the run. 8-8 might as well have been a losing season considering we started 6-1. Our great coach showed he couldn’t right the ship. Demoralizing Super Bowl loss in which our great coach displayed awful game management. Last year after our great coach brought in a guy that’s never coached in the nfl a day in his life take over our offense. Looked a mess the entire season. and now this year people want to give our great coach a pass because technically it’s our first losing season and because of injuries. He’s getting too many passes for proving nothing but inadequate coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayAreaBird Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 19 hours ago, SoCalFalconFan said: This team actually made me regret purchasing Sunday Ticket this season. I've never felt like that in the past, and we've had some crappy teams over the years. I cancelled mine after the Cleveland game. Best move I made all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachore Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 33 minutes ago, Ryan2Julio11 said: Y’all are hilarious. You want to start over after 1 losing season. Started 6-1 and finished 8-8. Biggest SB collapse EVER Loses to a backup QB in playoffs. Loses to 2 teams in pathetic fashion the week after they fired their HC. 2-18 when trailing at halftime. Most blow leads in NFL since being hired. 18-19 since the SB51 choke. I can probably name more but I don't really think I need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMT11 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Yeah it's hard to get real on injuries at this point aost every outlet and analyst had falcons top 5 roster in NFL, I hyler analyze falcons and been fan since birth, I though this was the best roster we ever had. Not to mention, we got smacked by a Green Bay team that just lost to zona and had 3 backups in the oline, then lost another during the game. Far too much talent on this team for this performance, even if they are nowhere near as good as we thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronob Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Quote Injuries Don't Excuse This Skid Absolutely true. We were led to think before the season that this was a team that was bound for the post-season. Then the injuries to critical starters began to happen. We were then led to believe that we had adequate depth based on drafting and coaching to remain in contention for a winning season and post-season appearance. That has proven to be flagrantly untrue. Either that, or once the starters went down Quinn and Dimitroff decided it was a lost season, and privately decided to let the season play out with back ups. Might as well have called Joplo Bartu and Paul Worrilow to come back. The collapse this season is completely on Quinn and Dimitroff. Unlike when Smith was here, they're tied at the hip on personnel decisions. And they either both believed they had starting caliber players in reserve for this season and didn't need to make some trades, or they both had an overinflated sense of what this coaching staff is capable of doing with second stringers. That being said, I don't think either of them should be fired this season, but I do think Blank should privately tell them that if they don't have a winning, playoff-bound season next year they'll both be fired. That's sure as heck what I'd do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalFalconFan Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Ryan2Julio11 said: Y’all are hilarious. You want to start over after 1 losing season. Sweeping changes don't equate to starting over. That isn't at all what I'm suggesting. Starting over is new HC, or new GM, or both. New QB... crap like that. I'm suggesting some needed changes to the coaching staff. And yes that probably requires coordinator changes. That, however, isn't starting over. The team itself needs an annual influx of new, young talent. The draft will be imperative and so will FA. I don't see how the Falcons can sit on their hands in FA this off-season, as per their norm. Too many improvements need to be made. The fans who subscribe to your school of thought, that the injuries and one bad season shouldn't cause a reboot is short-sighted, in my opinion. The injuries exposed huge issues on our squad. A troubling lack of quality depth, with Kazee and Oluokon being exceptions. And yes, I did see some improvement in Sark this season, but was it enough of an improvement to warrant keeping him here? Not in my opinion. The other coaches I listed should be gone and upgraded without question, in my estimation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 hours ago, MAD597 said: I think Quinn is a product of his previous system, He came along with a playbook and can't deviate from it since he can't actually think for himself. I think the whole Coaching staff are frauds that rely on playbook that were handed down from other Coaches and just can't think in dynamic terms with in game adjustments or longer term adjustments when the NFL itself changes. We need a REAL coaching mind that can think and adjust not only during a game but adjust as trends and rules in the NFL change. You may have a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Ryan2Julio11 said: Y’all are hilarious. You want to start over after 1 losing season. So when are they hanging the banner for being the only NFC playoff team to make it back to the playoffs last season? That seems to be his greatest accomplishment... other than 28-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesouphead Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 keep in mind guys...if you say injuries don't matter, it also means that draft picks don't really matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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