vel Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 A lot of people take issue with DQ being coy in his pressers and being a "rah rah" coach and think his message has gone stale, etc. Well, he had a presser today that not many around here that make those complaints seem to want to talk about. Here are some tweets from that presser: As you see, he didn't mince his words. At all. From the run defense to the coaches. He's not happy. Don't think he's going to just sit on his hands. He hasn't done that since he's been here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUsualStuff Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Actions will speak louder than words, and those need to be actions that match the gravity of the situation... not just some lip service and token moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I like the honesty. Hes basically put everyone on notice including himself as he knows where the buck stops. These last 4 games will be the last for some of these coaches with the Falcons that's what I'm reading from that tweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyicefalcon Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, kiwifalcon said: I like the honesty. Hes basically put everyone on notice including himself as he knows where the buck stops. These last 4 games will be the last for some of these coaches with the Falcons that's what I'm reading from that tweet. Agree....thats the kind of coach we all want to see. Take onus and make **** happen! Enough of this long lip talk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, mattyicefalcon said: Agree....thats the kind of coach we all want to see. Take onus and make **** happen! Enough of this long lip talk! I kinda get why.He wants to see the guys he brought through succeed.He understands it's a result driven business and here in lies why he's putting these guys under the gun. Balls in there court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putnam6 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Not to be that guy, but it doesnt matter what the fans believe, its what the players believe. Certainly dont think every plater is buying into Quinn's stuff anymore, once it reaches a tipping point he has lost the team. good way to stop it is win the next 4 weeks. 1997 Falcons were like 2-9 but they won those last 5 games and went into 1998 on a high and confident wave. Something like that should be the only thing to save some peoples jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 One thing about DQ is that he doesn't sit on his hands like Smitty that I admire and he will fire a player if he isn't performing. Let's hope we can get a pass rusher, a fierce DT, and 2 really good OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith2001 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) As someone who subjects themselves to every DQ presser, he was DEFINITELY not in his usual cast-no-aspersion self. He was surprisingly frank and used far fewer of the typical DQ one-liners. It's all just words but like I said in another thread, I still have a lot of faith in DQ. He may not be the right coach but not for one second to I question this guy's passion and engagement and we still appear to be a tight-knit team in spite of the poor results. Edited December 6, 2018 by Monolith2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK WATCH Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Like kiwifalcon said ""He understands it's a result driven business and here in lies why he's putting these guys under the gun."" The Not For Long league is actually a ""What have You done for me lately?"" business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysnill1 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 5 hours ago, kiwifalcon said: I kinda get why.He wants to see the guys he brought through succeed.He understands it's a result driven business and here in lies why he's putting these guys under the gun. Balls in there court. agreed. he wants his guys to succeed but at the same time he's holding himself accountable. Arthur would be a fool to get rid of Quinn or Dimitroff at this moment because they can right the ship. the only thing this team lacks is experience. our OC, DC and head coach are limited but the thing is, we may not like it but sometimes a season like this has to happen. sure it didn't go the way we planned but the foundation is there. in all honesty, the addition of Knapp was cool but we need an EXPERIENCED NFL OC running the offense while Matt still has 4 or 5 good years left in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, raysnill1 said: agreed. he wants his guys to succeed but at the same time he's holding himself accountable. Arthur would be a fool to get rid of Quinn or Dimitroff at this moment because they can right the ship. the only thing this team lacks is experience. our OC, DC and head coach are limited but the thing is, we may not like it but sometimes a season like this has to happen. sure it didn't go the way we planned but the foundation is there. in all honesty, the addition of Knapp was cool but we need an EXPERIENCED NFL OC running the offense while Matt still has 4 or 5 good years left in him. Agreed. Sark hire was a head scratcher to me and he's shown some signs but his inexperience shines through a little too much for me. I know Sark is Quinn's guy and I honestly like Sark but he has too many head scratching moments for me. I do not believe Quinn is going to be sitting on his hands this offseason. Maybe not all, but I could see changes at DL coach, ST coach, and OC. I wouldn't be surprised to see Quinn take more of an active role in the defense as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyicefalcon Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 6 hours ago, osiruz said: One thing about DQ is that he doesn't sit on his hands like Smitty that I admire and he will fire a player if he isn't performing. Let's hope we can get a pass rusher, a fierce DT, and 2 really good OL. Keith Armstrong should have been FIRED! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyicefalcon Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Manuel Keith Armstrong Conditioning coach All needs to be FIRED! Sark is not at fault 100% for offensive woes....guys in most plays arr just not executing. Little bit of aggressiveness and creativity will help this offense for sure. FYI = We are only team on League who have not missed FIELD GOALS yet we lost 4-5 games where we scored more field goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMT11 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Gregg Knapp is an experienced NFL oc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 46 minutes ago, DMT11 said: Gregg Knapp is an experienced NFL oc I hate to speculate, but I could easily see Kubiak added to the staff in place of Sark. He was HC with Kyle running the offense in Houston and has been HC with Knapp as his QB coach before (twice). There is familiarity and keeping Knapp at QBC while having Kubiak at OC wouldn't be a crazy shake up. But, I ultimately see us keeping Sark for continuity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 Remember, DQ isn't stubborn when it comes to the roster. He may be stubborn during the season. But he's always made moves in the offseason to address the in season issues. He gave Kyle all leeway on offense year one and doubled down on him year two, but he didn't double down on Mike Person. He went and got Alex Mack. With Sark, year one was shaky so instead of doubling down, he added Knapp to the staff. Don't expect him to just be stagnant. He hasn't shown that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, mattyicefalcon said: Keith Armstrong should have been FIRED! 3 years ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4dabirds Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 31 minutes ago, vel said: I hate to speculate, but I could easily see Kubiak added to the staff in place of Sark. He was HC with Kyle running the offense in Houston and has been HC with Knapp as his QB coach before (twice). There is familiarity and keeping Knapp at QBC while having Kubiak at OC wouldn't be a crazy shake up. But, I ultimately see us keeping Sark for continuity. If Kubiak returns to coaching in any form, then I expect Denver will be where he is going to be. I'd love for him to be here in Atlanta, and maybe we have the offnse that Kubiak prefers, but my gut tells me he's going to be on the sidelines for Denver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, 4dabirds said: If Kubiak returns to coaching in any form, then I expect Denver will be where he is going to be. I'd love for him to be here in Atlanta, and maybe we have the offnse that Kubiak prefers, but my gut tells me he's going to be on the sidelines for Denver. If they fire Musgrave, then yea. But I don't know if they do that. Three OCs in three years? Who knows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Francis Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 11 hours ago, vel said: A lot of people take issue with DQ being coy in his pressers and being a "rah rah" coach and think his message has gone stale, etc. Well, he had a presser today that not many around here that make those complaints seem to want to talk about. Here are some tweets from that presser: As you see, he didn't mince his words. At all. From the run defense to the coaches. He's not happy. Don't think he's going to just sit on his hands. He hasn't done that since he's been here. Good. He needs new coordinators and a new special teams coach. Basically a new staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCFalcon22 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 mmmmmm B Cox or B Young. Which Dline played better under which coach????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMT11 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I mean of course we would all like to have kubiak def upgrade. This is all specualtion, not to mention he he did come here, how long would he stay, I don't know we need linemen to block but we to not keep changing coordiantors ever 3 years as well,. We just have to trust that the front office can dtermine how much of a liability sark is and if it's worth replacing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 3 hours ago, mattyicefalcon said: Manuel Keith Armstrong Conditioning coach All needs to be FIRED! Sark is not at fault 100% for offensive woes....guys in most plays arr just not executing. Little bit of aggressiveness and creativity will help this offense for sure. FYI = We are only team on League who have not missed FIELD GOALS yet we lost 4-5 games where we scored more field goals. I dont personally agree with the conditioning coach if you want him gone because of injuries. We had very good injury luck the two years prior and we were the only team with nobody on IR entering this season. Sometimes crap happens, and people get hurt. Every team has injuries, doesn’t mean it was the conditioning coaches fault. Now if you want him fired because we can’t close out games and you believe that is because of conditioning of the players and they are out of energy and not because of coaches taking their foot off the gas, then I may be able to get on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAD597 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Is he going to fire Manuel and Armstrong and Sark and focus on building both lines to be bigger and stronger? If not he has learned nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 6 hours ago, raysnill1 said: agreed. he wants his guys to succeed but at the same time he's holding himself accountable. Arthur would be a fool to get rid of Quinn or Dimitroff at this moment because they can right the ship. the only thing this team lacks is experience. our OC, DC and head coach are limited but the thing is, we may not like it but sometimes a season like this has to happen. sure it didn't go the way we planned but the foundation is there. in all honesty, the addition of Knapp was cool but we need an EXPERIENCED NFL OC running the offense while Matt still has 4 or 5 good years left in him. Man the offense too me is what I'm disappointed in the most.I believe it's magnified because they've bought in another set of experienced eyes in Knapp and yet we are still seeing alot of inconsistency.I do believe injuries and coaching are all tied together.But for me I have now seen enough of Sark and Knapp to now no these two guys aren't what we'd need going foward. If some how we could grab Kubiak and really knuckle down on some offensive line talent through Draft or FA,the latter I'd prefer I'd feel a lot more comfortable with that in place. The kicker is will DQ have the stones to actually overhaul that side of the ball is the question.DQ has made a mistake and now it's time to right the ship. Kubiak is the perfect replacement in my eyes.WCO experienced and ran a heavy zone blocking scheme in Houston and Baltimore.I also believe Ryan would also benefit from having a guy like that on his side of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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