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Those fans need corrective surgery to their perception. 

 

Falcons are are in the middle of an injury riddled season after b2b seasons with playoff wins and a SB berth. It’s wrong to blame coaching so soon. 

 

Its a knee-jerk reaction & lacks imagination. 

 

Personnel issues due to injury & talent deficiencies have prevented this team from playing to it’s strengths. All the weaknesses are glaringly apparent to opponents and there is no way to mask them right now. There is nothing the coaches can do until they have the players. It’s frustrating for everyone on the team to be pushed to do the impossible, the team game plan & philosophy can’t be followed through right now. 

 

Let’s talk about what adding two NFL starting caliber OG’s would correct:

1. MR2 would be able to climb in the pocket away from talented edge rushers, step up to plant his feet for intermediate & deep throws.

2. Give MR2 time to complete his timing throws, a staple of this offense. 

3. Allow stretch run plays to make it to the edge and gain yards. 

4. Open lanes to rush up the middle consistently, & set up a competent play-action that pulls defenders out of coverage. 

What about a big competent DT to play with Jarrett:

1. LB’s can fly around & edge rushers get more 1on1 matchups. 

2. More sacks & pressures. 

3. Less overcompensating in the secondary leading to penalties & blown coverages. 

Three players would totally change this team. You could get away with adding just one OG & a DT & make this team a contender. Falcons will not win without these corrections.

Coaching is not the issue. 

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I agree, mostly. But it does concern me that other teams get injuries and find a way. Washington, for example. Tampa Bay have had a disastrous season and right now have a better record than us. This team might have the best collection of offensive skill players in the NFL, an expensive O line that doesn't play like it, and in Quinn's 4th year here, still a weak defense. Injuries are certainly part of it, but the pressure is on him next year. 

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2 minutes ago, GhostofGritz said:

I don't think Quinn should go but I believe both coordinators, Armstrong, and all position coaches should be put under intense scrutiny.

You can really tell a person's or organization's true merit when they are under stress. The earlier season injuries put this team in extreme stress. Overall, it didn't respond well at all.

I believe a great deal of that is due to coaching.

Armstrong's firing has been way overdue. He should've been gone 2-3 years ago at this point. 

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17 minutes ago, Dr Boom said:

 

I believe it's both coaching and injuries. This off-season is going to be one of the hardest we've seen because there are no clear cut lines for what was caused by injury, coaching or lack of talent.

If changes are to heavy handed we could be worse. If not enough changes are made, we'll see the same results.

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1 hour ago, Dr Boom said:

Those fans need corrective surgery to their perception. 

 

Falcons are are in the middle of an injury riddled season after b2b seasons with playoff wins and a SB berth. It’s wrong to blame coaching so soon. 

 

Its a knee-jerk reaction & lacks imagination. 

 

Personnel issues due to injury & talent deficiencies have prevented this team from playing to it’s strengths. All the weaknesses are glaringly apparent to opponents and there is no way to mask them right now. There is nothing the coaches can do until they have the players. It’s frustrating for everyone on the team to be pushed to do the impossible, the team game plan & philosophy can’t be followed through right now. 

 

Let’s talk about what adding two NFL starting caliber OG’s would correct:

1. MR2 would be able to climb in the pocket away from talented edge rushers, step up to plant his feet for intermediate & deep throws.

2. Give MR2 time to complete his timing throws, a staple of this offense. 

3. Allow stretch run plays to make it to the edge and gain yards. 

4. Open lanes to rush up the middle consistently, & set up a competent play-action that pulls defenders out of coverage. 

What about a big competent DT to play with Jarrett:

1. LB’s can fly around & edge rushers get more 1on1 matchups. 

2. More sacks & pressures. 

3. Less overcompensating in the secondary leading to penalties & blown coverages. 

Three players would totally change this team. You could get away with adding just one OG & a DT & make this team a contender. Falcons will not win without these corrections.

Coaching is not the issue. 

I got something for ya. No I did not say this. Guess who did?  "we are good with what we have"

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The defense isn't adjusting to anything.

The offense seems to not know what it is doing out there. Why are they wasting time throwing deep against the best deep coverage team in the NFL, while their short game/no huddle moved the ball downfield on the opening drive for points. That's all on the OC/Knapp/Ryan who can't seem to figure out a gameplan and haven't been able to do that since they left DC.

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Whole heartedly disagree. Injuries have affected us, no doubt, but it’s the coaches job to adjust to those losses. And while the injuries have be plentiful, the adjustments have not. I can handle us losing because of injuries. It’s inexcusable to lose because of lack of adjustments. It felt like the Smith regime out there. Constantly trying to force a square peg down a circular hole. 

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Every NFL team has had at least one Olineman miss games.  Some teams have lost more than us but are still playing with passion and winning.  An Oline does not correct the lack of depth (our coaches have 100% control over the personnel), lack of intensity, dropped balls, wrong routes run, poor tackling, refusing to hit, completely whiffing on blocks, constant calling of sweeps when the defense is stacking LB's and safeties outside the tackles waiting for a sweep, pretending to be the Miami dolphins and running wildcat on 3rd and short, pulling your best run stopped DT for an extra pass rusher then getting run on for over 200 yards, not having enough size on the Dline to stop the run, calling plays that are easily recognizable and no different from the plays you ran the week before, refusing to blitz when no pass rush is there, playing 10 yards off the CB's when the opponent only needs 5 yards for a first down, running route concepts with multiple WR's are so close together that one CB can cover three of our guys, running sweeps on second and 10, running shotgun on fourth and inches from the goal line, poor time management, no corrections during the game, running a cover three scheme when your starting strong safety and MLB are out and allowing the other team to hit 5 to 10 yard passes all day instead of changing up the defensive scheme to at least make the other team try something else, abandoning the running game completely, refusing to run any type of inside trap, counter or veer game.....

I think I covered most of the most obvious ones, but if you think that our problems start with personnel you are wrong.  The players we have are put into such an impossible situation every series I'm surprised we have won four games. 

It starts with coaching.  There are no more excuses.  I like Quinn, but he has no capacity to adjust. 

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2 hours ago, Dr Boom said:

Those fans need corrective surgery to their perception. 

 

Falcons are are in the middle of an injury riddled season after b2b seasons with playoff wins and a SB berth. It’s wrong to blame coaching so soon. 

 

Its a knee-jerk reaction & lacks imagination. 

 

Personnel issues due to injury & talent deficiencies have prevented this team from playing to it’s strengths. All the weaknesses are glaringly apparent to opponents and there is no way to mask them right now. There is nothing the coaches can do until they have the players. It’s frustrating for everyone on the team to be pushed to do the impossible, the team game plan & philosophy can’t be followed through right now. 

 

Let’s talk about what adding two NFL starting caliber OG’s would correct:

1. MR2 would be able to climb in the pocket away from talented edge rushers, step up to plant his feet for intermediate & deep throws.

2. Give MR2 time to complete his timing throws, a staple of this offense. 

3. Allow stretch run plays to make it to the edge and gain yards. 

4. Open lanes to rush up the middle consistently, & set up a competent play-action that pulls defenders out of coverage. 

What about a big competent DT to play with Jarrett:

1. LB’s can fly around & edge rushers get more 1on1 matchups. 

2. More sacks & pressures. 

3. Less overcompensating in the secondary leading to penalties & blown coverages. 

Three players would totally change this team. You could get away with adding just one OG & a DT & make this team a contender. Falcons will not win without these corrections.

Coaching is not the issue. 

Many of us said all off season that we needed 2 new OG's.  Why didn't the brain trust figure that out in the offseason?  

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Steve Sarkisian is still an issue. The lack of creativity and adjustments wont be masked by talent in the NFL. Every team has good players. Scheming them open and having balance offensively is going to be key. We didnt have half the injuries last year and we still let Buffalo and Miami hold us to under 20 pts. We still cant win a game in crunch time and we still have issues comverting goalline opportunities. Sark is not NFL ready. 

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3 hours ago, Dr Boom said:

Those fans need corrective surgery to their perception. 

 

Falcons are are in the middle of an injury riddled season after b2b seasons with playoff wins and a SB berth. It’s wrong to blame coaching so soon. 

 

Its a knee-jerk reaction & lacks imagination. 

 

Personnel issues due to injury & talent deficiencies have prevented this team from playing to it’s strengths. All the weaknesses are glaringly apparent to opponents and there is no way to mask them right now. There is nothing the coaches can do until they have the players. It’s frustrating for everyone on the team to be pushed to do the impossible, the team game plan & philosophy can’t be followed through right now. 

 

Let’s talk about what adding two NFL starting caliber OG’s would correct:

1. MR2 would be able to climb in the pocket away from talented edge rushers, step up to plant his feet for intermediate & deep throws.

2. Give MR2 time to complete his timing throws, a staple of this offense. 

3. Allow stretch run plays to make it to the edge and gain yards. 

4. Open lanes to rush up the middle consistently, & set up a competent play-action that pulls defenders out of coverage. 

What about a big competent DT to play with Jarrett:

1. LB’s can fly around & edge rushers get more 1on1 matchups. 

2. More sacks & pressures. 

3. Less overcompensating in the secondary leading to penalties & blown coverages. 

Three players would totally change this team. You could get away with adding just one OG & a DT & make this team a contender. Falcons will not win without these corrections.

Coaching is not the issue. 

The Eagles won the SB without their starting QB...could we?

The Vikes made the playoffs without their starting RB...could we?

The Patriots make the playoffs year in and year out with numerous injuries.

 

With Kazee, we are honestly only down 1S, that blew us the PHI game last year, a RB that many have claimed has an equal on the team, and 2OGs that one was injured at the end of last year when this team put up points on Aaron Donald and Co in playoffs and the other OG didn’t even have the starting spot locked until Wk2?

 

Thats the team that rolled out yesterday...and what did they do?

 

It sure looks like a coach issue to me...and whilevthat opinion may be different than yours, it doesn’t need corrective surgery....

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3 hours ago, Dr Boom said:

Those fans need corrective surgery to their perception. 

 

Falcons are are in the middle of an injury riddled season after b2b seasons with playoff wins and a SB berth. It’s wrong to blame coaching so soon. 

 

Its a knee-jerk reaction & lacks imagination. 

 

Personnel issues due to injury & talent deficiencies have prevented this team from playing to it’s strengths. All the weaknesses are glaringly apparent to opponents and there is no way to mask them right now. There is nothing the coaches can do until they have the players. It’s frustrating for everyone on the team to be pushed to do the impossible, the team game plan & philosophy can’t be followed through right now. 

 

Let’s talk about what adding two NFL starting caliber OG’s would correct:

1. MR2 would be able to climb in the pocket away from talented edge rushers, step up to plant his feet for intermediate & deep throws.

2. Give MR2 time to complete his timing throws, a staple of this offense. 

3. Allow stretch run plays to make it to the edge and gain yards. 

4. Open lanes to rush up the middle consistently, & set up a competent play-action that pulls defenders out of coverage. 

What about a big competent DT to play with Jarrett:

1. LB’s can fly around & edge rushers get more 1on1 matchups. 

2. More sacks & pressures. 

3. Less overcompensating in the secondary leading to penalties & blown coverages. 

Three players would totally change this team. You could get away with adding just one OG & a DT & make this team a contender. Falcons will not win without these corrections.

Coaching is not the issue. 

And that is addressing the true Elephant in the room!

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We need to work toward a team that can do that thing Baltimore did where the quarterback just handed the ball to the man beside him and then that man ran forward for a few yards. Not sure what it's called but it looks like a good way to move the ball forward. Granted, throwing the ball straight up in the air is effective, but that other method seems like it could be helpful too. 

 

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3 hours ago, GhostofGritz said:

I don't think Quinn should go but I believe both coordinators, Armstrong, and all position coaches should be put under intense scrutiny.

You can really tell a person's or organization's true merit when they are under stress. The earlier season injuries put this team in extreme stress. Overall, it didn't respond well at all.

I believe a great deal of that is due to coaching.

Armstrong has really overstayed his welcome, should have been in the streets. 

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I get it and it's a valid argument. Coleman is not a starting back, like so many have thought around here. Freeman's ability to make at least one guy miss and avoid losing yards was unappreciated because it's not sexy. Avoiding a 2 yard loss and turning it into a 1 or 2 yard gain is that hidden yardage that nobody cares about when his back up can rip off a 50 yard run here and there. When you lose that RB in Freeman and both your starting OGs, that lack of rushing ability gets exposed. If we still had Freeman, our OGs would still suck but he'd at least be able to keep us on schedule a little more. You see that to an extent with Ito, but not nearly to what Freeman does. Losing our mediocre OGs and replacing them with back up quality OGs is not a winning recipe. One? Maybe. But both and it gets rough. Yes, we beat the Rams with the back ups. We almost beat the Eagles with them. That's two games. That's not a season. That's how Nick Foles can look good for a playoff run but no other full season in his career. 

As for the defense, losing Debo clearly took the defense's heart. Losing Rico took the defense's brains. Losing Keanu took the defense's toughness. Losing Grady took the defense's spirit. The middle of the field was decimated and made fair game. We get those guys back and healthy in 2019. The upside to this lost season is we know this team is not a 4 win team when healthy. That's a full fact. We finally have cap space to attack FA. The last time we had money, we went and got Mack. Don't think DQ doesn't understand the value in the lines. He's just been restricted in terms of cap and picks. 

 

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